Samsung M8910 Pixon12 preview 1: Firing the first rounds
It's only been a day since we went through the review of Nokia N86 8MP - the first cameraphone with a 28mm wide-anlge lens. And we already have the Samsung Pixon12 on our hands - the first 12 megapixel...
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> In reply to Anonymous @ 2009-06-26 13:30 from nbuyYou mean like Nokia N97 (cough** copying **cough) HTC or Sony Xperia slider QWERTY concept? or Nokia N73 (cough** copying **cough) SE K800 3.2mp camera concept? or ...etc .. want more?
If this is call "copying", then every brands are copying every brands pal. :)
cheers...
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- 2009-06-26 19:53
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A620 is better than 350D! Damn I hope is because of those cheap kit lenses.
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- 2009-06-26 19:09
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> In reply to strid @ 2009-06-26 17:51 from vjXnpixon12 beats the a620 in terms of natural color, the DSLR and the innov8 are the least sharped and as you can see there's a slightly lost details when the picture is too smooth but it performs good overall while the pixon12 had the most sharped picture that resulted in a few over detailed and made it look what i say pixelated. pixon12 wins the vibrant image, a620 wins the perfect sharp image, DSLR wins the focused image. their result varies in different places
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- 2009-06-26 19:00
- MWWm
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I want a "Pixon12 VS Satio" from GSM Arena, but right now the most equilibred phone seems the OmniaHD
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- 2009-06-26 18:56
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- strid
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> In reply to Shinigami @ 2009-06-26 18:04 from 3mypwhat do you mean?
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- 2009-06-26 18:09
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> In reply to strid @ 2009-06-26 17:32 from vjXn"if i were to throw in a prime lens like 50mm, the 350D is many strides ahead of pixon12"
Wow. If you take a $850 camera
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Di...p/B0007QKN22
and $80 lenses
http://www.bobatkins.com/photo...dlenses.html
It completely beats a phone's camera. You opened my eyes, friend. I will definitely be looking at this phone. Its the first phone which is compared directly to a DSLR, not all other phones.
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- 2009-06-26 18:04
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- strid
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in fact, the pixon12 doesn't win the A620. It wins it in terms of resolution but very marginally. In terms of others, the A620 steps ahead.
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- 2009-06-26 17:51
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> In reply to Anonymous @ 2009-06-26 17:22 from MWWmthe pixon12 only wins the a620 very marginally. I'm not here to criticize pixon12 for your info. I did say it was pretty impressive for a phone camera. But still, check again, the pixon12's images are definitely overprocessed. The A620 has less sharpening applied, resulting in a less-processed image. The pixon12 captures the same amount of detail as the 350D as the 350D was using a 18-200 lens. See that? 18-200 lenses are never famous for their image quality, but for convenient's sake instead. So, if i were to throw in a prime lens like 50mm, the 350D is many strides ahead of pixon12.
By the way, i am not talking about colour at all. All the images look good except that the innov8 has slightly lower contrast.
So buddy, check the images again, especially the close-up ones, since pixon12's images isn't really better than the A620's. It is slightly better than the innov8's but more image processing is done and that isn't too good.
Still, i must say the pixon12's image quality is rather impressive for a handphone camera. And i don't really talk about colour since there isn't a great difference between these 4 cameras in terms of colour.
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- 2009-06-26 17:32
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> In reply to strid @ 2009-06-26 13:23 from vjXn"let me change something about what i said.
the pixon12 is indeed many times better than the innov8. I took a closer look and saw less noise and detail smearing, although oversharpening (makes it looks like pixelated) is extremely perceptible. Still, it is not as good as the A620. It is definitely far from the 350D (a good lens will further increase the great difference)."
you really need to check your eyes there buddy, while samsung pixon12 had some over sharpening but the color is more vivid and natural than the digital camera and the DSLR. so sorry but the samsung pixon12 beats the a620 hands down and is not far from the DSLR 350D it's a few merely away to match DSLR. visit an eye doctor
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- 2009-06-26 17:22
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> In reply to Anonymous @ 2009-06-26 17:07 from 3itgsomewhat. They are over processed (see those oversharpening?), and are only marginally better than innov8's. The 2 canons pawn the pixon12 by a lot but this is to be expected.
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- 2009-06-26 17:18
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> In reply to LG insider @ 2009-06-26 13:54 from M{3NWe'll have to wait and see if your telling the truth. If you are then that is some mobile! And could persuade me to change my mind on what phone i'll be getting.
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- 2009-06-26 17:08
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> In reply to Samar INNOV8 user .. @ 2009-06-26 13:35 from tRp3@ SamarINNOV8user
Finally, somebody who talks sense!
I'm sick to death of all these fanboys who are die-heard supporters of one particular brand. This is not football, its not motor racing, it's not even a sport, yet people blindly follow one particular "team" and treat people who don't share their opinion like the enemy. Why?
The sooner people wake up and realise that limiting themselves to only one manufacturer only achieves two things - 1) it deprives them of their basic human right of choice and 2) makes them look like closed-minded fools.
I too use the Innov8 after years of using phones from every major manufacturer out there, and I also work in the industry, and I can honestly say it's the best phone I've ever come across. I abandoned Nokia in the last 90s, soon after they began replacing their solid, durable user-friendly portfolio with plastic, fragile. buggy, uninspired tat, and am uber-impressed with the way Samsung are heading, but like you, would use another manufacturer in a heartbeat if the right phone came along.....
It's quite simple people, maybe theres a war going on with the manufacturers,but that shouldn't become a war between consumers, we should be rejoicing at the amount of choice we have, not squabbling about which is best. So please, either grow up, shut up, Or both!
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- 2009-06-26 17:06
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A comparison with SE C905 would be nice since that is the 8mp photo king at the moment.
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- 2009-06-26 16:49
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> In reply to Anonymous @ 2009-06-26 13:30 from nbuyhahahahaha.......
your claims of Nokia's OLED innovation will die after reading the news.
http://www.oled-info.com/nokia...po-suppliers
please now open your eyes and stop criticising Samsung unnecessarily.
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- 2009-06-26 15:33
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> In reply to Anonymous @ 2009-06-26 13:30 from nbuyExcuse me. If you dont't remember then please see Samsung S8300. It was released much before Nokia's OLED phone. So how can you say samsung copied this?
Also samsung didn't show Pixon in WMC Barcelona as they had a lot to show there already (Like Omnia HD, Beat, S8300). SE had no other major annoncement and just showed a phone that was very early in design stage.
Also why are you contradicting yourself. regards to LED you consider releasing as a measure of initiative and with 12MP you consider announcement :D.
I would love to see your other proofs.
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- 2009-06-26 15:24
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when i tested the pixon12 one week ago on saturday morning it worked fine, but after 3 hours, when other people played with the phone, the software crashed 3 times, when i tried to activate the camera.
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- 2009-06-26 14:50
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> In reply to LG insider @ 2009-06-26 13:54 from M{3Nif the specs provided by you are correct then no one will be effort the phone..not eveb Bill Gates...
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- 2009-06-26 14:35
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Would have been better to compare the camera with the Sony Ericsson Satio.
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- 2009-06-26 13:55
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LG Renoir HD spex:
- 12 Mega pixel camera with 3X optical zoom & 1cm macro.
- Full HD video recording and Slo-Mo @ 300 FPS.
- Real xenon flash + double LED.
- 3.3" OLED WVGA (854X480)
- "Mark Levinson" dual stereo speakers.
- GPS (Garmin) navigation.
- Wifi & DLNA.
- 16 GB internal memory.
- Mini HDMI port.
- 3.5 headphone jack.
- Li-Ion 1500mAh battery.
- Kickstand.
To be announced end of June..
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- 2009-06-26 13:54
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