Somehow this forum has become a competition between the iPhone and the Nokia N95. O.K., answer these questions–you supporters of the N95:
* What is the retail cost of an unlocked N95?
* Is it supported in the US?
* Will it work with all GSM networks without error?
* Why isn't any major US GSM carrier carrrying it? If they did, what would it cost and how long would the contract be?
* How many have been sold to US consumers only? And, why do you think that is?
I've been reading what many of the mindless hobgoblins have been posting about the iPhone. One issue was with regards to the inability to send a mms. So, while sitting at a STARBUCKS within the last hour I tired this: My wife, who has a Samsung D500 on T-Mobile, took a photo and sent it to my AT&T iPhone. Within a minute it arrived. Then, I took the iPhone, shot a photo, and sent it to her T-Mobile phone via the AT&T network. Yep, as expected, "Bling," it arrived to her T-Mobile phone. So, it is possible to send picture messages to and from T-Mobile and AT&T.
What people need to understand is what a mms really is and how it is actually sent. If you know this, you can send a picture message. So, don't be lazy and read your manuals!
"Java is used in banks to run complex financial transactions..."
Java is, in fact, a valid excuse. The bank analogy is nonsense. Banks are not wireless, have their own professional firewall, and are not used in multiple countries on multiple networks!
"Im nt against apple, infact i love all their products except iphone. If they released an iphone with atleast the following 3Mpix cam, cif or vga video recording, 3G, java and add more features 2 d bluetooth, then i wud buy one."
Yes, you are against Apple. The issues you raise are directly against Apple and their valid reasons for doing what they did. What they did is not easy. It's easy to bitch, but not so easy to produce. Security is not easy (Companies use Blackberry and not Windows Mobile for this reason). More requires more (processing power, battery size, network capability, etc.). Simple, in the case of the iPhone, was harder to do.
I have the Blackberry 8800 (with T-Mobile Service) and now an iPhone for fun. The iPhone has more music than my previious unlocked Sony Walkman. The iPhone does most of what I normally do. So, Apple was close to what I needed. There could be a few enhancements–but I give it an 8.0. As for the fun factor...it's really cool.
"So with a 2years contract on AT&t u end up spending $2000. With the current technological advancements at dat time dat kind of money can probably gt u a phone with 15GB+ and 10mpix+ cam."
Regardless, people will spend, on average, a lot on their mobile bill. It it's a savings you want, go to T-Mobile. They have better rates, better customer service, better long-distance rates over-seas, and will give you a one-year contract. They will even unlock your phone without a hastle. But our friend neglected to mention that–didn't he?
If it's technology you want, something will always be better, so you'll never catch up. It's a leap-frog contest and Apple will eventually beat Nokia, then Nokia will beat Sony, Samsung, LG, etc. ad infinitum.
So, if you follow our friends advice, don't get a mobile phone at all and you'll never have the wrong one. ;-)
"The hot girl analogy is right, i totally agree."
Seems like many people didn't go to college. I'd suggest studying and course in fallacies and learn why most arguments against the iPhone (and others) are weak arguments.
Do this: Go and get one. Try it for a month for 36 dollars (plus fees). If you don't like it, take it back. This is the USA...by-the-way! :-)
As for the hot girl analogy: More than 50% of marriages end in divorce and more than 70% of people cheat. But, most girls are not hot. So, try another example please. :-)
People say iPhone is better than N95. I dont see why....The hot girl analogy is right, i totally agree. if u wonna argue that the N95 doesnt have enough memory and it only supports 2GB cards, then u might be wrong there. For the V3x it was said to only support 512mb cards, but when 1GB cards came out, it still worked. 2GB cards are wuts currently out, so thats why they have to say it only supports 2. wuts the point in saying it supports upto 8gb cards if u cant get any yet.
This is for everyone outside america. You dont need to buy this phone at all! I am not against Apple or Macworld its just that this device is too old for our taste.
1: No 3G
2: 2 MP
3: Limited Options
4: Can not install any program
5: Bluetooth can be used just for Headset!
Its just a waste of money seriously, by 6 months this device will be available all around the world and why would you buy it?
I have sony ericsson P990 which is 10 times better than iPhone. People who own P990i and addictive to iphone I've got one suggestion. Install iPhone theme and put a protection layer on the screen and start using your finger to operate. You'll have iPhone with 3G and keyboard and many other options :-)
I think the iphone is really cool with great interface and design. The design is a bit better than n95 but if i was 2 choose between iphone and n95, i'd buy the n95(which i did btw). I'd eventually get bored with just d looks but the features wud keep me goin. Atleast i can install 3rd party apps on my n95(both symbian and java)
Btw why is a big software like apple botherd with security issues tht they ddnt put java capabilities in d iphone.
So with a 2years contract on AT&t u end up spending $2000. With the current technological advancements at dat time dat kind of money can probably gt u a phone with 15GB+ and 10mpix+ cam.
Im nt a se fan but i think w960 is also waay better in terms of features. Atleast its gt 3mpix cam, 8GB, symbian and its touchscreen.
Im nt against apple, infact i love all their products except iphone. If they released an iphone with atleast the following 3Mpix cam, cif or vga video recording, 3G, java and add more features 2 d bluetooth, then i wud buy one.
Its marrying a woman for her great looks, really big boobs and butt and rilly great sex but no personality at all. How long d u think it'll take b4 u gt bores with ha and start cheating.... Think bout it
A real competitor of Nokia and Sony Ericsson, it will absolutely brak their monopoly.t...., but the price should be more lower than the present to make it affordable for more people. ASAD
Defending the indefensible
>> Someone wrote:
>> "This doesn't have MMS capability,"
> That is not 100% true. It can receive an MMS. If
> people understood this feature, they'd know how
> it's possible.
How much true it is then? 99%? 50%? 10%? That reply implies that the functionality is not easily accessible.
>> "NO video capture - ONLY playback,"
> True. But, Apple has approved certain programmers
> to add features. So, it's a matter of time and
> requests for such a feature.
Translation: a feature that you find as default in pretty much any other phone is not available on this phone. Oh yeah, and you will have to pay for it, never mind you get it free in the other phones.
>> "No Keyboard, No spell check,"
> It has both.
Bluetooth does not support an external keyboard, it seems like the phone supports headsets only. If that is the case, well, doh!
>> "No Games,"
> It's a matter of time and requests.
Translation: half assed support for games. All other phones come preloaded with some games and you can download many now, not some indeterminate time in the future.
>> "doesn't support JAVA,"
> That is a security issue. So, get over that.
> Apple fans don't want the woes of Microsoft.
That is the most idiotic thing said on the comment I am replying to. Java has never been a major security issue. Java programs have to run in a thing called a virtual machine, which makes it very difficult to access basic functions in the phone. Java was designed from the ground up with security as one of its main features. Who wrote that comment simply does not know what he is talking about
>> "Can't do Custom ringtones,"
> Those are coming from Apple iin the first update.
Translation: not available. Ringtones. For a phone. No further comment frankly.
Java a security issue? That is the lamest excuse not to include Java.
What nonsense. Java is used in banks to run complex financial transactions and is designed from the ground up to be secure (programs are "sandboxed" which means they can't interact with the operating system in the machine, in this case the phone).
If Java is good for banks it is good for a little tiny phone.
Don't buy this phone from the sharks on eBay!
Most Apple Stores are getting them daily (I went to the Apple Store and got my second today); it's only a few days to have one delivered. Also, the AT&T Stores are starting to get them again.
camera on this phone is bad...it can't zoom and doesn't have video camera
I am an Apple fan, but this phone is not what I expected... it sucks, really!!
OMG!!!!! that is the best phone ever (i think). ive seen the thing on a website.
MAC OS developers should provide users a video recording program that records @ minimum of QVGA @ 30Fps.