MP phone addict, 26 Nov 20093. There is not perfect phone. You are right, there is not. But there is this: BlackBerr... moreI don't know about games but there are a vast number of applications available for Windows Mobile. Forget about the Marketplace for now, it's “virtually” empty. If you just do a search you will find some of the largest repositories.
Anonymous, 26 Nov 2009Well I read a few posts between you and NICK a while ago but since, unlike NICK, I had no inte... moreNick is a ..... just lest leave it at that.
He rubes me the wrong way. Every time he comes on My IQ drops just so i can talk to him in a manner he can understand.
So the talks i have with him no one should take serous.
But that is not what i was taking about. I was asking if you did not also read the post where i also said if you didn’t already have this phone you could wait till the issue is sorted out by HTC.
And you are right; being the first to buy any phone will make you like a beta tester. So the people that can’t deal with that should never buy a phone as soon as it comes out. I wanted this phone right away because i was using the beta of its UI on the HD for a long time and was getting my work done but it was a bit slow. So i could not help myself but to get it as soon as it came out for the speed improvement and the bigger screen. Also selling my HD before the HD2 hit the shelves meant i would have gotten a better price for it rather than waiting on next year to sell it. Used the money from that to help buy this.
Anthony, 26 Nov 2009
1. The sound without the headphones is loud but is not in stereo.
2. No it is not really... more3. There is not perfect phone.
You are right, there is not. But there is this:
BlackBerry (bold) is TO business, bad camera, no touchscreen, but good phone.
iPhone is TO multimedia, BAD BATTERY LIFE (which alone is a deal breaker for me), and that OS is just getting boring already.
I am looking for a phone with the following:
-Good battery life
-Good Application store (no not 100k apps, but at least 10 or 20 I can really use)
-Good looking UI
-Decent Camera (better than the BB's)
-Big touchscreen (yes, I thought it doesn't matter, but it does. I don't need hardware keyboards anymore)
-I can live with some bugs, but the OS needs to be good overall
So it seems the HD2 has all of those things, the only thing I am not sure about is Marketplace. How many apps total? I heard a LOT of them are not free. I don't game very often, but I would like to play a game once in a while.. Are there any? With the hardware it should make an excellent gaming device.
And yes I know about the pink issue, good luck to all of you having that problem!
Anthony, 26 Nov 2009And if you read htc hotfix files they always say only install if you are suffering from the problem.Why does it say so if you can uninsuall it later on?
Anthony, 26 Nov 2009Ok.. I’m not mad at you :-) but was that the only post i made that you read?
And were you one... moreWell I read a few posts between you and NICK a while ago but since, unlike NICK, I had no interest in your mother I wasn't really reading this forum.
Also a lot of the posts seemed to be answering very, very basic questions that I would have expected people to answer for themselves via Google (and most didn't really relate explicitly to this device) which means that there is a very high signal to noise ratio (for me) here. Useful information just gets lost in the noise.
I do have some questions about the device so perhaps I'll post them separately.
I didn’t’ write to HTC because I don’t have the phone and I wasn’t about to buy it yet. The funny thing is that having used DSLRs for many years I know not to buy as soon new hardware comes out because early units often have faults that get fixed later as production goes on. We refer to early adopters as beta testers as a matter of course. They pay the highest price and get the worst units.
Having said that though, due to the extremely short lifecycle of mobile phones these days I was hoping to get one (if I get one) after it had been on the market in the UK for 6-8 weeks and once it was available pretty much everywhere with no backorders.
MRN, 26 Nov 2009So a hardware issue that can unfortunately be fixed by a software patch. That should be the e... moreAnd if you read htc hotfix files they always say only install if you are suffering from the problem.
MRN, 26 Nov 2009So a hardware issue that can unfortunately be fixed by a software patch. That should be the e... moreOne thing you should note: all HTC hotfix so far, if you wanted you could have uninstall it from add/remove programs. The roms are what they made not to be downgraded by the user and even that could have been done when you got the HSPL for your phone.
i think this is the one that will beat iphone..
multi touch? capacitive? JUST WOW!!
i got an iphone, but i think this is even cooler! =)
i really love HTC.. maybe ill get this one this xmas!
Anthony, 26 Nov 2009let me hope that don't happen... i get great pic's with the flashSo a hardware issue that can unfortunately be fixed by a software patch.
That should be the end of all hardware/software confusion.
Also people should check what the patch does before they get it installed on their phones. Particularly people who doesnt have the problem.
Anonymous, 26 Nov 2009Anthony, the information that this was a hardware fault came from people contacting HTC and ge... moreOk.. I’m not mad at you :-) but was that the only post i made that you read?
And were you one of the people that wrote? Because i know i was one. And it went back and forth about 3 times in order for me to get a straight answer out of HTC if it was hardware issue and i should send it back or software and i could wait on a patch. clove give the answer after the first email. HTC ended with “you have 2 options, the first one: you can wait until we launch an update for this model solving its issues or you can send the device to the GWS.”
There is something that HTC has done with its camera for the first time, integrate camera flash.
I'm sure the flash is interferring with the camera causing problems.
Now the people who have bought this device should just pray that HTC doesn't shut the flash feature with their patch/hot fix.
Anthony, 26 Nov 2009Did you disassemble any to know it is not the same?
Did HTC tell you It is hardware or you ... moreAnthony, the information that this was a hardware fault came from people contacting HTC and getting that response just as people are now getting the response that it is a software fault.
I don't know anything about the original HD since I decided not to buy it after trying it.
As for the rest of what you wrote, you seem to have missed that I was responding directly to your reply to me in which you said that it couldn’t be a hardware issue ("Listen to logic... it can’t be hardware if “High Tech” is getting the pink spot all the time."). I even quoted your entire post at the bottom of mine to make what I was responding to clear.
MRN, 26 Nov 2009Software is ones and zeros. If there is a problem with the camera it could be with the camera ... moreright.... and that is what they said they are doing give it time. a patches/programing are not done over night.
it is not even 30 day from when the problem was first reported. you say it is just 1s and 0s. you think that makes it easy?
Software is ones and zeros. If there is a problem with the camera it could be with the camera sensors or the way pics are interpreted by the camera software. Now something that would bother anybody is that HTC has made 5mp cameras before and the OS hasn't changed much. Basically, it seems that there are manufacturing defects in camera sensmrs. If it was a software problem they could have just released a patch.
F01, 26 Nov 2009I also meant to say somewhere in there that this isn't the first phone that HTC have made with... more
Do you know that drivers change from phone to phone that is one of the reasons why you can’t use the rom that was made for one phone model on the other model?
And i know you know... that a bad driver can mess things up to different levels and different roms could have different drivers. and digital cams use drivers that are in the rom.
ed, 26 Nov 2009can you share the link plshttp://rapidshare.com/files/26...lder_R12.zip
download it from your PC
F01, 26 Nov 2009Hmm, perhaps YOU should listen to logic, Anthony and while you're doing that perhaps you could... moreDid you disassemble any to know it is not the same?
Did HTC tell you It is hardware or you read that somewhere? Did you even read it on the official HTC site? Do you believe everything you read anywhere on the net?
I only said It is software because people are identifying the problem by rom number and not S/N batch (all the phones do have the problem)
And after writing HTC and clove which is one of HTC official dealers “where I got the phone” I was told it was a software glitch and I can wait for a hot fix if I like or send it back.
How many roms have you flashed, original from HTC or cooked from XDA? I have done them both many times.
Do you know that when the HD would lock up for 3-5 sec now and again, people said that was hardware problem? Not all the phones had this problem. It was later fixed by HTC with a hotfix. I know this because I was one of the people that had the problem and got the fix on the support page of HTC UK.
Until you open one that is working good and one with the glitch and see the hardware is not the same. You are in the same boat as me. And I’m not talking about owning the phone.
You choose NOT to see where I’m telling people that don’t already have the phone to hold off on buying it till a fix or a recall is announced. Just like you choose to hold one to saying it is hardware without opening one yourself.
What I’m saying to the people that already have the phone is…. don’t jump to conclusions just yet because it could go any which way. Because you could send it back and get a next one just like it. There is no way of knowing till you turn on the phone. There was no rom or IMEI or S/N batch announced by HTC as being the faulty ones.