Cain, 07 Dec 2008First of all, you should learn to listen to people a bit better :) I did not compare A1000 to ... moreThanks for sharing your experience with your A1000.
Sorry for getting out of the topic. As I have emphasized many times through other articles, I can't understand how it took the almighty company, with at least 4 times the sales and R&D resources, took more than 4 years to come out with its first touch screen 3G device, when Moto did it with its A1000 over 4 years ago.
May I ask you something about your A1000. Do you have any problem charging your A1000?
Actually I still have mine in a semi-retired status. I still love the large mon and its touch screen ability. Really great for viewing pictures.
The only reason my A1000 is in semi-retired status (meaning the phone still works...just that it's sitting in my closet!) is because I can't charge my A1000 about 20% of the time...thanks to the "old" Moto charger plug design!
If somebody can help convert the charger plug of my A1000 into mini-USB, I would wouldn't mind to pay US$100! (that's how much I love my A1000)
Cain, 07 Dec 2008First of all, you should learn to listen to people a bit better :) I did not compare A1000 to ... moreAwesome post by Cain. There are different users and different preferences, only thats why there are so many different models and different segment of cell phones. I realized that at forums, the job of senior members is to lay out a clear picture rather than getting involved in silly fights. Also, feel passionate about your set, but not possessive and defensive.
Lets share our experiences and create directions for others, not misdirections :)
Anonymous, 06 Dec 2008My Smartphone is a Multimedevice, i can write loads on my keypad, touchscreen on that old devi... moreFirst of all, you should learn to listen to people a bit better :) I did not compare A1000 to N81, I said it was way better. For me, of course.
No, really... I have no doubt that you need hi speed internet access, program flash content on your phone and play 3D games, and for that N81 is better. But that is for your own needs. All that is of no importance to me. I do heavy typing. A1000 is light years away in that regard. I had a keyboard smartphone before and it was a pain to use for my work. It might be dream for everything else but I need my smartphone for work. Not for internet arguments. So what if it is 5 years old ? It does its job perfectly. You use big words really easy. It crushes, it destroys, but in reality N81 doesn't have a touch screen and A1000 does. And that is everything from my point of view.
One should not force its own opinion on others. As I said before, you should learn to listen to people and their needs. I wanted a device which is superb for typing, and I have it. Now I want a device which is superb for music, and I will get the E8. Money is not a problem to me. I already have 8 phones, 4 of which active, a supercomputer, a laptop, etc. And everything has its purpouse. I could buy your N81, an N95, and Luna and wear them all around my neck. But they would be useless to me. On the other hand I can have better serving devices like A1000 and E8.
My needs are not the same as yours, or as most people go, so I will not force my combination of devices on anyone else. I am glad that you are so happy with your N81, and I would never recomend you one of my phones because you would find something lacking. You would miss some of the features you are used to. Everyone should be aware that you can never have "the best" phone. Even if you had a phone with all possible features it would shy away from the beauty of fashion phones. So at the end of the day we all choose things for our own liking. I came here to ask a precise question about E8 music quality, and I got the answer (special thanks to 100 Moto, jjsoviet and coreSOLO). I don't think that a music phone thread should turn into a smart phone battle.
Cheers mate, don't take phones too seriosly, they are only little things that help us with this and that ;)
Anonymous, 06 Dec 2008LOL! You make me laugh. Your A1000 is an OUTDATED FAILURE! X-D LOL! Its got a poor 208x320 2.9... moreYou are right cain, live and let live. But I dont understand why these N81 owners are so frustrated all the time lol. Ummmm my N81 vs XPS offer is still valid FYI...
Cain, 06 Dec 2008Yep, all nice on paper I agree. But my A1000 has that 2.9 inch touch screen and I can type as ... moreMy Smartphone is a Multimedevice, i can write loads on my keypad, touchscreen on that old device of yours is nothing much. My device despite having a fancy spec sheet STILL performs brilliantly. Ive had it run full Web browsing on GSMArena watchng YouTube videos, having a high quality 3D game running, another web browser, file manager, and Music with no problem, the spec sheet is just an understatement of what a N81 can realy do, and it crushes you old a1000, why did you even try compare? Your device runs 5yearold hardware, i'd rather get a SE P900 or NOKIA 7610 if i want something old and good.
Anonymous, 06 Dec 2008LOL! You make me laugh. Your A1000 is an OUTDATED FAILURE! X-D LOL! Its got a poor 208x320 2.9... moreYep, all nice on paper I agree. But my A1000 has that 2.9 inch touch screen and I can type as many Word pages as I like whem I'm on the move, which would be quite difficult on a classic keyboard. I am a translator, so my smartphone earns money. It is not for showing off or annoying other brand users. There is a big difference with specs for internet bragging, and true life functionality ;)
Cheers mate, live and let live !
Cain, 03 Dec 2008Wow, thanks guys for putting so much effort in detailed explanation. But I was really just won... moreLOL! You make me laugh. Your A1000 is an OUTDATED FAILURE! X-D LOL! Its got a poor 208x320 2.9inch screen, must be one blocky display. How much RAM does that thing have? Like 32MB RAM chip? Your A1000 doesnt even have Wi-Fi OR EDGE, HAHAHA! Does the A1000 even support Flash8 content on its Web browser? I can answer that, NO! Can it play VGA 30FPS h.264 videos? NO! Can it run multiple heavy apps at once? NO! My N81 destroys your old UIQ2.1 old not so smart phone.
Cain, 03 Dec 2008Wow, thanks guys for putting so much effort in detailed explanation. But I was really just won... moreI believe my first para clears your doubts about the music quality. Man i've tested everything against E8 except iPhone, and E8 beats s**t out of everything. Better go to any moto store to get a demo, just bring a good headset with you, ep-630 is a minimum if you wanna get max out of it.
Check out the E8's RMAA graph here on mobile-review.com, its one of the best ones you will ever see...
coreSOLO, 03 Dec 2008Cain, jjsoviet is right. Lemme break up the competition in a few sections and state the winner... moreWow, thanks guys for putting so much effort in detailed explanation. But I was really just wondering about the music quality. It would be stupid to comapare them in total, as they are not same kind of devices. As I said I have several phones, and as a smartphone I use A1000 that beats the living daylights out of N81 in terms of functionality.
Cain, 03 Dec 2008So, E8 is definitely a better choice than N81 ? Just wanted to make things clear...Cain, jjsoviet is right. Lemme break up the competition in a few sections and state the winner in a specific sub-category :
music = E8 (which you are most concerned about)
Unparallel music quality. Apart from all these reviews and RMAA tests on various sites, i've long explored this area on my own. I've got access to almost every phone in market at my workplace (sorry if you are not concerned, just some free time in office lol) and i've tested the best ones using standard set of headphones and same audio files. E8's sound has more warmth and fidelity, i'll rank it THE BEST. 2GB built-in memory, upto 8GB microSDHC support (16GB yet to be confirmed on E8), FastScroll wheel REALLY helps if you have huge collection.
calling = E8
I think CrystalTalk does make a difference here. Though N81 is also not bad.
SMS/keypad = E8
Unfortunately N81's keypad is simply poor and keys are stiff. E8's heptic keypad is a charm to work with and very good for SMSing, though there is a small learning curve. Also iTap completes the words for you.
external speakers = N81
Thanks to its stereo speakers, music and calls on external speakers are better on N81.
media browsing = N81
Willing to browse thru huge collection of pics? Its very easy and exciting in N81.
software support = N81
A software is available for virtually every purpose, helps you to extend functionality.
web browsing/connectivity = N81
WiFi and a large screen makes web browsing better on N81.
camera = N81
Both cam are medicore, miss AutoFocus and are only good for occasional snaps. N81 has a flash though.
price = E8
if you dont like to spend too much.
I've tried to be fair. So in one line, N81 is better as a smartphone. E8 is better as a Music phone and what it does, it does with a bang! simple as that.
PS: guys personal views, please go easy on me :)
Cain, 03 Dec 2008So, E8 is definitely a better choice than N81 ? Just wanted to make things clear...We didn't say that the E8 is the overall better choice than the N81. The N81, being a smart phone, obviously has very good features the E8 lacks. However, when it comes to the music department alone, the E8 defeats the N81 hands down.
coreSOLO, 02 Dec 2008E8 WITH LATEST FIRMWARE IS NOT SLOW AT ALL. But you wanna talk about N81 so... Oh I just re... moreThere are absolutely NO VIRUSES for s60v3 especialy for Feature Pack-1 which N81 has. The last s60"virus" was on s60v2 (6630, 6680 etc. . .) 3years ago, quit living in the past lol. Compare a N81 to E8 is fair, both are for Music, but like a typical Nseries the N81 will have extra features such as Wi-Fi. The N81 does not lag at all, and hardly freezes. ACTUALY since updating to its latest FW it hasnt frozen or rebooted at all, and yet im heavy on it. I run well over 5applications at once with absolutely no lag. The N81 is far better than a E8.
100 Moto, 03 Dec 2008I really don't know any other phone that offers better quality in terms of "music only".So, E8 is definitely a better choice than N81 ? Just wanted to make things clear...
Cain, 02 Dec 2008Hello guys! I was thinking about buying a new phone especially for music purpouses (I have ot... moreI really don't know any other phone that offers better quality in terms of "music only".
jenny, 02 Dec 2008this phone is so ugly!
i dont like it
its like a big brick..Big brick? Initially my wife got this phone due to its slim design.
If E8 is a brick, what do you call phones like N96/HTC Tilt?
jenny, 02 Dec 2008this phone is so ugly! i dont like it its like a big brick..Don't judge before you buy. Try it first.
I was thinking about buying a new phone especially for music purpouses (I have other phones for other business). So what do you think I should get ?