100 Moto, 15 Oct 2008Yes, I'm Chinese, but certainly not in the milk or food industry! Anyway, you will be vis... moreya..i will be visiting HK this coming summer after I grad from Uni, hehe...im hoping that it would drop to mabe around 2500 if possible. 2gb is quite adequate for me cux rite now i think i have less than 1 gb of music in my E6. But i will see cux the only thing that separates the ZN5 to 5800 to me is the video recording and the lack of 3rd party software for ZN5. ill really need to try out the phones for myself. Ive noticed that in www.citylink.com.hk, ZN5 costs around 2700hkd.
i check it camera clerity but it camera clerity is not better
blah, 14 Oct 2008yah..i will be goin to Hk this summer and voice clarity is quite important esp with the noisy ... moreYes, I'm Chinese, but certainly not in the milk or food industry!
Anyway, you will be visiting HK "this" summer? Summer for northern or southern hemisphere? Because by the time you visit HK in summer 2009, prices of Zn5 may drop to....
Currently, not much "water goods" for Zn5 or other Moto products in HK, due to the higher value of the PRC Yuan.
For example, Zn5 is being sold in PRC for USD$470 with a tripod. In HK Zn5 is already "cheap" (due to more competition in the same price range...most who also offer 3G) being sold at USD$383, and in most electronic stores it should come with a 2GB memory card. 8GB card costs about USD$30 in HK right now. (cheap enough?)
100 Moto, 14 Oct 2008Over 90% of the background noise is cancelled. Many users in HK commmented with Crystal Talk,... moreyah..i will be goin to Hk this summer and voice clarity is quite important esp with the noisy people in the background. are you chinese by the way?? is there water pproduct for this phone? if so, wuts its price for water product?
Thank you for the opinon. I'm getting more amd more confused. But I must admit that I'll probably use the gps or the wlan no more than once a week. However, I use my current phone everyday for listening music and I use it for a long time so this 8gb card, which is included in box, will be in use to store my songs and(if the price of the 5800 is about 300euros) will save me some money. I'm much in to entertainment and a multimedia gadget like 5800 sure well be useful for me. The zn5 attracts me most of all with the perfect camera and the stylish hi-tech desing. I take a lot of pictures everytime when go out at night and the xenon flash is realy a big plus.
I own an E6 and W270 both for different purpose.
I previously owned SE W700. I threw it away, since it failed to serve me the basic purpose of delivering high voice calls.
What is the use of walkman when the phone suffers call drops and low voice clarity ?
Ever since I use moto rokr E6 and moto W270 I am a big fan of moto which excels in all including voice clarity / design / song capabilities / decent camera.
I planned to say good bye to my E6 and get ZN5.
To my shock besides stunning features of ZN5, it looked ugly. I am now sticking to my Rokr E6 again.
Of course moto W270 will be with me till it becomes unusable by itself.
Moto what happened to your designing department regarding ZN5 ?
blah, 14 Oct 2008so the crystaltalk feature..does it cancel the back ground noise? meaning like ppl hear ur voi... moreOver 90% of the background noise is cancelled. Many users in HK commmented with Crystal Talk, the other party thinks the Crystal Talk users are at home, when they are actually on the (noisy) streets in Hong Kong.
100 Moto, 14 Oct 2008Everybody has his / her own preferences. I just wanted to point out the fact, while some peop... moreso the crystaltalk feature..does it cancel the back ground noise? meaning like ppl hear ur voice only, nothing else.
blah, 13 Oct 2008my E6 doesnt have this crystaltalk feature and i dont seem to have any problem of call clarity... moreEverybody has his / her own preferences. I just wanted to point out the fact, while some people are looking for almost all other features in a phone, they somehow overlook the most important feature of what a phone should be...the ability to communicate clearly.
Moto phones themselves are well known for providing good voice quality. Only its Crystal Talk can do an even better job. I do have an E6, along with plenty of Moto phones with and without Crystal Talk, (such as Zn5, A1600, Z8, Q9h, V9, V3maxx i-mode, E6, E2, , U9, V6, V3x, E770...plus A835, A1000, E398 sitting in my closet) the other parties can tell the difference if I use a phone with Crystal Talk or not, especially in noisy environment like crowded streets and subway.
If E6 is already getting an A for voice quality over other brands, phones with Crystal Talk would get A+ (if not A++ or more!)
Some people like to sacrifice other features for beter cams. Personally, despite the fact I've an Zn5, I still use it as a phone much much more than a cam, and in 99% of the case, I use my Canon G9 for photos, which I think no phone cam's can match in years to come.
So why did I get the Zn5? Mostly for the fact it supports 8GB external memory (yes I've an 8GB card inside my Zn5 and it works!) with 3.5mm plug. (My A1600 & U9 support 8GB card as well, but neither supports 3.5mm headphones)
And I will use the cam on my Zn5...on the occasion where I'm not allowed to bring my backpack (where my Canon G9 is!)...
the features are great BUT the phone itself is REALLY not an eye candy. It's DOWNRIGHT UGLY!!!!!!!
100 Moto, 13 Oct 2008Clarity of calls isn't a problem? Well, there seems to be some people out there who buys a ... moremy E6 doesnt have this crystaltalk feature and i dont seem to have any problem of call clarity. can still hear pretty clearly only in addition with the background noises. does crystal talk eliminate background noise? i prolly wont look for a phone just to improve upon the call clarity feature. meaning i wont emphasize the factor of call clarity when looking for my next phone. rather i want a phone with better cam, equal or better music quality, better video recording and the ease of installing 3rd party software. the touchscreen can come in handy when i can use its virtual qwerty keyboard or handwriting for Chinese.
blah, 13 Oct 2008yup...cant forget about the CrystalTalk tech but clarity of calls wasnt really any significant... moreClarity of calls isn't a problem?
Well, there seems to be some people out there who buys a phone for every other function "except" call clarity.
Have you tried Crystal Talk, especially in a noisy environment, and then compare to a phone without it?
I am Motorola ZN5 owner. I lazy to unlock but i never dial by accident because the keypad is flat.
When Motorola and Kodak get rumour; they promise about Motorola ZN5 will be fast click. Motorola ZN5 is not smartphone.
sandiegodan, 13 Oct 2008If this phone is in your pocket, can you dial by accident? Or is the keyboard locked until you... moretheres a key lock switch on the side but if u forget to turn on the switch then u can prolly dial by accident.
r0bby, 12 Oct 2008I have the phone and it's a good phone , dont listen to all that say it isnt ... good pictures... moreIf this phone is in your pocket, can you dial by accident? Or is the keyboard locked until you are ready to dial?
100 Moto, 13 Oct 2008Other than the specs on paper, here are some considerations for potential buyers of Zn5 vs. 58... moreyup...cant forget about the CrystalTalk tech but clarity of calls wasnt really any significant problem. 3rd part applications for Linux is quite a hassle to install. Easy to brick cux right now im using the E6 and it uses linux. 5800 should have no problem with 3rd party application since its symbian.