[deleted post]Apple has $34 Billion in cash reserves, the don't have any debt, they could easily pay Nokia licence fees, just like they paid Ericsson and Qualcomm.
Why they didn't pay Nokia is anyone's guess, maybe Nokia got too greedy or maybe Apple isn't using Nokia's technology.
Anyway Apple is making no comment as usual, we won't know anything until it goes to court.
Here's the complaint, it's pretty boring legal stuff
why would someone use iPhone? it totally sucks. bought one. not even 10min of usage it blacked out. the store owner changed a new set. 1 week later it spoilt again. i Give up. i got a new set sold it off and start using HTC. way much better. dont call it iPhone call it iCrash
deep space bar, 25 Oct 2009i guess apple is using the i steal and pay off tactic so they can have rights or a share of it... moreMaybe you should look up a dictionary, you seem to have difficulty understanding basic concepts of law
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See Nokia was found guilty of stealing Qualcomm's technology and had to pay $1.7 billion, so you can say they stole it.
Nokia alleges Apple stole their technology but as it hasn't been decided and evidence hasn't been presented you can't say Apple stole anything off Nokia.
deep space bar, 25 Oct 2009i guess apple is using the i steal and pay off tactic so they can have rights or a share of it... moreThat was a trademark which has nothing whatsoever to do with patents noob.
MS executives were looking at jailtime over fraudulently obtaining Quicktime code for use in Windows, you bet they jumped at the chance to buy their way out with the purchase of $150 mil of Apple stock, which was later sold at a profit.
Why don't you get a clue.
Anyway Apple has licences with Ericsson and Qualcomm, they'd have a good reason for not paying Nokia.
Anonymous, 25 Oct 2009This happen to Apple before, Creative have sue Apple for using creatives invention on Apple's ... morei guess apple is using the i steal and pay off tactic so they can have rights or a share of it or even own it
like the name iphone
iwasn't even the real name of the phone in the first place they named it and then i forgot what company got pissed off cause they had the name and then they paid them off so they can own the name for the phone\
it really looks like america can try to by people or even objects...ect since they think they have all the money
and MacFAgs please give a had the bill gates for making this phone and company possible
cause he had to give money to apple cause they were gonna disappear since no one was buying except for music and digital companies
MS saved apple and then steve went and made pixar and that helped apple as well
so thank disney and microsoft for keeping apple alive you snotty nubs
Anonymous, 25 Oct 2009Apple did pay licence fees to Ericsson and Qualcomm. There must be a good reason they didn'... moreapple knew they wanted to rage war with the mobile beast so they stole and toyed with their own tech to make a phone and piss off nokia cheap with marketing tactics
jaswan23, 25 Oct 2009Apparently yet another corperation has fallen foul of the streak of jelousy tthat ensues in th... moreApple did pay licence fees to Ericsson and Qualcomm.
There must be a good reason they didn't pay Nokia.
jaswan23, 25 Oct 2009Apparently yet another corperation has fallen foul of the streak of jelousy tthat ensues in th... moreServes them right. For their smugness (MAC vs. PC ads). Earth calling Apple. Have your feet touch the ground.
Apparently yet another corperation has fallen foul of the streak of jelousy tthat ensues in the wake of the iphones greatness. Surely it would be cheaper fpr nokia to investigate and find out that apple have in fact, made their own devolpments in gsm technology and are happy sitting back and letting everyone wonder why they havent paid any royalties to these companys that already have a markethold on these patents. yes apple are a global advertising campaign but dammit they make good stuff. i have used an iphone for the last year or so, not becuase its a fad but becuase it is the most versatile, easy to use handset on the market. unlike ythe cumbersome, sotware fault riddled 'n' series that is every popular with the coucnil estate masses of the country. well done nokia, you have proved yet again that your time as mobile overlord is over. roll on the apple revolution!
This happen to Apple before, Creative have sue Apple for using creatives invention on Apple's products. And apple paid about 1billion for that.
haha, u no what fruit lovers (most of 'em) r so pathetic that they will probably say to this-we don't even need GSM,we love our i-phone and we will use it without network cavarage.Lets see how apple suck up to these ;-)
Anonymous, 24 Oct 2009The court dat will most likely be at the end of 2011. "The patents cover wireless data, speec... moreYou said that you are basing your comments from articles that you have read about this matter. Did any of those articles call Apple a thief like you did? It is a law as well that one is innocent until proven guilty. I see your point in saying that you don't need a judge to tell the obvious when let's say your neighbor stole your lawn mover. But you see this case is more complicated than our tools stolen from our households.
Not only that next iPhone will cost 50% more(current 3gs costs up to mad 2000 eur in some parts of europe and up to 1000 dollars outside US) but that Apple will pay over 1 billion to Nokia, which is their 10% of year income for iPhone, arround 50% of Apple income goes to materials for iPhone creating, marketing, payrolls, etc so those 10% of suing charge twist to 20% for iPhones pure income, so next gen iPhone will be late a bit and it's price will be super high. But that's not all, Apple will probably resist to pay to Nokia, that will cause further losses, and now even more, other patent owners will want to get some money too! Apple is surely going to get bite after this, after all, stupid from Apple to not pay patents, stupid from Nokia to sue like that, means, two idiot companies. Nokia makes plastic rocks, Apple makes limited blocks at price of two superb ones. I had iPhone 3g, I sold it. Get HTC or Berry and you'll be even happier, trust me!
oh its so funny how you people are having these little battles in these comments...
More entertaining than facebook....
it is not apple paid but those fanatic appleboys paid for nokia
they bought 1 isheep = paying license for nokia
maybe when nokia wins, isheep cost for almost $1200 per 1 ??
Anonymous, 25 Oct 2009you brought it on yourself foolius your comment was a flame to my moth you cant post such a ri... moreLolololololololol! Half of your words don't match to context, and honestly, you wrote those in rush. You got your adrenaline pumping high that you can't think before you spit out some crap non-connected words. Sit down, now breathe, breathe, now relax, take your pills and jot yourself in bed, take a good sleep, and keep dreaming:) Oh don't cry, your mummy must have changed your diapers lots of times by now. :D
[deleted post]Apparently you know nothing about the busienss world.
These top executives don't exactly sit in the comfort zone forever....they need to report to the shareholders as well.
If sales goes down, shareholders would start to complain and these executives might need to step down.
And since these executives can't make the R&D dept to come out anything similar to iphone, they decided to take on other (cheap) moves.
Yesterday I heard a customer who exchanged his 3rd N97 in a week...never heard so for iphone.