Sad to hear but i'm not surprised. Poor marketing, poor customer service, scant accessories, pricey phones. Those things doesn't really attract buyers. If sony ericsson continue to bleed money, it wont be long before they close doors.
motofan. ir , 23 Jan 2010hi guys
i think se is in bad way just like moto in 2years ago that moto lose his market shar... morethey focus on camera but cant make beter than moto
for example moto zn5 with 5mp fu ck all se 5mp camera phone and easly beat se 8mp phone
look at se xperia luxury phone(just like ugliest phone and stupid) and compare it with moto luxury aura and new aura gold edition > aura is expensive but has good selling cause people know good and bad
se is very good luck that make x1 and satio past year otherwise
they SLUMP down and bankrupt
i think se is in bad way just like moto in 2years ago that moto lose his market sharing but today comeing back very well that you can see
but the se has some problem :
they release one phone and the phone get available for 10-12 next month for example moto release dext and droid and nokia release n900 and se , x2 and x10 ok .
but moto dext and droid get available about 4-5 month past and n900 too
and x2 is available for 2-3week and more expensive than above rival
and x10 is available for 2-3 days just in japan
the other big problem of se is hight mp camera ? they just focus on camera and forget other necessary features
come on this is mobile phone and you dont need 12 mp phone . you need fast cpu and good os and nice design . why se just worked around terrible symbian and dont make android and linux (open source)
iphone3gs- droid- dext- hero- and hd2 are all 5mp (iphone mp)
but today these are best selling around the world
i think se most change Management or change ideology
SE is having improvements. They just cut a huge amount off loss. They said that they won't be expecting profit till Q2.
SE biggest problem is ALL of their phone are very LAG
some phone event have 1 sec of delay/lag!
Anonymous, 22 Jan 2010just because you have an iphone with an old crappy 3.2 megapixel it doesn't make the others wa... moreNot everybody wants a "camera with a phone keyboard", bcoz SE doesn't know how to make PHONES. Their (bar) phones capture so much background noise one's conversation can hardly be heard.
The success of iphone tells a story, which SE didn't seem to learn, is the fact if everything else is good, cam quality maybe the last thing one is looking for.
They need to sort out their reliability issues, and put decent reliable software on them. That would help. Who wants to buy a unreliable phone. ANSWER. NO ONE.
Anonymous, 22 Jan 2010you should check on Siemens SL45i.
it was released 4 years before SE W-series...
:)And Moto started to put 3.5mm jack on its E398/E1 "music" phones...which offer better music quality than SE back then.
Moto E2 also beat the walkman phones of the time. So just bcoz the phone carries the "walkman" name on it, that doesn't mean it offers good music quality...when being compared to other brands.
ryk, 22 Jan 2010Very informative comment there, but not constructive. Anybody here agrees that SE makes excell... moreMake excellent design? Phones like Moto Aura or Vertu have excellent deisgn, and how much profit do they contribute?
If a phone offers good design but overcharging what customers think the phone should worth, customers would not buy them.
Or else, would LACK OF micro-SD card, micro-USB port and 3.5mm jack means GOOD DESIGN?
First i love sony. but i get dissapointed, why no improvement on the software. and pls make appealing design phone. lastly make it affordable. im sure this will make a difference. wait sony when u announce a handset pls be quick releasing in the market. right now m using samsung. and loved it! bye sonyericsson.
elpie, 23 Jan 2010SE phones with good features are just too expensive for a person with an average income to buy... moreYour story reminded me about a friend of mine, who has been an SE fan ever since the GH337/388. He had a W900 which gave him enough nightmare and forced to sell it. He wanted to get the X1 but it was too expensive.
Recently he bought the Asus Liquid and loved it. So no more SE for him.
Is SE still not improve their platform software, not matter how many SE phone is out also not use... SE will keep losing profit by then....
jasdeep, 23 Jan 2010hey u all budies.cant u see there is a word sony in se.just search the net and u wil see, it w... moreNot sure if you're old enough to remember the "Sony" mobile phones. They were good. I bought one Z5/Z18 for my gf (who is my wife right now). A friend of mine was using the J70, and they were good phones.
But ever since "SE", the users above never used one. One of the reasons is the fact SE seems to make "multi-media devices" only...more like PMP, rather than PHONES.
Especially being compared with Motorola, which offers the Crystal Talk technology. Most SE, especially bar, phones capture so much background noise to the point the user's own voice can hardly be heard by the other party, particularly in noisy environment.
SE has three problems:
1.they announce a phone now and released it 8 month later(they are solving this problem:look at x2:3 month x10:3 month vivaz:2 month)
3.SE doesnt make a touch screen mid end phone with android 2-528 mhz cpu-3.5 mm jack-5 MP camera-vga 30 fps video with high quality-3 inch screen-excellent sound quality with the price of 200-250 euro this will be like a bomb
if they solve these 3 problems completely they will sell phones like 2006&2007
I think SE must have phone with gsm-cdma in one phone, because china phone manufacture have launch that phone and achieve a great benefit, specialy on indonesia
jasdeep, 23 Jan 2010hey u all budies.cant u see there is a word sony in se.just search the net and u wil see, it w... morejus 2 correct u on some of sayings od sony's first thsy werent ths first with an hd console cause microsoct announced the 360 in may of 2005 on mtv n released the nov of the same year while the ps3 a yr later n 2 sony announced the worlds first 12mp camera phone it was in concept form came out 9 months after n samsung announced theirs in june n released august so in otherwords samsung was first to the market while sony announced first announcing n showing the product in reality r do different things so get u facts right
Sonyericsson need to sack all their designers and employ new and more appealing to customer desire not because of how they would wanted the phone to be like!
Anonymous, 23 Jan 2010hahahaha. That was a funny one. Loosing money was never improvement. No matter if you lost mor... moreWell they did manage cutting 100 million of loss. So, i don't see how theirs no improvement. Plus, SE mentioned about not expecting profit for this quarter so...