Anonymous, 23 Jul 2010A case completely fixes the problem with the ip4 antennagate. Its advantage over those w... morewhy do they have to deny apples staements?They owe nothing to apple.They know its either one with a bad internal antenna or that apple has those video rigged.I looked in the n97mini users opinions and didnt see anyone complaining of signal loss.
Hmmm.. i'm holding my phone that way, and the signal strenght don't go down.... i think that video is edited with some apple's software ahahahahah
Anonymous, 23 Jul 2010Are u a technician ? That's not an issue unless u build radio station on ur phone, don't keep ... moreA case completely fixes the problem with the ip4 antennagate. Its advantage over those with internal antenna is, with the ip4, you know EXACTLY where the weak spot is. So you can easily avoid it, or like I said, get a case and you will not have the antennagate problem.
All phones have weak spots. Read all their manuals. And, none of them denied Apple's statements. But really, it's not a big deal. Weak spots does not really drop calls unless you're really in an area with really bad reception. It's the media who exaggerated this whole antennagate issue.
Anonymous, 23 Jul 2010That's also another good point. With the ip4, a case would eliminate its weak spot, whil... moreAre u a technician ? That's not an issue unless u build radio station on ur phone, don't keep saying every phone has it, well if u wana put it in that way then all smartphones are 10% to 20% affected by it and the Iphone 4 is 80% affected.
Didn't u see PIRATE's posted video ?! It clearly shows u its a hardware problem and the case does NOT I repeat does NOT completely fix it, it decreases the problem.
Stuntman, 22 Jul 2010@Tech Thanks for your response. I would have liked to actually hear it from Apple that the... moreThat's also another good point. With the ip4, a case would eliminate its weak spot, while with the other phones with internal antenna, you would think that because their antennas are inside, that they wouldn't have this antennagate issue. But they still do. I say, that the ip4's new antenna design is much better, because it's weak spot can easily be fixed.
[deleted post]Where have you been? Lol. No one is denying that the ip4 has antennagate. Also, we know that its weak spot is that little black strip on the lower left side of the phone. So what do we do? We either avoid it or get a case, and there wouldn't be any problem. So I don't know why you have to insist on gripping that weak spot.
Stuntman, 22 Jul 2010@Tech
Thanks for your response. I would have liked to actually hear it from Apple that the... moregood suggestion: don't forget to include same network. reception is completely different for different networks.
EX in my home with an ATT SIM card triband phones (1900) get 0 to 1 bars while quadband phones (850) get 3-4 bars.
that it run the test on one phone. remove sim card insert in second phone a repeat test.
[deleted post]i'm very aware of nokia market position in world markets. I have been a huge fan of nokia 6 series phones for many years now. I am truly saddened by nokia choice not to offer them here in USA. When I live in silicon valley & must travel outside the USA to get nokia's best products something is wrong.
You must be aware of nokias small US market share. If apple tried to attach a google phone they would have overwhelmed by vast hoards of indigent google fans flooding every on-line forum there is. they would have been shouted down. There youtube video would have been quickly being discreditted & hidden from casual viewing.
I have been quite consistant in my criticism of apples "phones" as they do such a poor job at voice communication. look for posts every 200 or so by "xman".
Thanks for your response. I would have liked to actually hear it from Apple that their case actually does improve the signal quality on their iPhone 4. It would have been appropriate to do so in their press conference. The video that PIRATE posted did show an improvement in performance with the case.
My understanding is that the issue has to do with the human hand being in direct contact with the external antennae on the iPhone 4 that is the issue. The case seems to prevent this direct contact and is the reason the signal has improved. For the various other phones, my understanding is that their antennae are internal, so there is no direct contact with the hand. The material used for those other phones also appear to be non-conductive, so why would a case for those other phones help and if so, would it help as much?
@PIRATE: Very interesting videos you have posted regarding the iPhone 4 antenna issue. I would like to know if you (or anyone else) has any video that compares two different phones at the same location and time. All of the videos I have seen show a test done on only one phone. I would be interested to see the test done with two phones side by side. It's hard to compare the results if the tests are done in different places at different times with different hands.
Tech, 22 Jul 2010Yea I know whole procedure of electricity conduct, and the antenna is exposed to the finger
... moreDid u see the video i posted ? It makes it all clear. If u missed it here it is again:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ture=related
Facts show a problem, if ur a real technician u would know that, did u try talking from a Nokia e72 ? Till now from iphones, to HTC, to other brands i used its the clearest out there, just try it for urself. Im a smartphone tester, and i changes phones often.
iPhoneFanNOT, 22 Jul 2010Finally, something that makes sense.. By the way, Apple can afford those Expensive Signal Jamm... moreYes, I guess it is expensive. The technology is known as nanotechnology paint (since 2006). It is used in some building such as Cinemas.
AEFox, 22 Jul 2010This is so easy and people is sooooo dumb to see it ...
Apple iPhone 4 has worst signal tha... moreYou are wrong buddy. The ip4 has the best reception and call quality among all iphones. It's probably even better than most at&t smartphones out there.
It is true that attenuation is on every phone. No one denied it. So no need for anyone to take offense.
As for fixing it. There's not fix for weak spots for now. As Steve had said, it is something that the mobile industry would have to deal with for now. And that is the truth.
You're the one who needs to open your eyes and accept facts. There is no fix for antennagate, for now. Even if Apple recalls the ip4, it would still have a weak spot, and so will the others. Deal with it.
..of all the vast amount of 'latest' phones out there today, Apple decide to use a model that's at least 1-2 years old - a N97 Mini would NOT be the 1st phone that would come to mind when looking to test the 'latest' phones...
PIRATE, 22 Jul 2010But u do realize that Iphone 4 has an external antenna which when touched "as showed in v... moreYea I know whole procedure of electricity conduct, and the antenna is exposed to the finger
but there is little difference between the result and infact when you use the phones practically, u will realize that the call quality on Iphone 4 is better than most of the other phones.
But lastly when u use the cover there is no issue with the signal on any smartphone in the market.
Well, a good commercial for N97 mini, and Nokia could sure use some.
I like the fact that the antenna is away from my brain, on a lower side of the phone.
This is so easy and people is sooooo dumb to see it ...
Apple iPhone 4 has worst signal than any other phone, but no time to fixed, too much lost costs, so what they do?... ok OS will show more bars, may be 2 or more than the REAL signal bars ...
Done!... iPhone 4 is selling now... and people are happy, but hey ... what happend... call down!... but i see 2 bars!...
So, now ... Apple said... every phone has the same issue ... nope... even with ONE bar we can talk on any other phone but not on the iPhone 4... of course the bars are LYING...
So, now iOS 4.01 .. will show the real amount of bar ... no more lying.. ok... good... but Steve you don't fixed the main problem, even with that case for free...
Oh! right right, i forgot that i am not lying anymore...
So .. "APPLE LOVE THEIR CUSTOMERS" ... but they LIE to them from the beginning...
Open your eyes "CUSTOMERS" !!!
Nokia fans should really get over it.
All phones have weak spots. Even nokia, rim, motorola, samsung, and htc never denied Apple's statement. They reacted. But they never denied it.
It is not a big deal. Nothing that Apple said in their press con blamed anyone. The media was the one who blew it out of proportion and singled out the ip4. Apple is simply telling the media that all phones have antennagate. Some worse than others, but they all have it.
Reports show that antennagate is not the primary reason for dropped calls, but the carriers' weak areas of reception. So let's not dwell on this.
The media was the one who didn't do enough research before accusing Apple exclusively of a common issue among smartphones. But of course the media wouldn't say sorry. Why would they when they made a lot of ad revenues because of this.