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German Stiftung Warentest: iPhone 4 is the real signal loser

26 July, 2010 | Read the news | Post your comment
German Stiftung Warentest: iPhone 4 is the real signal loser - read the full textThe popular German foundation Stiftung Warentest, which is the regional authority on consumer product testing accommodated the recently unveiled Apple iPhone 4 in its lab and tested its notorious antenna performance. And no-one will be surprised to hear that the iPhone 4 failed to impress the guys...

 

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Speaking of the iPad, this gadget had a trouble with WiFi right? I mean, this isnt new to Apple, right?

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  • 2010-07-28 20:15
  • 9Fjh

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2010-07-27 23:09 from FJRe - click to readyou didnt say it but you look so glad that Apple is making money like if Idk you're gonna get some of that. Whatever...

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  • 2010-07-28 20:10
  • 9Fjh

any comments on the "news"?

90% signal loss is quite a bit. I'm used to designing systems to 75% signal loss. is there any standards on what a "bar" stands for. is it a linear? logarithmic? does each manufacture have there own standards?

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  • 2010-07-28 19:45
  • DIx8

> In reply to Someone @ 2010-07-28 14:46 from Sgv7 - click to readhaven't you heard of monopolizing

that' clearly what apple is doing
steve wants every to stop using windows based laptop and netbook and use his ipad
but it wont work cause people need a full OS to work
and the ones with the ipad are just sucks looking for status and popularity

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  • 2010-07-28 15:39
  • q}ZM

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2010-07-28 11:32 from P%nm - click to readWell if you REALLY want to you can, your car will still work on the right hand side of the road.

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  • 2010-07-28 15:07
  • yyXI

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2010-07-28 11:35 from P%nm - click to readForum rules are one thing, denying people who purchased an expensive gadget to voice their opinions by deleting their (justified) comments and worries, is another.

Here are the GSMarena forum rules :
Posting rules
Please no foul language
Be polite and use common sense
English only
Expressions of hatred based on race/ethnicity, sex, sexual orientation, disability, and religion are strictly prohibited
No commercial advertising
No SPAM. No pyramid schemes of any kind
No bashing - deliberately and repeatedly bashing the same brand
No trolling - deliberately antagonizing other brand/model users
Read before you post. Search before you post. There is a big chance that your question is already answered
Posting your contact info such as phone number or email is not a good idea. We won't be responsible for any unwanted consequences.

So, Where exactly does it state that voicing your concers will result in deletion of your comments?

In other words, Apple does not take kindly to those who dare to raise their voice.
Direct question : do you work or are you in any way, shape or form afiliated to apple?

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  • 2010-07-28 14:56
  • MVfw

Guys, be serious!

If the iPad was supposed to replace laptops do you think Apple would stop making MacBooks, MacBook Airs and MacBook Pro's??

Come on now.

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  • 2010-07-28 14:46
  • Sgv7

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2010-07-28 11:35 from P%nm - click to readreally, duplicates?
that's all you can come up with?

really?

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  • 2010-07-28 14:12
  • MVfw

> In reply to iphone4fan @ 2010-07-28 07:27 from PTUv - click to read"probably the number one apple fan on the net" - iphone4fan

you should be very proud of yourself(!)

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  • 2010-07-28 13:55
  • yyXI

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2010-07-28 11:30 from P%nm - click to readtheir manuals instruct you to hold the phone in what i would call a 'normal' way. with apple this is not possible.

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  • 2010-07-28 13:52
  • yyXI

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2010-07-28 11:32 from P%nm - click to read" iphone4fan " this is exactly my point...

if you bought something..specially one that claims to be "state of the art" you should use it anyway you want,most importantly in the most conventional way...right??

so yeah..if you want to drive on the right or even on the left side, you can do so..and it will not have any major effect...

you hear this "iphone4fan "

read and comprehend...

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  • 2010-07-28 11:36
  • 9x0e

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2010-07-28 09:28 from MVfw - click to readForums have rules, post the wrong thing here and GSM Arena deletes it.

You say "Want to complain and post something on the Apple forum on their own website?
Too bad, it get's deleted!".

In the Apple forums if a thread on a topic already exists they delete it, to get rid of duplicates.

So what?

It's their forum, their rules.

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  • 2010-07-28 11:35
  • P%nm

> In reply to !!!! @ 2010-07-28 07:44 from 9x0e - click to readWhy should I drive on the left side of the road, it's my damn car, from tomorrow I'm driving it on the right.

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  • 2010-07-28 11:32
  • P%nm

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2010-07-28 09:28 from MVfw - click to readHave you seen the user manuals that tell you how to hold your phone?

From Nokia, HTC and others?

They've been doing it for years.

Why is Apple being singled out?

Why are their phone's being subjected to special tests?

Why aren't iPhone owners complaining in large numbers?

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  • 2010-07-28 11:30
  • P%nm

> In reply to !!!! @ 2010-07-28 09:34 from 9x0e - click to readyes, it has been reported on Cnet, ZDnet and even the CNN site.
if not, google "apple removes comments from forum" and you'll see what i mean.

talk about a narrowminded company !

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  • 2010-07-28 11:26
  • MVfw

People hardly notice signal loss unless there is a dropped call and that is what made the Apple iPhone 4 Antenna issue more popular.

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  • 2010-07-28 10:57
  • fuNe

> In reply to !!!! @ 2010-07-28 09:34 from 9x0e - click to reador you mean if a certain person post something negative on thier website..they(apple) wont post it????

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  • 2010-07-28 09:36
  • 9x0e

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2010-07-28 09:28 from MVfw - click to readfor real???

apple deleted the website/thier own website where we can post grivances,comments??

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  • 2010-07-28 09:34
  • 9x0e

> In reply to iphone4fan @ 2010-07-28 07:27 from PTUv - click to readwow, so according to your logic we should just hold the phone the way Apple wants or we could (actually, WILL) lose the signal and have dropped calls?

tell your employer (apple / steve jobs) i'm not stupid enough to buy a phone that does not even have the capability to hold a signal long enough if i happen to hold it the way I (the buyer) want!

this is getting ridiculous : apple blames everyone except their faulty phone and does not get it in their minds to recall every phone and make it better.
i think a lot of potential customer would prefer this to the silly case they get (and which is useless by the way!).

apple is not delivering the goods and if their brands-bashing is any indication instead of saying "mea culpa", then indeed, they don't "baby" their livelihood, they just chase them away if they voice their opinions.
Want to complain and post something on the Apple forum on their own website?
Too bad, it get's deleted!
Want to voice your opinion here?
Too bad, apple employees visit this site and counteract every opinion as i'm quite sure it will happen to mine.

apple doesn't need to baby their livelihood (paying customers), they need to grow up and take responsibility!

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  • 2010-07-28 09:28
  • MVfw

Well I am now on my second IPHONE 4 and I am having the same problems which is calls dropping and a big problem with the signal, also had a couple of freezes. It will be going back for a different make these Apples are poop! I was a Nokia user and thought I would have a bite of the Apple but never again.

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  • 2010-07-28 09:23
  • nF1g
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