Anonymous, 29 Jan 2011Obviously you aren't doing enough research on your devices then. Android comes with calendar a... moreMy sisters have SGS and X10 Mini Pro, and I've used each quite a bit and they have the latest updates.
Mass Storage mode does not work properly on the SGS. Neither of them have photo editing beyond cropping and basic colour effects. The calendar applications on each of them are somehow less intuitive than the S60 one. Neither of them can easily place music controls, contacts, Facebook, clock and two rows of launchers on a single home screen. I don't know about the SGS, but SE's PC suite just sucks balls. Having to browse five pages of launchers is IMHO far less convenient than having launchers organised in folders.
I speak from experience as much as possible. As I've said, I'm happy to be proven wrong at any time, and have personally encountered the above. Given the superior hardware in their devices, I can only blame the software for failing to meet my expectations. I'm sure there's an application out there to solve most of the above issues, but once again why should the user be put through the hassle of trying out half a dozen different applications in order to find the right one?
Plz lrn2history. Google Maps has not always had offline mode. It has for a while, but not from launch. Ovi Maps has always provided pre-installed maps. The reason I bring up data is that sometimes you just want to see a map of an unfamiliar area - if you're out of coverage GMaps is just no help at all.
As for the purpose of having a smart phone - I'd say that's up to each individual user.
yep, iam nokia fan, but i hate nokia now because their symbian is very bad OS. i start run to IOS and android, they both very smooth and user friendly. i like them..
Nokia is you change your mine to run Android as your OS then i will stick my mine to YOU.
OVI is very bad place for me, your App is amazing if it were in 2005, not 2011..
we are in 2011 now, pls change!!!
there is reason why Nokia feel this way .. and why it is like this.. go do ur homework people... and NOKiA plzz upgrade... stop getting stomp and start stomping please...
[deleted post]Does it make any difference to what i said?
Anonymous, 29 Jan 2011You do know that LG prada was out before the Iphone and it was a full touch screen capacitive ... morePrada was laggy. A friend had it. Was the first iPhone more succesfull than prada? Got a link or something?
Anonymous, 29 Jan 2011Capable of serving the purpose for which it was designed. Once again you fail at comprehension... more"Capable of serving the purpose for which it was designed. Once again you fail at comprehension.
Thats your definition."
Some guy from Greece, 29 Jan 2011And by the way. iOS not being thumbable is an answer to your claim that it sold because it was... moreYou do know that LG prada was out before the Iphone and it was a full touch screen capacitive based mobile phone correct? Why did the LG prada not share the same success as the Iphone then? Easy, user accessibility. Iphone user experience was far superior. Like I said, they took a smart phone and made it easy for anyone and their grandma to use. They did not make it so you have to hit 5 menus just to change settings, or set up email, or edit calendars. So obviously having capacitive touch screen was not the only reason for iphone success.
Some guy from Greece, 29 Jan 2011http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/functionality
Capable of serving the purpose for which... moreCapable of serving the purpose for which it was designed. Once again you fail at comprehension.
Thats your definition.
You are still confusing proficiency with functionality. So again how is android devices less functional? Android devices are designed as a phone(check it can make calls), Media devices(check it can play videos, mp3s, and browse the web at far better efficiency than your crappy Nokia browsers, oh and yeah Android and iOS has better subtitle support than Nokia devices too!), it can take pictures fine with the camera built in(Although the N8 has a better camera, but we don't market our phones as camera replacements and neglect every other features). So once again how does your ability to use your device faster make Android less functional? You fanboys keep making up weird explanations that make no sense. Just base on the points i've given, Android is more functional than Symbian^3. Nokia can't eve get on screen qwerty correct, they fail at that even though they had such a great qwerty keyboard on the E71, E63, E72, E73?
[deleted post]And by the way. iOS not being thumbable is an answer to your claim that it sold because it was fuctional.
Slower to use, needed both hands, very different to anything else (painfull learning process) and without any reason - mobile internet was too expensive at the time. Now that's functional...
TSH, 29 Jan 2011Why do you care so much? I like not having to browse for hours looking for an adequate (cal... moreObviously you aren't doing enough research on your devices then. Android comes with calendar and photo editing pre installed since Eclair(2.1) Froyo makes up for more than half of the android devices available on the market to date so you're not constantly looking for anything. Android allows easier editing of widgets and screen layout creating. We don't need to download "themes" for anything. We can re-size widgets, create shortcuts by 2 clicks, not having to go through 3 or 4 menus. Obviously you have never used android nor looked into it. You're not constrained to Android market, you can freely download applications from any where and install it. Googlemaps has always had offline mode, however if you wanted to look for points of interest you would then need data. However if you were gonna buy a smart phone why not buy data anyways? That kind of defeats the purpose of having a smart phone? Not always being able to connect? I don't know about you, but I have never had a problem using my devices as a mass storage device on any of my android phones.
Capable of serving the purpose for which it was designed, dictionary says. Your definitions are not my concern..
"Your refusal at not wanting to learn how to use a device(in this point Android has basically no learning curve) does not make it any less functional like i said."
Adroid is different than Symbian => learning curve
Simple enough for you?
Now Symbian serves me faster and more comfortably than Adroid => there is no reason to swich.
It doean't get any simpler than that, sorry.
[deleted post]Why do you care so much?
I like not having to browse for hours looking for an adequate (calendar, image editing, whatever) application; I prefer the PC-like folder structure and the way the homescreen is organised; I appreciate the very comprehensive PC Suite; I prefer to get applications from wherever I please, not just the single sanctioned repository; my phone is a tool, not a toy; I like not having to connect to the 'net just to look at a map, and I appreciate using ~50kb of data to go from one end of the city to the other when navigating; I like a USB Mass Storage Mode that actually works properly.
I am not a blindly loyal fanatic - my gizmos are picked based on what they can do for me, subject to budget constraints. I'm not wedded to the past - I would consider Android if just some of the above were addressed, in particular the PC Suite.
Anonymous, 28 Jan 2011LOL seriously? You're using a ratio of resisitve to capacitive touch screen as a reason for fi... more"You say the capacitive touch screen on the iphone is the main reason people bought it? Again that is not true. They took a smart phone and they basically made it easy to use, putting out everything in icons instead of having complicated menus. When compared to Symbian or Windows Mobile this was a drastic change allowing someone to easily use a smart phone without having a steep learning curve."
I've also said "5. It is well organised and if not i can put functions where ever i want to make it easier to get to them." You can put everything you need in the main menu, or the homescreen. Many years now.
About the steep learning curve, there wasn't any. People already new how to navigate through menus, no learning process required.
I based my post on the obvious observation that i made when i got the first iPhone in my hands. A true marvel to use, it's so obvious that the screen's sensitivity worked there. If i remember well, there wasn't anything like it for a long time...
About functionality then, i really never saw that at the first phone that demanded the use both hands to operate it. I still find iOS the least thumbable OS and such the last choice. For me.
"You say just because you are familiar with Symbian that makes it more functional? Please stop being a fan boy seriously."
I'm faster and more comfortable with it. It is that simple. What is it that you don't get?
"You say Symbian is easier because you don't need to relearn how to use the OS? Either you're slow or you're so old you can't learn how to use it, but that is not true."
What if i don't want to?
Oh wait, i've got a better one!
What if i don't have to?
What if i don't see anything better at Adroid?
chester, 28 Jan 2011in cellphone kingdom Nokia rulez. That's as long as other brand fail 2 live up2 our expecta... moreROFL the average user doesn't care about being able to boot up different OS. HD2 can boot about as many OS as the N900 can and has more up to date hardware. Does that make the HD2 Supreme ruler if the N900 is king then? I thought Nokia phones were the complete package? Why are N900 users dying to load android onto their devices then? HD2 windows mobile 6.5 sucks, everyone knows that. That's the reason they're so eager to use Android. You're sure smart huh? LOL N900 running Android Gingerbread, guess what genius, basically everyone who rooted their android device and is using a custom rom is also using Gingerbread.
wat we nokia fans are really sayn is that,put all the n8 distintive feature i.e 12mp xenon,otg,fm transmitter,free maps,hdmi mirroring, and a free app store in any android phone,i will certainly think on swtchn my n8 for it. .we know we dont have the best phone on the market,we are not even trying to have the best phone on the market this instance. .but we want a phone that currently gives us a complete package.an all in one device. .and currently only nokia provides it,i know android upcomin phones are comin with mo bt a dual core phone with no smp support,seriously wtf!!!
Some guy from Greece, 28 Jan 2011The opinion is as factual as it gets in this case. Symbian does become more capable and functi... moreLOL seriously? You're using a ratio of resisitve to capacitive touch screen as a reason for financial success or not? Heres a fact. Resistive touch screen sucks, everyone including their grandma knows that. Is it Apple's fault they realize that the market likes capacitive touch screen better? No. It's Nokia's fault for using cheaper resistive touch screen to have a higher profit margin for the crap phones they put out. You say the capacitive touch screen on the iphone is the main reason people bought it? Again that is not true. They took a smart phone and they basically made it easy to use, putting out everything in icons instead of having complicated menus. When compared to Symbian or Windows Mobile this was a drastic change allowing someone to easily use a smart phone without having a steep learning curve. You say just because you are familiar with Symbian that makes it more functional? Please stop being a fan boy seriously. Show me a link with factual evidence of functionality of Symbian that Android and iOS can not do. Functionality is defined as the following:
1. The quality of being functional.
2. A useful function within a computer application or program.
3. The capacity of a computer program or application to provide a useful function.
So again show me something Symbian can do that Android or iOS can not do? Otherwise Symbian is only as functional as the other two os and you fanboys should just stop using that exaggerated excuse. Truth is you fanboys never even touched an android or iOS device that is why you guys know nothing of battery life or functionality. You say Symbian is easier because you don't need to relearn how to use the OS? Either you're slow or you're so old you can't learn how to use it, but that is not true. I've seen ladies in their 40's use the iphone 4, my niece is 3 and a half years old and she can fully use her ipod touch which is an iOS device. So either my niece is smarter than you fanboys or you're just stubborn to learn, and guess what? Innovation waits for no one. Enjoy your outdated ancient devices while android and iOS eats away at Nokia's market share.
i love to argue, 28 Jan 2011its time up for nokia,
No king rules forever !!in cellphone kingdom Nokia rulez.
That's as long as other brand fail 2 live up2 our expectations,
Now n900 can load any OS,imagine now u can run Adroid Gingerbread on n900,would u even think of buying Adroid phones.by the way Gingerbread is not yet available 4 many Adroid phones.
Long live Nokia
HT, 28 Jan 2011Unfortunately,they are still king,they made a mistake in Symbian S60V5 with Nokia N97,but now ... morenokia coming out with dual core and dragontail glass ? whose fairy tale are you reading. its true nokia will come up with dual core phones some time in the future but by that time almost all manufacturers would also have it.
and you are saying meego will become first, even before its launched ??lol....
i love to argue, 28 Jan 2011its time up for nokia, No king rules forever !!Unfortunately,they are still king,they made a mistake in Symbian S60V5 with Nokia N97,but now they are going to dual core phones,new features,12mp camera beast,Dual core processor and Meego. Symbian^3 really did well. But who cares? when meego comes out really wish to Andoid and iOS good luck cos they won't have a chance. When aluminium anodized body,dragontail glass,12mp beast, Meego OS and Dual Core CPU+hercules GPU LOL...