Max, 12 Jul 2017About 75% would be decent indoors pictures, preferably without a flash. Unfortunately most pho... moreolder phones had width, meaning more space for bigger everything. From mics to cameras and speakers. Of course s2 has better, bigger mics.. it has room. Nowadays all oems are after slimmer and slimmer devices. More and more dependant on software than hardware, and that's the problem.
We will never see speakers like Sony Ericsson W995's, they are still far ahead in quality and loudness, especially loudness. We won't see again sensors that focus extremely fast like Sony Ericsson k810 camera could, unless oems start focusing on a bit fatter smartphones at 9 and even 10mm, so there is room for bigger everything.
Anonymous, 11 Jul 2017I think samrtphone sensor makers should increase their sensor sizes and go for a 1inch sensor ... morethat would be nice, but that will make phones a lot fatter. Whenever I turn my eyes on my Z5's camera lens I can bet they can make room for a bigger sensor. from 1/2,3 to 1/2,0 or even 1,8. Certainly the phone will end up a little fatter at 8,5mm for example but, we get a bigger battery, better more powerful speakers and of course smaller bezels. If sony ever decide to put the camera behind, and not over the top of the screen!
Kyo, 12 Jul 2017It's not a marketing trick but rather an excuse for the fact that they have run out of ideas t... moreEven the the Nokia Lumia 930 still stands head and shoulders above the current smart phone kings.
Main thing I'm looking for is fast accurate autofocus. Everything else can be post corrected but not focus.
Anonymous, 12 Jul 2017I have heard a few say that they would choose XZ over S7. Also XZ over i7+. considering its a sony phone, ofc its much better in camera...
Nokia had the best wxamples of a great camera.
1. Nokia n8
2. Nokia 808
Not in amy specific order. They have nailed it in all aspects and the 808 is truely killer even for todays standards.
mir, 12 Jul 2017And we will not be surprised by how other manufacturers will make better use of Sony's sensor ... moreIt's not just the sensor alone.
There goes the sensor size, the detail level, the aperture size, the pixel size, the presence or absence of a stabilizer, the quality of the lens, the processing excellence, and also the resulting image.
Out of the 8 aspects, Xperias usually cover 2-3 of those, namely the sensor size, quality of the lens, and resulting image. Now it can be at 4 since the XZ Premium got an even better image processing if still not class leading.
If they implemented a wider aperture, an image stabilizer (not OIS, it is mediocre for videos and can't be turned off), larger pixels (by reducing megapixel or increasing sensor size, but better if both), and a great processing stamina, then undoubtedly the IMX400 will be an undefeated camera sensor out of a flagship.
And mind you, this IMX400 will get its debut to the XA2 and XA2 Ultra (successors of the XA1 and XA1 Ultra, respectively) but with even better software processing and a better hardware like larger aperture and presence of image stabilizer.
The IMX500 with the same mentioned key improvements will be a dream of a mobile camera experience.
In 2018, I'll doubt Samsung will get the same 960fps Slow Motion or anti-rolling shutter distortion camera sensor for their handsets.
This explains how advanced Sony is at technologies.
About 75% would be decent indoors pictures, preferably without a flash. Unfortunately most phones I've seen make grainy, dark pics in any low-light situations even when they appear quite adequately lit to the human eye. This needs to change - OEMs, I don't care what trickery you deploy: FIX THIS. The rest of 25% would be undistorted(ish) video soundtrack in high sound pressure conditions - I have WAY too many old concert flicks with effectively garbled white noise for audio, captured both using digicams and phones; which is why my jaw dropped seeing that a Galaxy S2 can record perfectly fine audio in the same circumstances.
Kyo, 12 Jul 2017It's not a marketing trick but rather an excuse for the fact that they have run out of ideas t... moreout of ideas? The problem is that a zoom lens is to big to fit in a smartphone body and besides that it would make the lens too slow for low light. A wide-angle lens is bad for portraits, so a second camera is the only solution right now. We might see lenses with internal zoom in the near future, who knows
Kobresia, 12 Jul 2017Anybody seen canon eos or nikon or sony alpha camera with dual lens? I have not! So dual camer... moreIt's not a marketing trick but rather an excuse for the fact that they have run out of ideas to implement new features in cameras.The old Lumia 1020 still stands mighty in front of all with only s7,s8 and u11 doing better
what makes a great camera, well I think it should be; 1. bigger CMOS sensor, size 1/2 or 1/1.5 back illuminated, dual pixel, optical stabilization, 2. wide aperture F1.8 at least, 3. low nois ISO from 400 - 1600 or higher that will be gear for video, 4. HRD software balancing high and low light, a proper, 5. Xenon fash up to 3 meter.
Anybody seen canon eos or nikon or sony alpha camera with dual lens? I have not! So dual camera is another market trick.
vrvly, 12 Jul 2017Still miss here - audio quality, length of 4K recording, stills&4K battery drain. Its all ... moreAgree with you. I still wonder how is possible iPhone to record mono sound in videos?!?
Still miss here - audio quality, length of 4K recording, stills&4K battery drain. Its all part of great camera experience.
Not having noise is the most important gesture, as Boone likes blurry pictures, fine details comes next, as the more, the better, but if there is noise, again the picture will be blurry. Color and constrast are subjective and can be calibrated after the picture is taken and it also depends on the screen that is displayed.
What is missing from this poll, is the most important aspect imo, what has been missing since the days of the first camera on phone I owned, (Sony Ericsson T68i)
The image quality at low light. Every flagship after the LG G4 makes great day pictures, with very small differences between them now days.
But we spend most of our time indoors and half of the day at less than ideal light conditions. Still, the majority of the cameras on phones have unacceptable results in such conditions. This is where there is the most space to cover. HTC and LG are trying hard to follow Samsung utter dominance in this field, but not enough, as Samsung felt no need to further augment it on S8. The rest, bar Apple, are just pathetic. Wide angles, third cams, are a mere gimmick that is trending, mp race over 12mps, is already dead. What everybody needs to focus now is less noise on dark conditions and then zooming with less noise, possibly more ways to get optical zoom in small size.