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Apple, Nokia, Motorola and RIM argue over the nano-SIM design

21 March, 2012 | Read the news | Post your comment
Apple, Nokia, Motorola and RIM argue over the nano-SIM design - read the full textGiesecke & Devrient, the German company that invented the SIM card, recently came up with the idea of the nano-SIM. This new, even smaller version of the SIM is only a third of the already tiny micro-SIM and will help device manufacturers save some precious space inside their devices. Image...


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stay with the sim system... better than the non sim/CDMA system...... mini/micro/nano..... not an issue if youre not a fussy phone user or for multi phone users, just get/ use phones with the same size sims.... and make sure you have the appropriate cutter handy if needed. personally, i prefer the mini....and micro sims vs the nanos.

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  • 2012-12-28 05:32
  • q{}F

if space is precious we should go back to old ways. where there was no sim on the mobile. analogue days. i remember getting my first phone. where the salesman connected it to a little gadget. and programmed a phone number in. no hassle. no fiddly sim cards.

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  • 2012-03-25 11:01
  • 3J6J

Apple probably thinks that they are the USA of mobile device maker.

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  • 2012-03-25 09:13
  • IVUH

How space saving is having a tray! And adding inconvenience of looking for a pin to poke!!

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  • 2012-03-24 13:20
  • v}2d

True to a comment made about not the whole world uses a micro sim card so why make it more smaller?? Never liked apple and now not a tiny bit. I have had a motorola,blackberry,a samsung and last a nokia which i love my phone. Had a iphone for weeks never liked lacks so many things i love from the other phones. So go nokia

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  • 2012-03-23 19:51
  • LJmg

Cant wait to scrabble around on the floor looking for my Nano Sim after I've dropped it


If you say that in an overly camp voice using sausages for fingers then you will understand where I'm coming (wink wink) from

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  • 2012-03-23 17:24
  • M3s@

> In reply to ET @ 2012-03-21 19:03 from 8TJb - click to readI second the opinion. Manufacturers must try and make other phone components smaller rather than SIM card. Moore's law does not apply here.

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  • 2012-03-23 16:50
  • vGtr

It must be fair!!! If most manufacturers agree on one side then they must agree on the strongest side. Apple, may be with its technology thinks that they can go further with the Nano Sim then design it only for Apple

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  • 2012-03-23 15:52
  • fsMn

> In reply to Dothan @ 2012-03-22 11:03 from pWkN - click to readNot true, just look at the first pages of any ETSI standard, it will tell you that the standard or parts of it might fall under patent protection.

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  • 2012-03-22 15:14
  • 4ceG

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2012-03-22 10:57 from nIdB - click to readi think you like to remove your fone cover and battery to take out your sim...ok i nkow you hate apple atleast appreciate the design!!

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  • 2012-03-22 12:30
  • vbPF

> In reply to N3KO @ 2012-03-21 20:14 from NUwE - click to readNot really. The SIM card specification is created and owned by ETSI (so no vendor patents here) and is first produced by Giesecke & Devrient. The vendors - like Apple, Nokia, Motorola, RIM, Sony can only propose to ETSI how the SIM should look like and what functions to have. But the decision is coming from ETSI and they are creating the standards - so no place for stupid patent wars.

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  • 2012-03-22 11:03
  • pWkN

crApples version requiring a tray is stupid. I hope Nokia wins.

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  • 2012-03-22 10:57
  • nIdB

The whole idea of making the nano sim is to save space inside all of our devices, so as always Apple want to use a tray to put the sim in which like now will be about the size of a normal sim.... where does the space saving come in?

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  • 2012-03-22 10:46
  • mga3

> In reply to N3KO @ 2012-03-21 20:14 from NUwE - click to readthey get away because of $100bn in their bank accounts

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  • 2012-03-22 08:22
  • Svec

> In reply to Jimmychew @ 2012-03-21 19:56 from mppQ - click to readWell ... there are people who carry two or three phones and mostly from different vendors. And most of this kind of people I know, chose their phones based of universal accessories, which one of them is a travel charger. They don't want to bother themselves by carrying multiple chargers when the actually can just bring one for all of their devices. These people will not only by Apple accessories, they even not bother to buy the phone. Isn't this a loss?

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  • 2012-03-22 07:49
  • 4f0X

iPhone go back to your SIM-less CDMA habitat. Leave GSM alone.

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  • 2012-03-22 03:49
  • sEEx

I want a bigger screen on the new iphone, not an ever shrinking sim card!

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  • 2012-03-22 02:56
  • R5xp

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2012-03-22 00:32 from 3pHm - click to readthey should be following standards like everyone else is ..and those stupid tablets with propriatetry port should be changed as well

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  • 2012-03-22 01:53
  • NUwE

> In reply to N3KO @ 2012-03-21 20:14 from NUwE - click to readApple Have a Micro USB adapter which complies to the EU request. So you are given a choice. you can use the apple cable or pay £8 for the adapter so you csan use Micro USB. This is up to you what you want to do, but they have given you the choice

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  • 2012-03-22 00:32
  • 3pHm

> In reply to mac10 @ 2012-03-21 20:00 from mppQ - click to readBecause people travel a lot and like to use their own phone internationally. So they can just pop the sim card out.

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  • 2012-03-22 00:19
  • 46pY

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