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Samsung will manufacture 28nm Qualcomm Snapdragon chips

04 July, 2012 | Read the news | Post your comment
Samsung will manufacture 28nm Qualcomm Snapdragon chips - read the full textYes, you read that right. Samsung, one of major producers of own-brand mobile silicon, is about to help Qualcomm produce some of their 28nm Snapdragon S4 SoCs. How about that? The reason for this is that Qualcomm's current manufacturing partner, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing, better...

 

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can anyone tell me why people these days want a dual core or quad core smartphone??????? When all needs are full filled with a single core???? Like meego os..it runs silky smooth with only 1ghz processor..android requires multiprocessor or what? Kindly Explain

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  • 2012-07-08 03:53
  • Hkqj

Everyone sues Samsung, but Samsung helps competition to have better products.
Dafuq?!

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  • 2012-07-05 19:50
  • 3pwj

> In reply to lol @ 2012-07-05 08:35 from 39ny - click to readGalaxy S1 has Hummingbird
And Exynos is the best chip and better than Hummingbird otherwise Apple didn't count on the next generation of Exynos chip to make their Apple A6 "IPhone5"
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsu...al-quarrels/

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  • 2012-07-05 18:03
  • fqeK

> In reply to nick @ 2012-07-05 05:33 from rJmv - click to readOf course, qualcomm s4 is not as powerful as A15 and there is not A15 exynos in market now. Not even s3.

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  • 2012-07-05 16:10
  • UGnE

> In reply to Sir Awesome @ 2012-07-05 05:08 from sydF - click to readyes it does means copy the tech inside.

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  • 2012-07-05 13:01
  • dWpy

Galaxy S i9000 was equipped with S5PC110 Hummingbird CPU, which has been renamed to Exynos 3110 later.

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  • 2012-07-05 10:57
  • SnwM

> In reply to lol @ 2012-07-05 08:35 from 39ny - click to readno, the galaxy s 1 (i9000) uses the Power VR GPU.. if i remember right hummingbird?.... TI OMAP was in the N95 nokia's.. (and then they went backwards)

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  • 2012-07-05 10:33
  • sG%5

> In reply to adn.engineers @ 2012-07-05 02:37 from kAnJ - click to readThanks for the insight, it was a nice read :)

Is there any technical reason for OEMs to produce built in cells these days? Or OEMs just want to push customers to buy a new phone instead of replacing the battery in their older phones in a repair shop?

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  • 2012-07-05 08:49
  • D4xX

> In reply to TheMan @ 2012-07-04 21:27 from fqeK - click to readThe first galaxy s had an tiomap procesor not the cortex a9.

GENIUS

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  • 2012-07-05 08:35
  • 39ny

> In reply to xcal @ 2012-07-04 23:26 from 3CeQ - click to readApple doesn't design their chip sets, dummy

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  • 2012-07-05 07:40
  • K1w$

Even though they are all licensed designs from ARM, each manufacturer again refines them. this makes some faster than others. and yes, at the same clock speed, exynos and apple chipsets give better performance. followed by qcom, and then nvidia and ti.
if you look at the exynos design you will be surprised that you are actually handling a full fledged computer chipset as a single chip

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  • 2012-07-05 06:41
  • 7qH%

Krait may beat exynos quad in some benchmarks but it cant beat exynos A15 dual/quad... Exynos is way superior than snapdragon....

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  • 2012-07-05 05:33
  • rJmv

> In reply to xcal @ 2012-07-04 23:26 from 3CeQ - click to readThat doesn't mean Samsung copies them.

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  • 2012-07-05 05:08
  • sydF

Overal exynos is the best

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  • 2012-07-05 04:44
  • TL5a

> In reply to TheMan @ 2012-07-04 21:27 from fqeK - click to readBecause they use a different 4G cellular frequency?

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  • 2012-07-05 03:21
  • sydF

> In reply to TheMan @ 2012-07-04 21:27 from fqeK - click to readbecause, Pamsung is copy-cat, always steal others' technologies and ideas :P

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  • 2012-07-05 03:20
  • 693G

> In reply to aqua24 @ 2012-07-04 19:58 from t7Xi - click to readYou have a very weak mind and there's no cure for you. You've been infected with a Rotten virus that make you think Apple first to invent everything including a rectangular shape and pulldown notification bar. Why are you buying cars or TVs that look just like others?

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  • 2012-07-05 02:53
  • 0c}g

The chipset industry is a commodity driven marketplace. It is not uncommon for an OEM to produce a "rival's" technology. Whether the decision is based upon inhouse usage of the said SoC or from a business decision based upon more basic profit/risk reasons, Samsung producing Qualcomm SoCs isn't that "surprising" to us (in reality).

What's interesting is Samsung producing a 28nm SoC while their Exynos prodcuts remain in 32nm format. Perhaps in doing so to create the mfg pipeline for the smaller footprint. Was more of a curious observation than anything else.

As for the LTE issue it seems much more of a marketing faux pas (since endusers tend to equate more cores as necessarily better) from the OEMs in not planning ahead to bring aboard the technical engineering advancements necessary to incorporate LTE into their SoCs.

In either case the consumer (for a time) will be confronted with the choice of A15 based duocore or A9 based quadcore; although with faster GPUs likely within the ARM Cortex A15 SoCs (and possibly higher CPU frequencies) the choice could become 'moot'. And depending upon the specific design feature-sets incorporated into each of the OEMs chipsets.

Perhaps once the performance test-sets become more encompassing and "standardized" and with further empirical/historical data the enduser can better decide which platform suits their needs.

The consensus from our group (test engineers) being in favor of A15 based devices going forward while keeping a tech-eye on any hi-freq A9 quads (if not confined by LTE radios).

Personally our biggest issue is with OEMs producing devices with permanent cells (batteries). Road warriors and Power Users push limits and designing with non-removable batteries, IOHO, is just plain dumb.

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  • 2012-07-05 02:37
  • kAnJ

obviously samsung charm people in litle by little tweaks to hav market..now their in the stop point coz their little tweaks treaks cant do no more for demands..they hav gud facilities to manufacture chips,thats all they have, but they dont hav enough guts to ennovate their design..just copying again i think..hahahaha

..im in hongkong..no idea if the s3 lte version will come..so i bought s3 without lte for a while..i lyk spamoled ,but their ui is sncksss..!!!

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  • 2012-07-05 02:24
  • Px06

> In reply to TheMan @ 2012-07-04 21:27 from fqeK - click to readexynos LTE!they are not compatible with the frequency that U.S is using.

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  • 2012-07-05 01:58
  • v0qT

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