Droided, 26 Nov 20124.3 should run super smooth now and make WP look really laggy next to this 8 core super phone ... moreBad comment is bad. If it is really that smooth why does it need eight cores?
Im an android fan as well, but dumb comments like this makes the rest of us look as dumb as you.
With such specifications you can run any windows version on it or ubuntu...i think that is the time for Android to grow to a new level . 1) It must run faster than any over previous versions.2) Integrate an app such like microsoft office (pc like version) 3) Port linux apps , release new quality apps, and so on.. the new phones should be a replacement for the Pc's.
sdrawkcab, 26 Nov 2012This is false. Applications on a phone are not as intensive as applications on a full PC platf... moreGoogle could fix but the users aren't worried.
Quadcores with proper cache cleaning and regular factory resets fix the problem that's not really seen much anyway.
People should be running 4.3 and above on a custom as well. Should not be talking of lag if users are on anything less.
8 core in a cellphone? come guys really? i hope they at least make this thing with a 8000mah battery.
4.3 should run super smooth now and make WP look really laggy next to this 8 core super phone and show people the power of Android is
really the smoothest OS out there!
I'm in for this ZTE guys, I have an HOX+, but looks like
with this on a custom ROM root access and overclocked
will make my friends single core lumia 900 so laggy!
sdrawkcab, 26 Nov 2012This is false. Applications on a phone are not as intensive as applications on a full PC platf... moreWell said. People really are silly believing that just because Android multitasks or has more features, it is laggier and slower. OS like MeeGo or Symbian also multitask awesomely, have no limitations like iOS or WP, yet remain faster and smoother than Android on much low end hardware. Android's RAM usage also remains high, with 1GB RAM not enough for keeping open even 10 apps, while OS like Symbian and MeeGo can go up to 50/35 apps with just 512MB RAM/1GB.
Android has a messed up core that needs redesigning, but Google doesn't want to optimize because there's all the advanced hardware available to mask the problems now, like quad-core processors and 2GB RAM. That is why I am rooting for Sailfish OS and even Firefox, which are open source, fast, not built on a virtual machine slowing them down, etc.
Android fanboys need to stop blindly following the OS, otherwise Google will continue with not optimizing the OS.
Yea, i've said it b4 n say it again now Android is the best option we have now simply cos there ain't any better alternatives! We, the customers are not exactly spoilt for choice in terms of smartphone OSes and the choices we have seem to come with caveats - the monopolist i0S approach, the more open but high specs demanding Android approach and the nascent brick n tile WP approach and all of them are far, far from being perfect and have a lotta work 2 do in the future! Android is the most popular by virtue of the wide variety n relative openness it offers, but the flip side is you need top gear 2 run it at full throttle! There's no ultimate mobile OS at present, just as there is no ultimate mobile phone/device!
sdrawkcab, 26 Nov 2012This is false. Applications on a phone are not as intensive as applications on a full PC platf... moreI totally agree with you but its still the best os to use on any platform, it may be power hungry but I would rather that than the painfully boring and restricted ios, windows phones are not quite there yet either, maybe in another 18 months but I am not yet willing to make the jump to an os I think is still in a beta form .
m86k, 26 Nov 2012It's not only about running the OS.
IT's about multitasking and varying usages.
IOS focu... moreThis is false. Applications on a phone are not as intensive as applications on a full PC platform. They do not require 8-cores to perform, regardless of multitasking being enabled or not. ARM based processors are not that intensive that they need 4, or even 8 cores to perform efficiently. Developers at Google coded Android poorly, hence, the reason it performs sluggish on 4-Core CPUs. Project Butter was their attempt to hide this performance by using more juice from the GPU, which does NOT solve the problem, it hides it. In turn, what this will do is, use more processing power from the GPU to make the OS seem as fluid as WP, or iOS devices. What will this cause? The same problem they created by trying to set a standard for manufacturers to use more powerful CPU's to compensate for their lack of proper mobile OS development; higher spec'd GPUs. That's the only outcome of Project Butter. What this does, is force manufactures to make more powerful GPUs, driving the cost of their phones up, due to development and research expenses. This is not a theory I am debating with you, it is a fact and it is not up for debate.
Read those articles and weep! The info is straight from Google's mouth! Google is going about this the easy way, on their part. But, doing things this way will result in unnecessarily costs for the consumer. It will affect us, and put more money into the pockets of manufacturers, all because of Google's lackadaisical approach to properly dealing with a matter that is software related, and not hardware related. Google is trying to compensate for their shuddy OS development coding by jamming higher specs into the phone to try to achieve or rival the performance of other mobile OS's that work just as good as Android on only half the specs. Think about that carefully.
This creates another majorly negative thing for consumers. Consumers will get caught up in the "spec race" and compare phone specs on devices that do not require such high specs to get the same job done. They're already doing it. They're saying WP8 phones only have dual-core processors, like iPhones and that makes them inferior. Well, the truth is, they're not inferior, because the OS is so well coded, they DO NOT require such high internal specs to get the same job done. In fact, it actually reflects on how badly coded Android is. It's a shame that Android needs such processing power to achieve the work other OSs running half the specs do. And what do you think this will do to the competition? Because consumers who don't know better get caught up in this spec war, phones that do not even need such high specs will be fitted with them anyway, just to compete. This results in phone prices going up unnecessarily...all because a multi-billion dollar company couldn't sit patiently and make a more efficient mobile OS.
Again, these are facts and facts cannot be disputed. This is not speculation, supposition, or theory; it's cold, hard facts! The only people to suffer from this at the end of the day, is the consumer (you and I). So keep congratulating Google on their half-assed job and ogle over these high-spec'd phones. Good luck!
Software engineers at Google need to sit down, and put in some serious work to make their OS more resource friendly on phone hardware. This can be reversed if Google acts now and gets the PR work out for damage control. But, if they continue in this direction, the problem will become worse, at our expense. This is not something consumers should be happy about.
leak cheang, 26 Nov 20128 cores ? I think only laptop and tablet need this . my Xperia arc s run by single core is ... moreLike Apple the focus should be on increasing the number of GPU cores, in conjuction with faster CPU chipsets. A lot of apps currently do not utilise the power 4 cores let alone 8. But I suppose they will because they can.
1>2>4>8>16>32>64>128>256>512>1024>2048>4096>n so on after 10 years... cpu cores in mobile phones doubles after every year... NO LIMITS.... also screen size will become more than screen in computers but still it will fit in ur pockets... lol... NO LIMITS... battery will last 1 minute after complete charge while charging will take a complete day...
8 cores ? I think only laptop and tablet need this . my Xperia arc s run by single core is still running well , why 8 cores ?
muz, 26 Nov 2012Yes, because apparently how many cores they put in their phones it will always lag behind iPho... moreIt lags behind iPhone and Windows, yet the vast majority of smartphones have Android as their OS. Must be quite bad!!
Anonymous, 26 Nov 2012No live wallpaper, splitscreen etc etc etc... like in android or their desktop version. So don... moreWindows phone is like a free version of apps because very limited and windows desktop is pro version of apps. the phone version is Far away from multi tasking. Thats why they dont need multi of cores. *Limited*