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HTC Touch Diamond gets GSM 850MHz with a custom ROM update

18 July, 2008 | Read the news | Post your comment
HTC Touch Diamond gets GSM 850MHz with a custom ROM update - read the full textThanks to some ingenious developer GSM 850MHz band is now unlocked for use on the HTC top-of-the-shelf Touch Diamond. Obviously hardware support...

 

I love the look of the Touch Diamond (especially the touch diamond pro as I NEED a KB)...but was so bloody disappointed when HTC decided to make these "Region" specific devices, as I do a lot of travelling now and like being able to go a country i'm visiting, buying a prepaid SIM, and plopping it into my device without having to think about what band I need (like with my present HTC Prophet Qtek S200). This is great news though and gives me a glimer of hope.

If however, as the article says, can activate the dormant 3G bands (if they are indeed dormant) i will be a very very VERY happy mofo!

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  • 2008-07-20 15:54
  • kxDV

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2008-07-20 04:43 from 4qC2you saw the Dark Night?? man i'm dying to see it.....the first one was amazing!!! and the tubes in it? noway man nice

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  • 2008-07-20 08:32
  • nTS0

> In reply to John @ 2008-07-19 11:06 from 47%VThank you John

Its always nice to know that in this arena of false, petty and down right stupid comments. There is someone who actually knows something about telecommunications and the reason they are how they are.

Its a breath of fresh air :D

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  • 2008-07-20 08:21
  • v0gj

> In reply to John @ 2008-07-19 11:06 from 47%VAbout frequency bands: the lower the frequency the longer the wavelenght so is easier to penetrate trought walls. that's why high frequencies are often used for what is called micro cell layer (small coverage areas), however, lower frequencies are used for macro layers (more coverage).

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  • 2008-07-20 08:11
  • paGn

> In reply to John @ 2008-07-19 11:06 from 47%VI didn't think the issue was radio energy. the lower the frequency the longer the wave length so the steel reinforcing in the concrete acts less like a faraday cage.

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  • 2008-07-20 04:51
  • vkTs

hey everyone just for the info the new nokia touch screen is coming out soon and trust me guys the phone is hot its just banging . you can see it in the batman movie .its just amazing

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  • 2008-07-20 04:43
  • 4qC2

lol, great comment John. Pretty informative to say the least!

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  • 2008-07-20 04:12
  • 0HGr

I knew it, just look at the way the report is written. These reviewers and reporters at the GSMarena are simply bias. This device is so flawed it makes the iPhone 3G look like a perfect machine.

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  • 2008-07-20 02:44
  • TIEh

Ya 850Mhz has WAY better penetration then 1900. Because the waves of 1900 are very close together compared to 850, therefore the signal has to travel through so much more "wall" as its going up and down way more times then the 850 has to go though in the same "wall". I know thats a very simple way of describing it its true.

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  • 2008-07-19 22:15
  • 46a7

> In reply to John @ 2008-07-19 11:06 from 47%VHigher freq doesnt mean better penetration... Higher freq. is ok.. but the wave lenght wud be less... Hence the carry of the waves wud be less... Networks with higher freq need to have higher density of towers man, for that 'better penetration'... you check out physics, chemistry or whatever...

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  • 2008-07-19 18:12
  • utk7

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2008-07-18 20:49 from jJeein response to the sluggishness try updating the rom. htc updated the rom to deal with the sluggishness and make it snappier.

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  • 2008-07-19 11:57
  • 4vsi

The guy who said that 850MHz has better penetration through buildings needs to brush on his physics. The higher the frequency of a wave, the more energy and thus, better penetration through walls. That's why they use really thick concrete and lead in nuclear bunkers. Therefore, in city conditions higher frequency (1900MHz for GSM operators) is preferred. In rural conditions on the other hand, lower frequency waves are preferred, because waves with really long wavelengths (low frequency) can follow the landscape. That and the legacy from Cingular on the West Coast are the reasons AT&T use 850MHz still. And since T-Mobile doesn't have network at certain areas in the US, their users roam on ATT network there, and therefore need 4 band phones. It was allocated for cellular use back in the 80s, so talking about how new, or how old it is is really irrelevant.

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  • 2008-07-19 11:06
  • 47%V

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2008-07-18 23:02 from kxgX850 is the newer/better frequency for gsm, not an outdated one. You get better building penetration with 850. Thanks for trying though

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  • 2008-07-19 07:09
  • Y1UP

basically the 850 band gives u a wider coverage area.
especially indoors, that 850 gives u better coverage.
used to have triband motorola razr v3x. would lose signals inside big buildings. swithced to quad band phones, great coverage even when indoors.

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  • 2008-07-19 06:23
  • qp3r

Is it not time International standards were made mandatory by all the countries to include Quad band and Triband HSDPA on all the newer mobile phones which boast of 3G. It is after all not that costly. China made battery charging through USB mandatory a long time ago. I think governments should understand the hand in glove connivance of mobile telephone operators and mobile phone manufacturers to fleece people and make them buy newer and multiple phones and multiple connections in this global age of seamless roaming across continents. This is to be taken up by all.

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  • 2008-07-19 04:23
  • ijKf

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2008-07-18 22:52 from iZ2iThat's if your carrier has 850mz bands tho... AT&T & Rogers are fine, but if you are on T-Mobile and Fido, it's not important. But this "custom ROM update" does get better battery life so why not =P

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  • 2008-07-19 03:03
  • Ycp1

Thanks for the replies and the explanation. It's nice to know that upgrading that 850mhz to my phone can give me better coverage in some areas. But I really have no issues with signal at all, but more on the phone's performance, but oh well, it's not really that bad. I observed that it freezes up or slows down when you move your finger/stylus fast, you have to take your sweet time with this phone to avoid getting freezed.

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  • 2008-07-19 02:32
  • jJee

'all the more shinier' wouldve been a better note to end with.

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  • 2008-07-18 23:43
  • k1er

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2008-07-18 19:35 from jJeeThere are still some areas where GSM 850 is active in North America. Much of the populated areas in the populated United States are still using this older band. While most GSM has been upped to 900, the 850 is still being used by carriers like ATT Wireless. This helps unlock more range for the Diamond and should improve signal strength but it wont unlock the 3g network

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  • 2008-07-18 23:02
  • kxgX

> In reply to Anonymous @ 2008-07-18 19:35 from jJeeYou might be using the 1900Mhz frequency band, but with the added 850Mhz band, you will have more coverage overall.Regards

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  • 2008-07-18 22:52
  • iZ2i

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