Samsung has certainly used good strategy! First have your own OS and develop it. Then create a name for oneself in the Windows based mobile phone segment. Become the top 3 mobile manufacturer and then even out the playing field with the No.1 in the market by competing with it on similar terms!
The latest S60 based 'INNOV8' is so slow and carefully calibrated attack on Nokia's No. 1 position and its latest model the N96.
some1 neutral, 27 Jul 2008Hello, to those who are boasting nokia getting 40% market share. Know your facts right, do you... moreFor u r information Nokia's low end phones are pure crap just compare this to any SAMSUNG/LG/SE phone they all got better build quality and SAMSUNG had best keypad in low/mid segment Nokia N95's sales was way higher than Apple crap phone or any other SE phone even buisness segment Phone were own by Nokia Samsung recently started making good buisness phone SE P-series failed to be successful dont think i m SE hater i'm telling fact SE do makes great phone so there is no question that which brand is best all been good and some bad.
Some1 Neutral, 27 Jul 2008SYMBIAM IS NOT OWN BY NOKIA. symbiam is a software company own by all the 5 mobile phone manuf... moreOh genius pls forgive me do u think i'm non-sense or i'm stup id Nokia own's 49% Symbian Nokia plays very important role in developing S60 platform for phones other companies like SE, Motorola are investing in Symbian UIQ beside ERICSSON the major portion of Symbian S60 owned by FUJITSU, SAMSUNG and SIEMENS (not sure about siemens) oh if Nokia don't alone own S60 than tell me who is providing Symbian S60 to LG electronics who even don't have share in Symbian also When u will bring SAMSUNG SYMBIAN phone browse phone for information about OS it clearly written by SAMSUNG THAT Symbian S60 is LICENCED UNDER NOKIA NOKIA CONNECTING PEOPLE IS TRADE MARK OF NOKIA CORPORATION thats written on SAMSUNG i550 a Symbian based phone.
Some1 Neutral, 27 Jul 2008SYMBIAM IS NOT OWN BY NOKIA. symbiam is a software company own by all the 5 mobile phone manuf... moreWhy are you flip floping about Nokia's relationship with Symbian?. On one hand you say it was equally owned with other companies, which is false anyway as Nokia owned 48% of that company before its recent buy out of the 52% it didn't own.....
SYMBIAM IS NOT OWN BY NOKIA. symbiam is a software company own by all the 5 mobile phone manufacturer each with equal amount of shareholding. only recently nokia decides to buy all the shares but at the same time alliance with the other 4 mobile phone manufacturer namely samsung lg SE and moto to share the future software by symbiam.
Hello, to those who are boasting nokia getting 40% market share. Know your facts right, do you know a buck of it, or rather i can gladly say 50% of these sales are sold to developing countries where the phone is selling at practically $0 with contract. Samsung and SE market share are largely from premium phone. Look at their average selling price, nokia phone average selling price is around USD $80 while samusn average selling price is at USD $ 130. since innov8 is a prem phone, dont your think that by comparing market share is just like comparing apple to orange.
Flames, 26 Jul 2008It may be manufactured by Sony but it's in who's product?. Why couldn't they install it in the... moregeez...sony doesn't own carl zeiss. It's a company that produces optics. They have a contract with sony with their digicams as nokia with their mobile phone. And have you've seen death match camphone between N95 and samsung soul? I think Soul came out on top.
Anonymous, 26 Jul 2008Don't speak as if nokia's making their own optics for their mobilephone. It's carl zeiss for g... moreIt may be manufactured by Sony but it's in who's product?. Why couldn't they install it in their own phones then???. Why licence a product to your competitor when you can't make your phone cameras as good as the competitor you licenced your product to?. I admit though that Nokia lost the 3.2mp war (the K800i's camera was better than the N73's) but certainly not the 5mp war and let's see how the 8mp war transpires.......
Flames, 26 Jul 2008I asked you to dispute whether there is a superior alternative to the N95 8GB or the N82's cam... morebro read my comments i never said anything about plastics? i only said the haedphones are cheap and that i don like the Music qualtiy of my N95 8GB thats because i had a N73 before and it had better quality...bro i'm a huge nokia fanatic...i'm like on every symbian fourm i've had tons of wars with my fiends and i've defended nokia to the end....i never said nokias bad i love it....but i'm just saying this phones pretty cool too....you've also got a N95 8Gb right? imagine you got this phone the i8510...its pretty close to our N95 8GB right...black...symbian...slider... but i love the dual slide function on the N95 and i love the rubber feel at the back....bro why you fighting with me? i'm a nokia fan too.....
@Jahcre......lollll yea the markets really gonna heat up!!! man finally some action in the mobile world....things kinda settled for a while
Oh and Flames bro you know the N96 is still amazing.....heres a comment i would say if i was mad or angry at SE or Samsung:
Samsung and SE have to make 8MP phones with super technology like 3d sound just to compete with N96...The N96 could still win even though its the underdowg and you know i personnaly love the N96 look....its shinny and flowing....i've been saying up for it for a long time...
Later guys!! keep chillin!!!
Flames, 26 Jul 2008I asked you to dispute whether there is a superior alternative to the N95 8GB or the N82's cam... moreDon't speak as if nokia's making their own optics for their mobilephone. It's carl zeiss for goodness sake same optics sony uses on their digicam. Give credit, where credit is due.
Zylam, 26 Jul 2008Theres no doubt that the i8510 and C905 are major phones, both have great potential to be best... moreI asked you to dispute whether there is a superior alternative to the N95 8GB or the N82's camera capabilities despite the fact that SE/Samsung also manufacture digital cameras, and you still can't do that. Instead you resort to calling Nokia king of plastics. Well that's your opinion, its not as if other cellphone manufacturers use chrome or gold when making their phones, besides statistics don't lie (NOKIA has 40% global market share). So why do people keep buying the plastic phones then?, have you ever asked yourself that?. Untill recently which SE/SAmsung phone could you compare to the N Series line up?. I even admited that the i8510 is a very good phone..
Listen to you all people!
Its just a f#cking mobile phone that were discussing here!
Thank GOD this is not a nuclear warfare forum or else someone's have already been blown away!
Jahcre, 26 Jul 2008I'm waiting2c Nokia's reply2da 8mp boyz!When dey do da 8mp boyz won't worry cuz da replacement... more"elease da smoke...The fyah still2cum ppl!" lolll nice line bro!! your right once these babies nit the shelves its gonna be a death match!!! loll!!! who knows whats next a heater and cooler phone with water filter!! loll!!!
Duh plastic phones what do u mean by that i don't see any SE phone made of gold, silver and platinum they seem to be plastic too by the way Nokia is kid when it comes to semiconductor if compared to SAMSUNG but SAMSUNG is kid compared Nokia when it comes to OS thats why Samsung is using Nokia's SYMBIAN OS S60v3 even they have used same Nokia web browser since they cannot use name Nokia they have named browser as SAFARI (apples mac) web Browser yeh i do admit that SAMSUNG has best build quality and most comfortable keypad as far as display concern everyone knows Samsungs reputation altough Nokia borrows LCD from Samsung, SHARP and TOSHIBA they have great quality too.
Flames , 26 Jul 2008What's so shocking about the Nokia N95 8gb and the N82 being kings of the 5mp camera phone seg... moreI'm waiting2c Nokia's reply2da 8mp boyz!When dey do da 8mp boyz won't worry cuz da replacements gonna shut Nokia up4sure!SE leading da way.B a human&admit it!Play catch up Nokia&da rest.Nokia fans r so corny!I give props2go fones.Samsung got a sweet cell2compete wit SE!I'M a SE fan.SE will b da brand2beat!Look out market...Things now getting warm!SE jus release da smoke...The fyah still2cum ppl!
Theres no doubt that the i8510 and C905 are major phones, both have great potential to be best sellers and i'm sure just as everyday devices both these phones will be great to just mess around with and they look like they have good quality built and they should easily a couple of years and Nokia's are also great i'm a fan myself i'm generally happy with my N95 8GB but there a some drawbacks even in the latest phones like i hate the music qualtiy of N95 man my N73 had better qualty not to mention the cheap headphones they give you but i guess its all cool cause i;m happy with it but!!! nokia really have taken ages to get the N96 out!! i mean whats the wait for man?? the C902 and i8510 are probably gonna majorly affect its sales.....some people here are right that Nokia has a major market share and these two phones won't break it because theres so many nokia's out there each is great for its purpose in one day but Nokia's thing was being on top...they always had more to offer The N73 had bigger screen, better speackers than the K800i, the N95 had Wifi..GPS...Bigger screen than the K850i and this really is the first time Nokia's behind!! you know i'm just getting the feeling that just like the C905 and i8510 leaked we could see a Nokia 8MP leak...whos knows it may even leak the day the N96 is released....but whatever happens....no matter how many features the phone packs one thing never changes....WE ALWAYS HAVE WAR!!! BRING IT ON!!! lolll!!!