so they werent able to apply this RAM to s5 or Note 4 coz there werent 64bit.. heres to hoping that this comes in s6 (fingers crossed) :)
menegator, 31 Dec 2013Guys, the need of RAM in android is not because android is badly written. It is a design decis... moreVery good comment. One note, not all task killers in Android work the same way, where some task killers don't automatically kill all tasks and list tasks (oldest idle first) allowing the user to "uncheck" which tasks will be killed (a number of task killers also exclude critical OS and applications from the kill list).
Anonymous, 31 Dec 2013You can use 4 GB of RAM with 32bitchips as well. More than 4 GB you cant adress to 32 bit. Tha... moreYou can access more then 4GB on intel hardware if using 32 bit architecture but it is done in a different way. I don't know about ARM architecture.
TrinYa, 31 Dec 2013WHAT A BS !! You're speaking reverse, the question here is not 64-bit, it is about 4GB, and to... moreYou can use 4 GB of RAM with 32bitchips as well. More than 4 GB you cant adress to 32 bit. That's one of benedits of 64 bits.Seems this days people read something on third hand sites on the net and think they are technologically omniscient.
UCGILL, 30 Dec 2013Yeah samsung plz do release a phone with 4 Gb ram coz your note 3 with 3 gigs of ram lags and ... morehow about you actually go buy a note3 and use it, also, perhaps get a good dictionary while you're at it.
Guys, the need of RAM in android is not because android is badly written. It is a design decision. Apps are executed in a virutal machine (Dalvik) and each app is assigned to an instance. When you are done with the app, OS suspends it in RAM so when you need it again, you don't have to reinitialize it. When RAM usage goes up to a limit, then the OS frees RAM by ending the oldest not used applications. That's why task killers do a bad thing and that's why you see minute amounts of free RAM even on smartphones with 2Gb or 3Gb or RAM. Unused RAM in android world is BAD. The more RAM is given to android for USE IT the more responsive the phone will be.
What is changed on 4.4 is that the first time you install an application, dalvic will convert it to native machile language code. So the installation will take more time but in the same time running the app will be faster and you won't have to keep all the applications in RAM.
TrinYa, 31 Dec 2013When I'm saying that you need a 64-bit chip to address 4 GB, I'm saying it in general terms. Y... moreNope. Using PAE 32bit processors can handle directly RAM sizes > 4Gb. PAE is not a trick, is a hardware characteristic. That been said in 32bit OSES the limit per process is indeed 4Gb and thus you cannot mmpap() more than this size but then again on mobile phones or tablets you don't really care.
menegator, 31 Dec 2013No, you really don't. A15 can handle directly up to 1Tb RAM. Read about 32bit processors and P... moreWhen I'm saying that you need a 64-bit chip to address 4 GB, I'm saying it in general terms. You can do 512-bit calculations in 32-bit chip or any size for that matter, but all those things u're referring to are techniques used by the OS, not directly by hardware.
Uh..I think you are talking about iOS not about this Sammy one beacuse ios7 64 bit doesn't have any supports from developers but Android supports 64 bit+4GB RAM would be real deal. and camera apps crash on iphones (I've never heard of android camera crash on Note 3) and games and apps crashes more often on ios7 because they don't support 64 bit please stop faking for god sake.Noob!
P.S-like really? their features don't work well? but on my Note 10.1 2014 ver. even on wifi version they work flawlessly. So please!
TrinYa, 31 Dec 2013WHAT A BS !! You're speaking reverse, the question here is not 64-bit, it is about 4GB, and to... moreNo, you really don't. A15 can handle directly up to 1Tb RAM. Read about 32bit processors and PAE.
The limiting of addressing 4Gb of 32 bit processors with PAE applies *ONLY* to windows 32 bit versions. Linux and other OSes can handle directly MORE than 4Gb. The limit of 4Gb at 32bit OS (other than windows 32bit) is per PROCESS and not for the OS itself.
YuYu Alsalmi, 30 Dec 2013Great that's a good job by Samsung
I hope they come up with a 64bit quad core 2.5Gz @20nm
o... more64 bit and Android still can't support it yet?!!! Developers barely supports snapdragon 800 and games still lags on Note 3 like S&^%$ plus camera crash and some Samsung gimmick apps doesn't work as it should even though with 3GB of ram!
It's all about OS and optimization it's not about massive hardware that can't take advantage of software
Anonymous, 30 Dec 2013Its not a necessity to have 4 Gb of RAM for 64 bit chips. It just is a benefit from it. Other ... moreWHAT A BS !! You're speaking reverse, the question here is not 64-bit, it is about 4GB, and to use 4 GB you definitely need 64-bit chip, that is what I was saying. People can't even read properly these days