utk, 21 Sep 2010I know that. I said that in context to the reading speed required to play high quality videos.... moreAs far as i know nokia 5233 and nokia 5228 are the same. The number 5228 was given so that people don't get the idea that nokia 5233 has got more features than nokia 5230.
Since you have got a laptop with high speed internet, i guess you don't need 3g. So taking nokia 5233 would be beneficial. And you must not forget the fact that nokia 5233 has got the coolest modified firmware among other s60v5.
SidewindeR, 21 Sep 2010Ok that wold mean a faster read speed as well right?First i would like to tell you that utk and i are friends since quite a long time (through gmail). I asked the exact same question as yours to him a few months back and he gave me a very clear concept. Now instead of saying what he told me, i will explain it through my understanding using an example.
Lets say that you have 2 houses (of same size) and one of them has 10 rooms (rooms are small) and the other has 5 rooms (rooms are comparatively bigger). Lets say there is one tv in each house (lets say you don't know how many). Now, if you were asked to find the tv in the 10 room house then you will have no choice but to search all the 10 rooms to be sure that you get the tv as well as to be sure that there is no other tv in the house. On the other hand, if you were asked to do the same in the 5 room house, you would definately need lesser time to finish searching than the one with 10 rooms.
File allocation is the same thing as rooms. Lesser the file allocation size, lesser the size of the rooms hence more the number of rooms hence more the required time. A mobile while searching for gallery files, has to search all the 'rooms' in the memory card so that it finds all the files. So its obvious that if the phone had lesser 'rooms' to search then it would have had finished the searching in lesser time. So if you increase the file allocation size twice then the number of 'rooms' will decrease to half and hence the phone will finish searching the files in about half the time.
You have to add a little of your existing concept into this to fully understand the topic. Hope you understand what i just wrote.
utk, 21 Sep 2010Technically a larger allocation unit size means faster speeds.Ok that wold mean a faster read speed as well right?
Sbdevilmind, 21 Sep 2010Memory card is benchmarked not by the reading capabilities but by the writing. Then only an en... moreI know that. I said that in context to the reading speed required to play high quality videos.
Anyways going to buy 5233 or 5230 or 5228(If available here) today for my mother(in other words for me..lol).
Wow... Thank u guys for enlightning me on that issue. I guess I can confidently go on and reconvert my Avatar BRrip to 2mbps and see what happens. And one more thing you experts. Does the allocation size of a memory card have anything to do with the phone's overall performance. It's because just the other day, i found out that by default the phone quick formats my 8Gb card with FAt32 file system and 32kb allocation unit size. I read that higher allocation unit size would speed up transfer rates and makes the card much faster but the negative side being wastage of space. Anyway I full formated my card on PC using 64kb as the default allocation size. and also reflashed my phone's firmware. After that I transferred the same files and reinstalled all the necessary softwares. But to my surprise, now the gallery has become blazingly fast. i have about 700 3.2mp images (which i too for my college tour with my friend's n73) and before formatting, it took me ages to get the gallery opened. But now everything is much much faster.
I'm not sure if it is the new allocation size or because I reflashed my firmware. Any guess guys? Also before doing the format I thought that the loss of space would be too much if I used 64kb but to my surprise, the only loss with almost a full 8GB card with mostly mp3's and videos and a few apps is like 80MB which is quite acceptable for me considering it's only 1% of wasted space.
utk, 21 Sep 2010For class 6 the given 6 MBps is not the average data transfer rate, its the average write spee... moreMemory card is benchmarked not by the reading capabilities but by the writing. Then only an end user would be sure that his device would find no problems in writing datas in time constrained situations for eg, writing raw video data into the memory card while newer video data is getting piled up to be written. If this flow is restrained then either the camera or the device will crash. I already know that a class 2 memory card can give a read speed of upto 3-4MBps. I was just clarifying his misunderstandings about the video bitrate to data transfer interrelations. I was hoping to get a part of other's understanding for eg, you, on my opinion. Do you agree to what i said earlier. Come on man. This is how people share their discoveries. Cheers.
Sbdevilmind, 21 Sep 2010The settings you gave is good but it not optimum as you said. I have mingled with video conver... moreFor class 6 the given 6 MBps is not the average data transfer rate, its the average write speed. The reading speeds can be as high as 20 MBps and averages around 15 MBps.
sun, 20 Sep 2010Hi,
im thanksfull if you give info on how to convert video to watch in 5233 in m... moreHere is the settings i use for my videos.
I suggest you use 'any video converter' or 'total video converter' or (the best free video converter) i.e 'Format Factory'. I use format factory. The settings are as follows.
1. Video codec: divx or xvid
2. Audio codec: aac
3. Video bitrate: 1000 kbps or less (if size conscious) or upto 3mbps (if quality conscious)
4. Audio bitrate: 128 kbps or more
5. Resolution: 640x360
6. Frame rate: default
7. Aspect ratio: 16:9
8. Container: mp4
note: divx or xvid video codec has nothing to do with divx or xvid video format. Any question regarding the settings are welcome.
SidewindeR, 20 Sep 2010Ok mate here's the settings that I use with Total video converter which i believe is the optim... moreThe settings you gave is good but it not optimum as you said. I have mingled with video converters and conversion settings for more than 2 months for the best settings for my previous nokia 5130XM. I learned a lot during that, so i would like to share what i did.
First, you are wrong that lower class memory card might result in slow video playback. Have you ever checked the bitrate of the videos that were recorded by the phone's camera? They are of 2700kbps. I use a class 2 4gb card, still these videos play without any lag whatsoever. Usually a class 2 memory card is capable of playing videos at bitrate as high as 10mbps or more. Now you might be thinking that i have surely gone nuts, right? Don't worry, i will explain myself. As you might already know that the class numbers in the memory card predict the average data transfer rate. For example in a class 4 memory card, the data transfer is of 4MBps average and similarly in class 6 it will be 6MBps average. Now you also know that there is a huge difference between kbps and KBps i.e kilo bits per second and kilo bytes per second respectively. The same goes for mbps and MBps. The speed i am talking about in the memory card is MBps not mbps. Now, a video of bitrate 800kbps will give a data transfer of 100KBps. Since 8bit = 1byte. So just in order to get to the maximum data transfer rate of a class 2 memory card i.e 2MBps, the video bitrate should be as high as 2X8 = 16mbps. Now thats crazy. So, a class 2 memory card can never slow a video down.
Anonymous, 20 Sep 2010plz tell me where can I get Dz music key signed version....There is no signed version of djmusic key on the internet. You will have to sigh the application yourself. For that, get yourself a certificate and key from s60certkey. Don't go to Opda, they are too slow. After you get them, contact me again here.
Anonymous, 20 Sep 2010Mate is there any prob to ear by usinga inear earphone like creative ep630 ??will it cause any... moreNah it wont affect your health as long as you don't use too much volume. Infact, it is much better than using inear buds as you don't have to turn up the volume in public noisy places to mask out the ambient noise. The noise isolation provided by inear earphones actually prevents you from listening to music at high volumes and as long as the earphone can deliver almost the same sound output levels in different conditions, there is no problems in using an inear earphone like the ep-630. The rule is better the noise isolation, the lower the volume needed.
shane65, 20 Sep 2010so wat ur saying iis dat maps application is optional and has to be installed manually..alrite... moreYes.. maps is optional in 5233. It does however work in offline mode too if you have all the map files copied in your memory card. Network based positioning also works as well in offline mode.
utk, 20 Sep 2010Good, I was under the impression that you would never abandon LG. lol Nah I haven't abandoned it actually. I still love my GM200. It served me well the whole time I used it. But this was something I could'n resist especially for a geek like me. There is so much I could do to keep me fully engaged. The reason I don't visit GM200 anymore is because I've got nothing more to give as i don't use it anymore. Still miss it sometimes especially that badass sound. I think that's the only weakness of this phone over my LG.
sun, 20 Sep 2010Hi,
im thanksfull if you give info on how to convert video to watch in 5233 in m... moreOk mate here's the settings that I use with Total video converter which i believe is the optimal video encoding settings.
Video container format : mp4
Video codec : mpeg4 (not mpeg4 avc or h.264)
Frame rate : Original or system default
Video resolution : 640x360
Video bitrate : 700kbps
Audio : AAC
Audio bitrate : 80kbps stereo
Aspect ratio : Normal
And btw I use a 8GB class6 micro SD card. So there is a possibility for the video to lag if played from a slower speed card. In that case, just decrease the video bitrate to 600kbps.
Anonymous, 20 Sep 2010in mobile9 dz music key is unsigned, plz help me i need it.but my phn iz unhackedOk mate in that case just give me your email. I'll send you the free signer app. Just install it and self sign the unsigned app you want to install.
SidewindeR, 20 Sep 2010Oh yeah now I remember. Gave my GM200 to my sister when my brother bought me this phone. Infac... moreMate is there any prob to ear by usinga inear earphone like creative ep630 ??will it cause any irritation after a long use ??
wat is d best custom made equalizer setting with gud quality music and ludness wid bass offcourse?
utk, 20 Sep 2010No. So I guess you managed to swap your phone with your brother's or still using the older one?I persuaded my brother into buying this set. And since he is an office guy who hasn't got time to mingle with this phone, i gave mine to him and took his set. So the whole day i get to use it. At night when i am studying, he listens to songs or watches videos in this set. Its very convenient.