I avoid SE too!! WIth that experience 4 years ago with a t226 I turned back to Nokia and since that time I´m still with Nokia and want another of its products (5700 or 6120c). Yeah I know that SE build quality is much worse than nokia (since I had the t226 and even with a friend with a less than a year old w810 that is very scratched and it lacks the battery cover).
Well I´m still a young person (I´m 17) and I never get bored of my 6230. Personally I don´t go for SE anymore because their W series phones are minded for young people but few months latter after the release of a W series phone they are seen in almost every corner and I prefer a more-original handset (that not everyone has). The worst is that every handset manufactured by SE has the same UI since 4 years ago and they are expensive for what they offer (in my country w880 is 60 U$ more expensive than 5700 and I prefer the last one a thousand more times for what it offers over w880)
Unfortunately receiving files directly to the memory card is NOT possible with 6230. That feature came out with the release of series 40 version 3 (s40v3) whereas 6230 is series 40 version 2. 6230 was the first Nokia to implement the s40v2 operating system and the best phone with that operating system.
you cant just avoid SE altoghether? thats abit biast i mean when i had 6230 i never knew for 1 second i would buy the W850i but since im 16 yrs old i slowly got bored of 6230 so then i just got the W850i and Dream Phone had come True! i still Use NOKIA and always WILL use Nokia !
its about taste i soppose!
I've had this fone for a while now.Great fone!Very durable.
Does anyone know how to recieve files via infra red or bluetooth directly to the memory card?
To DANI & LUIS:
The SE phones I'm talking about are T310, T610 and P800. Both the T310 and T610 both had joystick problems and some of the buttons didn't respond unless you pressed them hard. The P800 had some blackness at the bottom of the screen after it fell causing certain elements at the screen bottom not to be seen.
I visited the K750 forum a few times and one opinionist complained that his K750 fell and a permanent black line appeared in the middle of the screen. That reminded me so much of the P800 and I wasn't surprised. From my personal experiences and others I have read I know that SE phones lack durability and reliabilty. I just see the build quality as being poor.
I admit, those phones are from yesteryear but in recent times a friend of mine had a W810 and it fell in water or water caught it some other way and it stopped working so even the newer models still have their problems.
Based on these experiences I avoid SE at all costs. Furthermore, Nokia focuses more on the telephony department which IS the PRIMARY reason for buying a phone. SE focuses more on Multimedia which causes the telephony areas to lack.
The 6230 and the K700 were the BIGGEST RIVALS EVER in the mobile phone industry...reminds of of the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord. You will find MILLIONS of post about these two phones being compared to each other. The K700 was a turn off in the phonebook area and camera. The 6230 could store 1,000 contacts with all fields filled whereas the K700 could only store 510 items...which means if you filled all the fields you would only get 102 contacts. Compare 1,000 contacts to 102!!! The only advantage the K700 had was the video playback where it played AAC while the 6230 only supported AMR. That alone would NOT let me choose K700 over 6230.
The K700 died a long time ago BUT the 6230 still lives on today and will NEVER be forgotten.
Nokia and SE are both good in their own way!
they have their drawbacks which people will have to live with
i Love Nokia and SE in the same way
im NOT Biast :)
Yeah I never had problems with Nokias and for that reason I´ll stick to it again and again. I´m considering 5700 or 6120 because yesterday I sold my 4months old 6682 and I sold it because my cousin paid me 180 U$ (and that´s not bad for such used phone) not because the phone was bad. And I stiil keep 6230. I had bad experiences with SE but that was in 2005 with a t226 (the casing was very bad quality and the keypad characters were comming off after only 2 months and since that time I have nokias because they are more durable. And the interface looks he same like 4 years ago. I´m so happy to have bought this phone over the k700 2 years ago.
what models number were they? iv had my K800i for 2 years and NOT 1 with the Joystick and Software of SE is STABLE! i havent had 1 Hang from my K800i in 2 Years Yes 2 Years! my Nokia 6230i hanged nearly every day 6230 did rarely 6233 did hang but after firmware upgrade, im Loving my 6300 though its a Great phone ! cant live without it
Well in every case they were joystick problems and permanent blackness appeared in most of the screens due to the phone falling to the ground.
Hmmmm..what kind of problems did they have with SE phones?
I don't want any SE phones. I personally have had bad experiences with them as well as other family members and friends. I never had any sort of problems with any of my Nokias.
6230 is the best phone i have had !
Design and CandyBar
W850i dont have them....
i praise SE and Nokia the best Nokia phone iv owned is the 6230 ! just wish i never sold it i still LOVE Nokia phones to the max this is what i did since im a SONY fanboy and used Nokia phones i bought a SE just to see what there like and i Love my W850i but its my 2nd Phone my Main phone is now 6300 and i have 6230i/6233 still ..i still LOVE Nokia
You are right, the 6230 VGA camera is the absolute BEST.
Regardless of DANI (786) praising SE phones, he recently acquired a 6300 and loves it but somehow he feels the need to rate SE phones over all of Nokia phones. Worldwide sales record shows it as being the opposite though as Nokia is #1 in sales and SE is 3rd.
I absolutely love Nokia and plan to stick to it always.
I think that everyone has his/her own experiences with the brands. Dani has a good experience with SE w850i and I think it´s totally valid his opinion.
In my case I always had good experiences with nokia. Since my father when bought his first phone (5125) until these days having a 6682, a 6230 (my best phone), my sister having a 6131 and my mom a 6670 and 6230i. To put an example my preferred phone so far is 6230 because it never give me problems, I dropped like 100 times and still works like a charm, it doesn´t hang and the interface is very fast. The extras are good quality mp3 player ad vga camera (the best in my opinion between vga cameras).
But this 6230 is 4 years old and is logical that are better equipped phones these days like dani´s w850 or k800, 6500 slide to say some. But I still like this above others because its durability (I think that any of the newest phones can´t survive all the hits, crashes and even some splashes that my 6230 suffered). But maybe one day I´ll find another phone that deserves to outplace my current first place (6230) like dani or maybe not. I´m thinking on buy 6120c or 5700 cause I´m satisfied with s60 (6682)
my previous is me with the name *Dani*
anyway SE's are tough! as in their build quality is tough! my W850i has coped with being in water. fallen out of my bike while riding a bike! been in sand, been in water,been crushed, been squashed, been in ice,been in heat ..and it works like new!
and it has Walkman 2.0 and the 2MP camera beats Nokia kind off. battery life is 5-days.even with Walkman Multimedia!!!
dont worry OJ im still a Nokia Boy and will always own Nokia phones! and 1 Day Nokia might just number 1 for me.
thats why im embarassed the thing is iv owned a SE W850i since 2006 and till now it has given me NO Problems!! since i use my Phone for Multimedia Camera/Music etc SE win in those categorys! to tell the Truth SE make slightly better Phones in Multimedia then Nokia but Nokia are goood i use them to but not totally im still a Nokia User always will be Nokia always satisfy me, but most of that changed after i bought a SE W850i !
Please OJ Respect SE there such a good company honestly Nokia N-Series could never get to the level of SE Walkman and Cyber-shot iv tested a N95 and its nowere close to Cyber-shot/Walkman Phones!
i Know Nokia are the world leader and best selling phones in the world but come on? i soppose its about to taste i never knew SE would be that good
Nokia is still good in their own way!
heres your answer im embarrased !