That's fair enough mate, but I suppose it's just whatever is easier.
I definately agree about the 18 month contracts and how all the operators are basically forcing consumers into going for these over the 12 month contracts (slightly cheaper, loads more allowance, etc).
I think this is wrong and unfortunate, which is why I was so happy to find the deal I got.
I think this started to happen around a year ago (the "forcing" of 18 month contracts) when the operators realised years of subsidizing on the 12 month contracts wasn't getting them any money - and those extra six months means they finally profit - the first 12 are used to "pay off" the phone...
And I think over the years it will get worse - especially if people don't buy content (tones, MP3s, games, apps, etc) or add ons like Web Access.
Already you can see operators desperately trying to claw back profits - all 08 numbers are now charged - some of them excessively.
They are not included in your allowance and ALL of the operators charge for them - with O2, they charge up to 35p p/m with some 08 numbers, which I find disgusting considering most service numbers (to businesses, banks, ets) are 08's...
Hi m8, thanks for that reply. I know what you are saying about an 18 month contract and I wasn't over the moon about getting one, but it seems that they are all going that way no matter the network! :(
I did think about buying the phone and getting a £15 a month sim, but it would work out at £240 for the phone plus £15 month for the sim = £420 for 12 months.
As it stands I get the phone, 600 mins, 500 texts, unlimited O2-O2 calls and 512k web browsing for £360 (yes it's over 18 months) but broken down over 12 months it's £240.
Like I said before I tried to change it back to a 12 month deal, but they offered me 200 mins less and the price went from £20 a month to £25! When I said why less minutes and yet more cost, they said it's to do with the discount we can offer that is taken over from your last contract!!! Apparently my average monthly bill was £16.90 yet I was only paying £15 a month!
At the end of the day a new O2 customer would be paying £35 a month for the contract I'm paying £20 a month for, yes I'm not 100% happy it's an 18 month deal, but I'm sure there are people out there that would bite my arm off to get it for £20 a month!
I could have stayed on my 200 mins and 100 texts contract for £15 a month, but the free upgrades were cr*p, so for £5 a month more it works out I get the phone for £90 (over the 18 months) plus a load more mins and texts.
This 6500 is 10X better than the 8600 Luna ....at only half the price, no wonder Nokia call it classic!
great phone - just got it and no probs - except - how do you get rid of the stupid gallery at the bottom of thr screen when you are doing a text message. it really is annoying as i just want as much room as poss to see the text i am doing without any stupid gallery at the bottom. help
You'd have been better off rejecting O2s "generous" daylight-robbery offer, buying the 6500c sim-free and finding yourself a very good £15 p/m sim-only 12-month contract.
Basically, before parting your money with a contract, you should always do the "Am I paying more than the value of this phone?" test. It's the easiest way of working out if you are getting the best value for money - or for working out if you are being ripped off...
Yes, £18 is via cashback + additional instant cashback. Also, my phone is UNLOCKED. So it really is an excellent contract.
Cashback has worked for me over the past two years with no problems at all, and 30 minutes of my time three times a year (sending the claims off/cashing the cheques) is well worth saving £250 - that's over £165 an hour... Find me someone who earns that, because there isn't many.
Plus, I simply REFUSE 18 month contracts at all - it is too long to be lumbered with a phone which could at first seem great, but eventually shows its horrendous flaws after a while (like the utterly b0llocks Samsung D900). Plus 18 month contracts are all a rip off if you do your sums...
I only take 12 month contracts - and even though you are paying £25 per month on an 18 month contract without having the "trouble" of redemption, I'd much rather save myself £84 (over my 12 month contract) PLUS an additional 6 months @ £25 for the sake of sending a few bills recorded delivery three times a year...
18 month contracts are in fact very, very bad value for money too, even if they do try to (successfully) "trick" people into thinking that 50% more minutes compared to the 12 month contracts are "better" value.
18 months @ 25 = £450. The 6500c costs around £240 unlocked. You are being ripped off a MASSIVE £210 - even if they do offer you a "free" upgrade to mediocre phone, which will probably not be worth £210 either - hell, this could buy you another brand new phone. You have been robbed, seriously.
You'd have been better off rejecting O2s "generous" daylight-robbery offer, buying the 6500c sim-free and finding yourself a very good
@ Kev, yeah thanks for that, I did stumble on it after posting :)
@ b496, great input, bet you have loads of friends with an attitude like that! T*T :D
not sure what u mean by 'call volume' but if you mean ringtone volume u can : settings -> profile -> choose profile -> personalize.
On the other hand, if you mean the volume coming out of the earpiece when in a call it is: *When you are in a call* push the 'up' key on the d pad. If you have not modified this function, it's default volume is half way.. which is quite soft...it took me a while to find that =) Hope that helps!
sami - O2 are only saying that to fob you off and try and make you take a higher plan. unless the customer has been with O2 for the year previous as then it is a upgradge and worked out on a individual clients ARPU. just say you have a better deal with Vodafone and they will suddenly change their mind about the lowest tariff!
I have a question, I heard that if you don't have a botox-injected slouch bag that matches the battery cover of the phone, then you can't switch from T-9 to manual text entry without going back to the main menu. can someone help me out? thanks.
Just phoned O2 and told them about your tariff, they said that the cheapest they could do that deal for with a free phone was £25 a month!!! Without any discounts it comes in at £35 a month.
The only way anyone could get it for less was if they had a deal with the likes of Dialaphone where they had to get cash back every few months bringing the equivalent monthly price down.
I managed to get the Nokia 6500 classic on O2.
400 xnet mins
500 txt msgs
12 month contract
Free next day delivery
£18 per month
Just sorted this deal out with O2 for this phone-
Any time any network minutes = 600 a month
Text messages = 500 a month
Nokia 6500 Classic (in black ) = FREE
1st class delivery (be here tomorrow) = FREE
Cost = £20 a month for 18 months
I had been paying £15 for 200 mins and 100 texts on a 12 month contract.
Bronze colour will not be available until February 2008. As is common with popular phones, it takes several months before the manufacturer releases the new colourway.
This way, it bolsters sales just when the initially released colourscheme model begins to die down in popularity.
It is a common tactic employed by all of the manufacturers, especially with a popular model. Most recently - look at the Samsung D900 and the red variant and the chrome variant, etc. Both colours were released many months (up to 6) after the initial release date.
In terms of paint coming off the aluminium of the 6500c. If you scratch any metal hard enough, the paint will come off. Surely logic tells you this, or have you never come across painted metal before???
And no, it has not flaked off. And no, my phone is still looking pretty much brand new after two weeks courtesy of me not putting into a pocket which is full of keys, change and other hard, pointy objects which are exactly the kinds of things which will remove paint from metal and put scratches everywhere...
It is pretty easy to keep your mobile in good condition. I have just sold a simply awful D900 which was 14 months old and still in excellent condition...