You have mede my point...no need to ship old phones to 3rd world or developing countries Motorola are launching a sub USD 50 phone in India so is Nokia.
Under the guise of technological improvements these companies are covering up their shabby approach to the environment. 67 million phones you mentioned Nokia sold, that is 67 million pieces of JUNK 2-3 years down the line. If a phone lasts 5 - 6 years that is less junk we all have to deal with.
Also Nokia battries have been giving up in a years time ( I have been complaining about this for some time 6210 7 hrs new phones max 2-4 hrs why has Nokia stopped making what I call integrated body battries--they last longer) replacing 67 million battries every year is great business for Nokia....also it is killing the world. Any Idea how many stand alone battries Nokia sell every years...it will be interesting to know.
The most recent environmental report I could find on Nokia's website is from 2002. Link below:
Their environmental policy can also be found on their website:
Although as you've stated previously, they could do far more for the environment if they just increased the longevity of their products. Look at the old 3310 or going even further back the 6150 or the 5110......These rock solid phones, were released years ago that are still being used today (look at the forums, recent posts by current users). Can you imagine trying to use, for instance, a 6060, or another one of their flimsy, disposable phones of today in 5 years time? They'll have fallen to pieces by then even with only moderate use.
Now I completely understand that in todays industry, in most cases, handsets are not needed for longer periods and most service agreements offer upgrades after 12 months, but if we are talking environmental issues here, then this is clearly something Nokia (among others) have taken a much lighter stance on in order to ensure their profits don't suffer. All they (or the networks) need to do is recall old handsets when offering an upgrade, then the old handsets can be either recycled or re-used in developing nations. Unfortunately I can't see anyone doing this as it would meen extra staff, extra administration and logistics and extra effort. So its just not good business sense. Sad but true.....
does any one have a copy of nokia's environmental and recycling policy. they are glad if you replace your phone regularly without taking into account what will happen to the environment.
i think a little more research must be done in this area.my appeal to all cellular companies pls make your products robust,batteries last long and talk time even longer...you will be contributing to the environment
NOKIA SUCKS! i've been a nokia user since 1998 from 5110 to 3230. its boring, bulky, and it's value doesn't hold-up that long. The next thing you'll know it just dropped 50% from its original value. i tried samsung and motorola they're quiet good compared to nokia. This Finnish company doesn't care about "human technology"... they only care on "Money Technology". Customer care is a pain in the neck. and since China's economy boomed Nokia prices began to dropped overnight and quality deteriorated. im happy to shift to sony ericsson. even though its cheap, it has class, style, functionality, and simplicity. ive been using SE's T68i, P900, P910i, K750i, and K600i. by the way its a phone unlike nokia trying to converge everything... whats next nokia a phone that has a freezer in it and can run upto 300mph? hahahaha. wake up! its a phone not a mixed up stuff that's going to be useless after all.
Jo....Nokia is big right now...2 years hence will they be big....not at the way they are going...they will loose market share .
By the way 67 million phones translates to what % of market share...also do share with me what nokia's market share has been over the years... I know it has dropped over the years...
You sound like a guy who works for Nokia...instead of trying to justify what Nokia is doing take this as positive feedback and get them to improve their products....as long as a customer complains you know you have a chance to retain his loyalty. As soon as he goes quite you loose him.
I have been a loyal Nokia fan for about 5 years.Now I am at the point of shifting to Sony Ericsson P910 or waiting for the P990 as I am not happy with the 9300 and the 9500 is a bad product with too many flaws and compramises.WAKE UP NOKIA TO THIS REALITY YOU ARE LOOSING MARKET SHARE and the only reason is that the products are slowly detiorating in quality.
hey striker, they are actually way ahead from all the other makers generally speaking, that strategy you say, about putting the phones of the markets and then when they are released they are not impressive anymore, sounds more like motorolas, nokias phones are released no mroe than 6 months after they are announced, there are a few exceptions, and they are not losing market share, they sold 67 milllions of handsets last quarter and 60 millions before that, you know thats a 7 million grow, they are good and you know it =)
You're absolutely right, Nokia are gradually losing their clients confidence and if they carry on like this all they're gonna be left with is the Finns and bona-fide Nokia fans. Thats because they treat their customers like they're fools. Who in their right mind can't see through the fact that Nokia announce new phones by the bucketload to give the impression they're ahead of the market, yet by the time they get around to releasing them they're no better than the competition. And by then and people have lost interest and/or confidence.
I'm no brain surgeon but even I can tell you this is the wrong way to keep hold of loyal clients.
After comparing Nokia 9300i with products of Sony Ericsson, I feel Nokia 9300i is overpriced. If the price of the handset is around 19-20k, then it's worth buying!!
I have seen many negative posts for this phone as well as other low featured phones coming up....if every phone comes with the greatest set of features available up to date, then there wont be a differece in the market segments...people how can spend more and need more functions can go with the high end phone while others can choose phones for their own requirements...there is no such rule as that every new release should have all the features...
I am wondering if anyone,espically consumer forums can take Nokia to COURT.
Their 5110 /6210 had between 4Hrs 30 Mts to 7 Hrs of talk time...now their best phones do 4 hrs..technology has improved but their strategy seems to be-make poor products with shabby technology and keep forcing the customer to upgrade....(like the 9300i)BAD STRATGEY NOKIA YOUR MARKET SHARE WILL FALL
Also why has Nokia stopped making phones with battries that are a part of the body like the 5110 or 6210 .....
Well said you've got Nokia sussed, and you're further confirming what I've been thinking and saying about them for a long time. They need to stop flooding the market with tweaked versions of existing models while simultaneously hypeing several unreleased "uber-phones" that get delayed then delayed, then delayed again. Then, by the time they do come out they're a let-down cos the competitors have something available that equals or beats it. Nokia is all about clever marketing, they get people drooling and then make them wait. 18 unreleased phones on the main Nokia page of GSMarena. Think that says it all.
People are getting wise to you Nokia.
9300i... The least I thought they would come up with a vibrating alert, very important option in a phone in today's noisy world.
I sure hope if they come up with a 9500 update, I hope they have a vibrating alert in it.
Nokia needs to bring out with more innovative. Currently they are just stuck wtih producing (i) versions for their current phone or copying looks from other companies or most importantly - the never ending software issues.
I have a friend who feels it was the biggest mistake he made buying the N70, he says the software issues are never ending.
When can we buy a nokia phone which is complete. We all know that answer.. Nokia does too :)
u will find the 9300i slow for a while but as soon as the firmwire gets upgraded it should be no problem
why do ppl want a camara
GO BUY A 8 megapix DIGI cam then....
9300 and 9300i is Code named ( mini computer ) in nokia....
get the word MINI...
if they put a cam it will be ssame size as teh 9500 :)
wait untill late 2006 or early 2007 if u want a good 9 series phone...
Yes it is true the 9300 has out sold the 9500...
Dont complain about looking or anything it is the same i asked my nokia friend y u got the 9300 its old he said its 9300i everything is the same in it only the Wlan.. and some goodies :) for u to wait and see :)
mmm...some very interesting posts. Most seem to be either hung up because they want a camera...!!! or more importantly pee'd of with Nokia for launching the same phone with 1 change.! If you look carefully at Nokia's strategy they make/market what they can sell lot's of..that includes the same phones in strange colours..! And just like RIM they offer the 9300i a a business tool....hence no camera and WLAN that works...!
heyyy,the features in this phone same as the old one,still dont have any camera.have u think the other features before u produce another phone????wake up babyyyy....but its ok.
Nokia, you are missing the point. This is rubbish without 3G/UMTS, camera, and more. You guys should go back to the drawing baard. WIFI/WLAN is fanstastic, but where are the other features? I cry for your R & D and marketing departments. They should go back to school and study more of consumer behaviour in an electronic market place that we are in today. You should add more features of tomorrow technology and not those of yesterday and then add "I" to it. Such moves are out of touch with the market.