Anonymous, 21 Aug 2010Man. About your points.
As a consumer, I am either using AT&T, or Tmobile (that is, onl... moreFirst off. I am an American. Born that way....LOL Lived in America all my life.
I understand the con of the subsidized phone. It's one of the biggest cons in U.S Consumerdom.
I also understand that it is here to stay in the U.S and nothing is going to change it anytime soon. Americans do not buy unlocked phones and that is an undisputed fact. So there is no question that it's a marketing mistake for them in the U.S Market. I never claimed otherwise. But for better or worse, thats how Nokia Plays the game with the U.S Carriers and God Bless Em for doing so.
Itís not just the cost of a plan. Itís the mandatory plan add-ons you have to have when you buy a subsidized phone. It's the dictation of the carriers what you will pay for all because they sold you a cheap phone. Itís the lack of freedom to change plans or carriers whenever you want without getting bent over by the carrier.
If I buy an unlocked phone with WiFi then I have the choice and power NOT to have the data plan shoved down my throat just cause I bought the phone from the carrier. It's about who has the power to dictate how I will use my phone.
The carriers make their $$$$ off the plans, not the phones. They all but give away the phones because they have to make people think itís a better deal then buying unlocked.
They tap into the typical Americanís unquenchable lust for instant gratification. Walk out with a nifty new phone for nothing....worry about paying the bill later.
As far as my point about being usable by both AT&T and T-mobile. My point is that if you do not enter into a contract with either, then you choice to use the features of this phone with who ever you choose and whenever you want.
Ultimately, it's about me being in control and not the carrier. And I'm one American who will gladly take the hole over the leak in this instance in order to hold on to my choices and power as a consumer.
The Invisible Man, 21 Aug 2010When you compare the $549.00 price (in the U.S anyway) and features of the unlocked N8 with ot... moreMan. About your points.
As a consumer, I am either using AT&T, or Tmobile (that is, only 1 of them). Now what matters to me is that the phone should support the service I am using and thats all. I dont care if it supports all the other providers or not. So yes, while it will matter because the consumers using either tomobile or AT&T can buy this. It is by no means a *feature* for an individual consumer if it supports a service they wont even use.
Secondly, you are right. The price may not be that high. But are you saying it wouldn't have mattered if nokia had launched this subsidized in US ?
Buying subsidized phones is kind of a culture in US now. If you have ever been to US and have interacted with the people, or you have any relatives/friends there, then you'd know. Everyone is happy to shell out &99,&199,&299 in one go and be tied to a 2 year contract. But they wont spend friggin 500+USD on a phone in one go.
Even if the former turns out to be way more expensive eventually, it is affordable because it is like a leakage in your pocket that leaks slowly enough for it to retain something for other things, instead of cutting a big hole in your pocket.
So yes, it would be a marketing mistake.
Anonymous, 21 Aug 2010Just wanna say that despite I am a Nokia fan and SO want this N8, it appears that this is now ... moreI feel your frustration, but my take is a little different. I've had my eye on this phone for quite awhile and even though its taken longer than it should to get this phone to market, I'll sit it out a bit more till this phone is released in the next month or two. I want to be able to read User/Real Time Reviews (NOT WEBSITE REVIEWERS)and I want to compare this phone with others that are in my sights.
The last thing I want to do is jump the gun and miss something potentially great due to my impatientce!
Just wanna say that despite I am a Nokia fan and SO want this N8, it appears that this is now delayed AGAIN! I'm getting really fed up waiting and NOT going to wait and am going for Iphone or something different! :O(
When you compare the $549.00 price (in the U.S anyway) and features of the unlocked N8 with others, it's EXTREMELY competitive if not a downright bargain. This phone is a pentaband people! It's capable of picking up BOTH AT&T AND T-Mobile 3g Signals. What high end Android Phone can do that for the same ballpark price? Or how about the iPhone? Omnia HD? The Galaxy Line?
That one feature along almost makes it worth the price. Then when you start adding up all the other features and it goes over the top.
Check out the websites. There are alot of devices who features don't even come close to what the N8 offers and yet they cost the same or more.
And for those who still think the price is high, just wait till the notorious Pre-Order portion is over and it actually hits the streets and starts showing up on sites like Amazon, Dell etc.....the price will start dropping.
husi, 21 Aug 2010That is what m asking, will the web browsing experience on n8 will be same as n900? (full web ... moreHusi. You cant buy it before release even if you get that information. So I suggest that you wait for it to be released. You see the real videos of units that are sold to consumers. And then you read some reviews. The information you seek will definitely be covered in detail.
AMANITA, 21 Aug 2010Flashlite 4 is the light version of flash10.1 ! It will support mejority content of the 10.1! ... moreThat is what m asking, will the web browsing experience on n8 will be same as n900? (full web browsing like on a pc)
plz reply :)
D_x6, 21 Aug 2010U r wrong.i have nokia x6 and 4 ur kind information 4 recording video there is red light.thanksOkay. May be I was wrong. Thankyou for correcting me. :)
On an unrelated note, I have used nokias almost all my life and I believe they make very good handsets. But if you have an x6, then my sympathies rest with you. Hope N8 is released soon to cure your woes.
sanjeev, 20 Aug 2010nokia making big mistake of selling this phone equivalent to the price of unlocked Iphone 4. f... moreIf you think you are going to find an unlocked iphone for $600, then you better extend your vacation on Fantasy Island.
Anonymous, 21 Aug 2010If you mean that there is a red light that you can use while shooting videos in the dark. Then... moreU r wrong.i have nokia x6 and 4 ur kind information 4 recording video there is red light.thanks
AMANITA, 21 Aug 2010Not led but it has a red video light ! :)If you mean that there is a red light that you can use while shooting videos in the dark. Then you are wrong. Why would they give you a RED light to shoot video ?
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So If You Are Planning To Purchase N Series Phones, So Please Wait For Two Months.
Because N9 Is Much Much Better Than N8.
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So Please Think Carefully Before Purchasing N8.
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AMANITA, 21 Aug 2010Not led but it has a red video light ! :)The red color light is not for video rite?
It is Auto Focus assist light rite?
Afaik, there is no video light for N8.
But is ok. Because N8 still great in all.
I just pre-ordered mine! If you like Nokia, get it!
can some one tell me if the video light is as bright as the ones one the nokia n86
Stefanos Gatdoulos, 21 Aug 2010It has only 256MB of RAM. Most new smart phones like the iPhone 4, Droid, and Evo have 512MB ... moreWith paging feature I don't think the RAM will be an issue anymore
you can allocate internal storage space to be used as virtual memory (much like Windows but faster due to hardware differences)
AMANITA, 21 Aug 2010N9 will have 8mp cam with dual led flash !no amanita the new n9 (that looks like the macbook mini pro) is gonna pack a 12mp and the old named n9 is gonna have an 8 mp which is gonna turn to be a nokia n8-01 or in the c series. u can read this on google if u dont believe me
Stefanos Gatdoulos, 21 Aug 2010It has only 256MB of RAM. Most new smart phones like the iPhone 4, Droid, and Evo have 512MB ... moreThe symbian is also alot lighter to run than iOS or Android. After boot the N8 has like 128mb RAM left, which is more than enough to multitask 15+ applications (real multitasking, not fake multitasking like iphone).
So far no one has been reporting about the prototypes running out of RAM.
Remember, the higher the specs, the bigger the batter consumption, something that isn't really optimal to have in a mobile phone. EVO 4G is a good example of this.