Oh and 512 NAND means 512 MB of NAND which is a flash memory. N97 have 256 MB NAND and OS size of s60v5 on N97 is 184 MB so C: memory left for end user is just 72 MB. Nokia installs bunch of services on it and you left with
Anonymous, 06 Jul 2010I was probably havin a lame day anyway. Besides I can probably force move the Nokia release OT... moreI am in same mess. I am a N97 user. I have skipped Here and Now because what it offer is already included in new version of OVI maps. Also new versions of OVI app store and OVI music stores are released and they are mandatory and goes in C: only. Also the Wi-Fi enabled navigation has automatically installed an application which is a part of OVI and it installs on phone memory only. So eventually I have left with only 13 MB of free memory (though I am using it very efficiently). That left amount usually get occupied by browser cache and I have to clear it time to time. Ricky of SymbianGuru was wrong, it doesn't require hard reset to get left memory back but clearing cache just works. But its still annoying. Apart from lower RAM and C:, this device is pretty decent at doing other jobs especially camera, sound output and browsing with decent flash implementation (won't talk about signal reception, sensors, call handling because every device except iPhone does this nicely). Hope Nokia learn from mistakes in N97 and put bigger C: on N8. N8 is having 512 NAND so 512 minus size of S^3 would be size of C: but S^3's size is still unknown I guess.
I was probably havin a lame day anyway. Besides I can probably force move the Nokia release OTA or NSU programs & their content to the MicroSD anyway rather than C:. Maybe I'll mess around with mapping sometime, perform reinstallation & see if I get the options.
on side note to the debate over the N8's low memory issue. As I said S^3 may get virtual memory & besides 256mb of RAM is plenty of app memory especially if S^3 is memory multi tasking proefficient.
I'm sure the N8 won't have the low memory. We'll have to wait & see the August Alpha firmware which still won't be final. I'd wait & watch the vids using that firmware. Although it does help ofc for comparisons of previous beta stages.
Nokia also release Location services along with Here & Now for a OTA release. I install these & agree to the terms & conditions & ok the install but didn't see any choice of moving it to the MicroSD card! So there ya go. Maybe I need to install NSU but even then synched to PC may not offer Destination choices for installation.
Ok I never saw an option for new program updates to transfer it & have it mapped from SD. take for instance doin an update to the new 3.2 OVI maps. I lost just under a good 10mb on my C: memory. It didn't ask me to install the *NEW* map data to the SD card. Not with the OTA update anyway... I'm sure you can clear a good 4-5mb from browser cache though. But other people have experienced losing their internal C: phone memory from this. Did you lot see an option for moving the OS program OVI Maps to MicroSD especially if newer versions have craps loads of content which as I said lowers your C: phone memory?
Do you think the N8 will be free on a 18 month contract or do you think they will charge like the iphone?
if nokia wants to win over SAMSUNG WAVE then they have to offer n8 at a price very competitive as both are having NEW OS kindly note that.how many agree with me?
r0bz, 06 Jul 2010Well i know phone switches off with long press of power button. But when symbian hangs, it han... moreWhen any device hangs, it hangs for good lol. The design of the power button on this phone is same as that for laptops and pcs. Holding the power button down for 8 seconds doesn't initiate shut down in the phone os, it disconnects the phone from its power source. Its as good as removing the battery. Whether the phone hangs or not would not affect its functionality.
Besides, why are you guys so skeptical? This is symbian^3! Nokia knows better than to grow with the old downs. Symbian^3 aims to be usable by the average user and not just geeks. Its sure to be very stable.
r0bz, 06 Jul 2010Well i know phone switches off with long press of power button. But when symbian hangs, it han... moreMy N97 when hangs (very rarely though), I just keep it aside. Within a minute or two, it backs to normal. Once it restarted automatically to get back normal but I never had to remove battery to restore things.
Just hope the Nokia N8 is fully ready for Production,an the software sorted out,its about 6 weeks to go before its being finally released,with Nokia anouncing the N8 early,all the Network types should be Fully marked up,Vodafone,Orange,T-Mobile an 3 all like to have the names put on mobiles,so i am sure Nokia should have produced the phones be now,an just the Software they have to put on The N8,Hope the Software is as fast as videos i have been watching,an bad news today for Nokia in Western Europe-Samsung as overtaken them,so more pressure on Nokia,an hope this bad news really gets Nokia woken up at last,because Nokia used to have the same attitude as Apple now,can release any mobile an it will succede,an now Sales an Shares getting worse at Nokia
Well i know phone switches off with long press of power button. But when symbian hangs, it hangs for good. Not even power button helps. So last thing is to remove battery so i was just asking.
r0bz, 06 Jul 2010I'm asking this just out of curiousty that i know N8 doesn't allow removing of battery. So,... morepress the power button a hold for 8 sec then the phone will shut down and that is simple i think.. just like desktops and notebooks( i'm sure that if your notebook freeze u don't remove the battery from it right?) :)
"The Symbian^3 based Nokia N8 will be available to buy from August 24
Published on May 24, 2010
The Nokia N8's release date has been declared as August 24.
The release date is a notable move for Nokia since it planned it’s initial release in July.
This was because of the notion that the phone would be enabled with their new Symbian^3 OS.
Due to the new OS, the Nokia will apparently be 180 per cent faster than the Nokia N97.
Since the phone is now being released in August, Nokia has made some slight changes but progress has obviously been maintained.
Amazon.com in Germany has been taking pre-orders for the Nokia N8, but at €470 (£406).
The price for the order is €100 above the initial SIM-free asking price that was previously released by Nokia."
Smart Looking, unique design. I appreciate the model. It will really pick the market. Dhoom Macha dega.
Someone once posted here, why can't Nokia be more like Apple, and release a phone within weeks of announcing it.
This was said before all the problems that Apple is now having.
Nokia, release the N8 when it's been properly tested. Thank you.
Anonymous, 06 Jul 2010NOKIA!!!!! RELEASE N8 ALREADY!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!! I cannot wait already!!! FAST!!!!! ... moreHaha, I understand your feelings buddy. =D But remember, good things come to those who wait. So N8 will definitely be bug free and if not mistaken, the memory full problem will probably be solved too. Plus Nokia is making some final adjustment to the software so that when it is released, it will be fast and responsive. ^^
Nobody can deny the great features this phone has..
I only got one MAJOR concern..
wether or not symbian OS had it's best days already.. you see android really taking the lead.. win.mob.7 comming, meamo on nokia n900 seems not bad aswell..
this thing really could be bad for the n8 sellings