Rajesh, 31 May 2010You will have to wait about 6 to 8 months to know what I am talking. I know I have quoted the ... moreHi Rajesh,
I appreciate your enthousiasm, I really do, but you cannot compare those things. I understand that older processors will disappear, and then newer processors will come, like multi core arm processors, which S^3 supports.
I also agree with you that large video card with a pentium 2 cpu is not a match made in heaven, because neither Windows, OSX or Linux are suitable for such configurations. Tech does not work the same way everywhere.
Again, I can understand you think the ARM 11 is old tech for a new device, in itself it is. But, as part of this package, with this OS and this GPU it makes PERFECT sense to do it. I would like to ask you to follow your own advice, wait and see, how this terribly slow CPU will make the N8 fly.
Not flaming here, but just look at the facts. My point is proven more or less by the fact that the N8 beats the 8910 by a mile in all benchmarks, even though the 8910 has a much newer processor.
The key point here is, you can only make sensible comparisons ceteris paribus. Which you are not doing when making an analogy to desktop architecture, or having the OS and the Processor as variables at the same time. Logic does not work like that.
Anyway, the only thing that really matters, is if the phone is responsive and quick and the battery life is good. The rest is just a black box from the perspective of a consumer, as opposed to aficionados like us. Agree?
Just bring it on, i hate to be kept waiting .. -.- and why Nokia annonced it ages before realesing it .. pofft
It will not be the fastest and i m sure about that but it will be most sensible and use-able handset around........Nokia you ROCK!!!!
Mark, 31 May 2010Again Rajesh, on 4G, which let us assume will be LTE, your claims are wrong. You see, in a mob... moreYou will have to wait about 6 to 8 months to know what I am talking. I know I have quoted the facts. Its a matter of time. 600 or 680 processor will be history or will appear on sub 200$ handsets. Graphics hardware has a lot to improve and already graphic giants like nVidia and ATI are hard at work developing their chips for mobile computing and that too to be able to perform at its best will need a support of high speed processor. Lets talk on concrete terms...Lets say in case of desktop if I ask you to use a modern graphic chip with 1 Giga or higher video ram of with 2 year old pentium processor it wont work at its best. So you see, Processor and graphic chip and audio chip all work hand in hand and complement each other which gives you best performance of the computer and this also counts in terms of internet browsing with modern day flash and java applications. You use a old processor and you will notice that your internet browser will be teasing you in terms of tough time you will have. SAME HOLDS TRUE IN CASE OF MOBILE PHONES as after all logic that revolves around technology is same.
Symbianworld, 31 May 2010Nice promotial video: http://symbianworld.org/4573-video-nokia-n8-foosball-fever-in-hd/this video is recorded with professional cameras and montage with pro equipment!
that's why I do not like "UTOPIA" (I quote one of the normal people here: P) with this phone ... all the lies and untruths..
Nice promotial video: http://symbianworld.org/4573-v...fever-in-hd/
Rajesh, 31 May 2010Thats it...Now you read my comments...I never spoke about S3 or S4 or S5...I never said N8 is ... moreAgain Rajesh, on 4G, which let us assume will be LTE, your claims are wrong. You see, in a mobile device, especially in the case of this here N8, there are seperate chips for seperate functions. There is an audio chip in there, so the main CPU does not have to perform that task. LTE, as implemented by Nokia, will use a similar set up. Now, I think the LTE equipped phones will have higher specs than the N8, but it would be fully possible to have LTE on a device like the N8.
hey i was just wondering since the phone supports USB. is it possible to plug in a magicJack to it?
Rajesh, 31 May 2010Thats it...Now you read my comments...I never spoke about S3 or S4 or S5...I never said N8 is ... moreRajesh, CPU only is irrelevant. Experience counts. If you say the device is slow, you cannot leave the OS out of the equation. If the OS uses the GPU, then you cannot leave that out as well. If you do, nothing you say about the device, its specs, or how it will perform will make sense anymore. I agree that the ARM11 is not the fastest processor out there. But it does not matter. As long as the OS maxes out all of the benchmarks, the GPU can push all the screen real estate quickly, it is a good thing NOT to have a faster processor. Surely you must agree that it is the user experience that counts? Or would you rather have a slow V12 engine car, than a fast V6?
I have gone through GSMArena interview with Damian and did not see or come across any question on Nokia's ever trailing with technology ito CPU speed and RAM. Look at their so called N97 its always ever crashing, halting when on call, simply because there is 8 gig of picture and or music data which is quarter of its storage. Please GSMA when you get this slow (clock speed, RAM) handset from Nokia do test with half the of the 16 gig and tell us how its performing.
Mark, 31 May 2010Correct, but also, S^3 is even more efficient than previous versions. You can tell because S^3... moreThats it...Now you read my comments...I never spoke about S3 or S4 or S5...I never said N8 is supposed to run S3 only...what I said was specs are age old and supposed to be released last year...I specifically mentioned about 4G and future...do you think I give a damn if Nokia uses S3 now or later??? Reading people giving so much importance to N8 that too when in 6 months it will be a new technology altogether I mentioned what I had to mention.
Again I will call you Grand Pa because without reading or undertanding you came up with an attitude about GPU and linking it with S3. I never gave a damn about S3.
Future...was my point and 4G will use 1 Ghz up to 1,5 Ghz GPU with video graphich to download loads of data and then playing it flawlessly.
You are only drowned into the world of 600 or 680 GPU with S3 to decorate your thought. So Grand Pa...grow up and if you want to comment on anything just try to understand what the person want to say. You said your english is good...is this what you call a knowledge of good english...
Rajesh, 31 May 2010Now first you tell me what is supposed to be the highest processor speed for S3 if you still i... moreHi Rajesh, I do not understand your question, because that sentence does not make sense. Do you want to know the theoretical maximum speed for S^3 on current HW or do you need to know what the highest end hw is that S^3 supports. For the latter, full support for dual core A9 chips is present ( which is another step forward from A8).
And Rajesh, you haven't had a hands-on on the N8 right? You only saw the proto type on videos. Mind you - with two months left before the market release, I am sure that Nokia can fix any issues associated with it. And oh, do not compare a 680Mhz on Symbian with a 1Ghz on Android or WinMo - that is illogical. It is like comparing a worm found on your closet versus the worm that you eaten unconciously on your apple. Hehehe
The Phone Collector, 31 May 2010If Nokia only put 680Mhz on N8, it is because that's what a MINIMUM SYMBIAN OS requires. Didn'... moreCorrect, but also, S^3 is even more efficient than previous versions. You can tell because S^3 runs faster on a 680 Arm11, than the I8910 on A8.
Mark, 31 May 2010Ah, great, at least you used your own name this time, so I do not have to report this post, as... moreNow first you tell me what is supposed to be the highest processor speed for S3 if you still insist on speaking on processor terms.
If Nokia only put 680Mhz on N8, it is because that's what a MINIMUM SYMBIAN OS requires. Didn't you wonder why people clamour for 1Ghz CPU on Android? Or 800Mhz on WinMo? Because those phones will actually run slower on 600 Mhz - compare Omnia 1 with Omnia 2. It is illogical to compare Symbian to any other OS in terms of CPU requirement because Symbian DLL is much refined as comapred to the others. Symbian running on 1Ghz will over ru X10, I9000, or even Samsung Wave. I like the Wave so much, but I have to admit it.
Rajesh, 31 May 2010So now you came up with an attitue about your name. You will never learn gandpa.
Whats in ... moreAh, great, at least you used your own name this time, so I do not have to report this post, as opposed to the last.
Also, it is very unlikely I would be a grandpa, if I were into mobile technology, but I will take it as a compliment, since it would imply experience, level headedness and insight. Thanks Rajesh. Very kind.
Now ontopic again.
Your point was this is not a device fit for 2010, based on.... the processor! Oh infinite wisdom. So, mr genius, explain to us all here, the ones not interested in childish games, how you can ascertain the speed of this device, when it is heavily dependant on GPU, without taking into account the strength of this device.
Now, Rajesh, be sensible, and give me a proper response, if possible link to the proof you have, and thats that. Oh and one more thing, please behave yourself from now on....
[deleted post]So now you came up with an attitue about your name. You will never learn gandpa.
Whats in your name which will make me steal it. Mark like a MARKED FOR ...
You are a grown up matured and sensible grandpa I suppose. forget about technology and triangles and gpu and....
I am not interested in any of your knowledge what you claim. In technological terms to me you are a new kid on the block. But you are definitely a grandpa in real...right???
I cant be wrong. The way you comment and write without even understanding and or reading properly it only happens when you are in 50+ age or you are out of your mind.
In both cases you are not the person who is supposed to be taken seriously...