The Nokia N80 will have video calling..
And ofcourse it will be better than N92.
Have you not heard of UNBLOCKING your phone and getting the correct settings for your network!!
"----- hey do you know what is proportion??? the one you have done is only subtraction! if thats how you compute, then it must also mean that 16M is 15,999,744
times better than 256k..."
The point is that you can't compare features like that. And by the way I think you mean 15,744,00. N80 has 256,000 colors, not 256.
"may i just ask you one question... which is more comfortable for "MOST" gamers, coarse-pixeled colorful 2.8 screen OR fine-pixeled not so colorful 2.1 screen??? i guess most gamers will choose coarse-pixeled colorful
2.8 screen!!! why??? because they'll be squinting in the 2.1 screen!!! and by the way, do gamers need so fine pixeled screen???"
First of all, if you think N92 will have 16m colors in games... forget it. Not a chance. You wanna see how much more pixelated N92 is compared to N80? Well do this: Set your computer resolution to 800x600. That's N92. Now set it to 1280x1024. That's N80. The difference is bigger than you think. Try to do the same in a game. It will be MUCH nicer to look at at the higher res. ALOT more important than colors.
And by the way. N-Gage QD is NOT fine pixeled... 172x208 on a 2.2 inch screen is not what I call fine pixeled.
Lorna: The releasedate is NOT April! It's April for vodafone! That doesn't mean it's april for other operators and other contries than UK.
I just said APRIL!!!
I read it in nuts magazine last night!!
Must be true or thats miss advertisement.
can DIGIT please get bk to me about the mobile!! I want 1 that bad, there not out until APRIL in the UK.
Digit could you get me 1 n air mail it me ,pleeeeaaaaasssssseeeeee!!!!
The phone is available in Switzerland. You can find 3-4 phones in every mobile phone shop
Hey people, the release of this phone will be in APRIL!!!! I also think curious should get a life, he just repeats himself all the time, say something new!! xx
Just wondering why you keep double posting. Anyway to answer your question below
"why did nokia create dvb-h if there is a cheaper 3G?..."
There are many possibilities which I assume, since I not tied with nokia nor working for them so I won't able to provide you with the correct 1. Just my opinion
1) nokia wanted to join the crowd and be 1st in the gsm phone to provide such function. Such tv streaming is already available in some japan and korea cdma phone for quite some time.
2) another example which similiar to what you ask. Why nokia build phone with both 3g and edge support in the same phone? Answer to provide more option and choices to the consumer. 3g service is more expensive compare to edge service, at least for me.
So more advanced doesn't mean it has to be cheaper. And on the current utms 3g network, the download speed is only around 10kb+ faster compare to edge, which actually won't be much noticeable while for surfing purpose and mail retrieval service. So unless someone can tell me that dvb-h service is totally foc, I still won't comment that it will be cheaper compare to 3g video streaming since I really got no idea bout it
If you are still able to hold on to your current phone, I would advice you to wait patiently for the n80. Phone price is always droping when new product released especially 2nd hand phone.
And regarding dvd-h tv receiver comparing to 3g tv streaming, I don't think 3g video is expensive since my phone telco offering free video packages for 3g subscribers for the 1st month. And charges of video package which includes different channel will cost from around usd2.00 to usd4.00 depends on which package you choose. So I don't think the charges for 3g video streaming is very expensive since you can select those channel which you needed only. Where as for dvb, I not sure how good is their availability worldwide, and I not sure whether their service is free or not as well. Maybe there are dvd users here in this forum who can provide me with answer? At least this service is not available for me within this year which I am quite sure of it 8). The build in tv receiver is indeed something advance, but when you can't utilize it, it just equal to not existing.
----- yes your right that if you can't utilize the technology then it's equal to not existing... my point is that i'm only STATING the advancements of n92(whether it will or will not be utilized).
I also didn't say that TV over 3g is expensive... what have i told is that it will be "MORE EXPENSIVE" than TV over dvb-h... in other words (for me not to use the word "expensive") TV over DVB-H may be CHEAPER than in 3G... I have told this because it will be LESS possible for nokia to create a new technology wherein the new technology may be more expensive than the existing technology. follow up question there would be--- why did nokia create dvb-h if there is a cheaper 3G?...
"And regarding the gaming section, honestly do you think is that worth your hard earn cash for it? Both n92 and n80 would not be cheap when release. If someone really into gaming, I think a psp of nds would be better with a wider range of game support and cheaper price"
---- I'm just comparing the gaming performance of n80 and n92... im not sayin that i will buy n92 just because it's has nice gaming performance... your right that it's better to buy PSP or DS,because it's really dedicated for gaming and it's cheap compared to a mobile with the same capability...
feel free to express your opinions... i will be open...
"I disagree with this. What does it matter what the phone can do on the paper, when it doesn't practically work? How the phone will do in reality is the ONLY thing that is important. It's like having hardware in your phone which cannot be accessed. Theres no point at all"
------yes, you have told it... i didn't actually say that n92 is better(for me,overall,n80 is in fact better than n92-subjective). my concern is that... "technically speaking" nokia n92 wins, whether every "hardware" in the n92 cannot be accessed or can be accessed, the point there is nokia placed more "hardwares" in n92 than n80 despite that the hardwares it has been placed in n92 seems to be almost useless.
thats why it's more expensive..
on the side of n80,n80 may have less features in paper(than in n92) but those features are really helpful & important to most people.
in short n92 has "more" features
(but some may be useless)in paper, and nokia n80 may have less(but all of those are important,and helpful)
"16m is 60 times better than 256k, so therefor the resolution must be 60 times higher to make up for it? That's just silly and you know it! If that's how you want it... I could say that N92 takes pictures with 1,920,000 pixels (1600x1200) while N80 takes pictures with 3,145,728 pixels (2048x1536). That must mean that N80's camera is 1,225,728 times better than N92's camera!! But of course it isn't! You cant make comparisons like that. It just doesn't make any sense"
----- hey do you know what is proportion??? the one you have done is only subtraction! if thats how you compute, then it must also mean that 16M is 15,999,744
times better than 256k...
may i just ask you one question... which is more comfortable for "MOST" gamers, coarse-pixeled colorful 2.8 screen OR fine-pixeled not so colorful 2.1 screen??? i guess most gamers will choose coarse-pixeled colorful
2.8 screen!!! why??? because they'll be squinting in the 2.1 screen!!! and by the way, do gamers need so fine pixeled screen??? n92's pixels are just average for gaming, so it doesn't mean it will have a very pixelated graphics.---that holds true in the case of gameboy advance and n-gage qd... gameboy advance has coarse pixeled but big screen, and qd has fine pixeled but small screen... so gameboy had won because gamers are more comfortable with the easeness of big screen than squinting in qd...
fine pixels are just next to size of the screen and colors when it comes to "GAMING".
anyway,it's only ones choice whether what phone to buy...
"16 million colors from 256k may not be as great as 352 x 416 from 240 x 320 according from you. the point there is a phone's features' advantages is not determined by how a user sees the improvement, but should be determined by how much "technically" it improved. again, 256k to 16M colors improvement may not be seen so much important in ones eye, 240 x 320 to 416 x 352 is then better according from you, but you should take it into a logical way... meaning if the colors increase by 60 times then the resolution must also increase by 60 times in order to be equal(regardless of how our eyes see the improvement.)"
I disagree with this. What does it matter what the phone can do on the paper, when it doesn't practically work? How the phone will do in reality is the ONLY thing that is important. It's like having hardware in your phone which cannot be accessed. Theres no point at all.
16m is 60 times better than 256k, so therefor the resolution must be 60 times higher to make up for it? That's just silly and you know it! If that's how you want it... I could say that N92 takes pictures with 1,920,000 pixels (1600x1200) while N80 takes pictures with 3,145,728 pixels (2048x1536). That must mean that N80's camera is 1,225,728 times better than N92's camera!! But of course it isn't! You cant make comparisons like that. It just doesn't make any sense.
"and if you don't buy a phone for high quality games, then you shouldn't DISREGARD that advantage of the phone to play high quality games, every feature-which is an advantage should always be counted-whether it's useless or useful for someone,
to determine the counts of features a phone has."
True. It has a bigger screen so it will be better for games, but it will look more pixel-ish while N80's screen has a higher resolution so it can show smoother graphics. And we both know that a high resolution can be very important in games. They both have one advantage and one disadvantage so they pretty much overlap eachother in my opinion.
Not going to be no such thing as N80i with them specifications anyway!!! I'd rather get N80.
Nokia N80i will be sliding phone ? With 5 MP camera ? 0_o if it have 5 MP camera, nokia is the best!!
I've got 6230 and i am so bored with it. I'm dying for a new phone and i'm just waiting for this. I want a laptop too but dont know weather to wait for this as you can access internet on N80 cant you??
Hey guys im real confused now, please help im about to get an upgrade and am totally undecided on wether i should get the Nokia N70 or N80. Has any one had the experience of the 2 is it true that the N70 is capable of video calling but not the N80 Heeeeelp.