Anonymous, 24 Oct 2008adjust the equalisers for to get maximum volume...oh s. Volume s much better now. Thanks
This should be the i8510 forum since all that happens here is fanboys talking about it. What happened to n85?
Anonymous, 24 Oct 2008Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 vs Nokia N96 vs Nokia N85 : Hardware Performance CPU Platform : - ... moreThanks for the great report. I do have already INNOV8, Omnia, and E66. But I look for a good Nokia S60 platform to use for puting programs and taking phone calles. My E66 is just a garbage in preformance and quality. So, N85 would be good replacment for me to change E66 to N85. No care about Game or video. Only care about good Nokia N series. If I need to take a photo then I would use my Sony Cyber Shot camera and if I need to play game or watch video then I would use my Iphone/Ipod Touch. Why would of use my N85, INNOV8 or Omnia to watch movie when Iphone is best in media and the size of the screen. What I a mtryign to say can not get all the best functions out of one machine.
Why will no contract operators release the N85 on contract as it available sim-free,it seems totally odd as you usually get the choice ever getting it contract or sim free,i hope it becomes available soon as i have read loads of reviews about the phone,but you can never trust some reviews as you have your own opinion about the phone until you get it,Nokia should have stalled the N96 an made the N85 the main phone to boost there sales,and paying £350-£400 for a sim-free phone nowdays is not everybody liking an to expensive,so until the N96 stock is cleared the N85 might not become available while December-January way to late so people will turn there backs on the N85 an buy another mobile instead
Samsung Techwin and Samsung Electro-Mechanic, two of the Samsung Electronic subsidiaries, have already developed 8 megapixel camera modules with 3x optical zoom.
The module has an autofocus performance improved by 57%, a 1/2.5 inch CMOS sensor and lens that support F2.85.
A Samsung Electro-Mechanic official unveiled that the first handset to come with 8 megapixel and 3x optical zoom will be released in early 2009.
Even more, Samsung manufacture is also working on a 12 megapixel camera module that will be smaller than the 8 megapixel one.
Anonymous, 24 Oct 2008Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 vs Nokia N96 vs Nokia N85 : Hardware Performance
CPU Platform :
- ... moreU forgot to mention the negatives of the innov8.
It is one of the biggest and heavies phones released this year making its egronomics horrible. Much worse than even n96. Secondly, due to the power hungry processor, 3d graphics accelerator and lack of power utilization usually seen on nokia devices, the innov8 manages to quickly drain the high capacity 1200mah battery. Most users have reported that it will not go on for more than a day. Its battery life is comparable to n96 (which enjoys power saving hardware and software, but the battery life still isnt adequate).
Another negative is that the innov8 will not receive updates to fix the existing bugs or improve performance (this is only enjoyed by nokia phones at the moment).
Another thing to note is that even though it has a faster cpu clockrate, its UI doesnt seem to be as fast as previous models like 5700xm or 6120c.
The lack of dedicated music and gaming keys deployed on the n96 and nv5 limits the user experience of the innov8. Benchmark results cant compare to adequate landscape mode playing.
So even though innov8 enjoys the best hardware at the moment, there is much room for improvement on egronomics, power saving techniques and extra hardware for ease of use.
Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 vs Nokia N96 vs Nokia N85 : Hardware Performance
CPU Platform :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : TI OMAP 2430 450MHz, 128MB RAM
- Nokia N96 : STMicroelectronics Nomadics STn8815 264MHz, 128MB RAM
- Nokia N85 : FreeScale I.MX31 369MHz, 128MB RAM
Jbenchmark 1.0.1 Total Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 4997
- Nokia N96 : 2796
- Nokia N85 : 3232
Jbenchmark 2.0.1 Total Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 532
- Nokia N96 : 358
- Nokia N85 : 548
Jbenchmark 3D HQ Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 873
- Nokia N96 : 155
- Nokia N85 : 195
Jbenchmark 3D LQ Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 979
- Nokia N96 : 283
- Nokia N85 : 380
Jbenchmark HD Gaming Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 956 (29.0 fps)
- Nokia N96 : 127 (4.2 fps)
- Nokia N85 : 166 (5.5 fps)
TI OMAP 2430 model are the 2nd generation of TI OMAP chips, 2420, powers multiple hi-end Nokia smartphones(N93, N95, E90, N82) and has in fact an integrated 3D accelerator.
The improvement from 2420 also extremely numerous. The CPU frequency has been pulled up to 450MHz from previous value of 330MHz. The chipset can work with high definition camera(> 5 MP) and it take less than a second to take shot. The rest important point about 2430 hardware are an upgrade TWL4030 module (TWL 92230 was used in 2420). TWL4030 is multifunctional solution providing access to numerous codecs, dedicated audio processing module, noise filters, and so on.
Samsung i8510 is the first Samsung smartphone to fully utilize the potential of the hardware graphics accelerator. It is an absolute requirement for processing 8 megapixel images, real-time VGA video decoding with separate audio signal processing(done by dedicated DSP, excluding the possibility of using the music player and camera at the same time). The graphic accelerator can now handle twice as few polygons per second, commonly used to power the best gaming phone.
Nokia N85 utilizes the same hardware as N78, N81, and N79. Freescale is cheaper solution for the most expensive TI OMAP 2430. The lack of 3D accelerator is blatant in the Jbenchmark 3D test. N85 lags behind in other test as well. Despite the lags seen in the test, N85 audio quality is the same with N96, a bit above than N78, but a bit below than Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8.
- Samsung i8510 : Standard, Li-Ion 1200 mAh, Stand-by Up to 310 h, Talk time Up to 8 h 30 min
- Nokia N96 : Standard, Li-Ion 950 mAh, Stand-by Up to 220 h, Talk time Up to 3 h 40 min !!!!!!!!
- Nokia N85 : Standard, Li-Ion 1200 mAh, Stand-by Up to 360 h, Talk time Up to 6 h 50 min
- Samsung i8510 : 8 MP, Video VGA@30fps, QVGA@120fps
- Nokia N96 : 5 MP , Video VGA@30fps
- Nokia N85 : 5 MP, Video VGA@30fps
- Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 has faster hardware performance, the best camera, excellent sound - DNSe 2.0 (Digital Natural Sound engine), excellent build quality, good battery, good price etc. while Nokia N96 is the slowest most expensive and with just 950 mah battery.
- Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 fully utilize the potential of the 3D graphic accelerator. It is an absolute requirement for processing the camera, video recording, decoding and playback. Nokia N85 and N96 can't handle this perfectly because the lack of graphic accelerator.
- Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 is the best gaming phone today. U can enjoy your 3D or HD games running perfectly in 29 fps, while Nokia N85 and N96 only can run below 10 fps. Thank's to dedicated hardware graphic accelerator.
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970N85 listed as 413 GBP on the Nokia UK website.
Expecting delivery late october, which is about now really!!
Bakekang, 24 Oct 2008N96, N85 and N79 are quite disappointing products from Nokia. These are just more or less exac... moreyour comment is very agreeable but innov8 is not that great. It price is falling fast (in sg). innov8 and omnia has their own issues.
Bakekang, 24 Oct 2008N96, N85 and N79 are quite disappointing products from Nokia. These are just more or less exac... moreThanks for great comment. I agree with you 100%. You save me time to write the same thing. I have INNOV8 and Samsung Omnia and very happy with. I do also owne E66 with alot of preformance and quality probl which I will change with N85 most likly tomorrow. I think I buy NokiA N85 for ony reason since I am Nokia Lower for last 15 to 18 years. Hope 2009 better year for Nokia.
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The comments on this page were filled with so many people complaining how extra megapixels are not needed and how 5mp is enough, yet when Innov8 and a few others were announced, everyone started bashing nokia for not following suite.
Anyway, if this phone does get announced, im getting it.
sammy, 23 Oct 2008just trade in my n95 8gb for this. everything is good but not the keypad. Not as smooth as N95... moreMr Sammy how is te sound qualty coz every1 is bitching about i would also trade a N95 8gb 4 this 1
True. Nokia havent really focused much on n-series this year, but the other nokia phones are doing a lot better e71, e66, 6210n, 6220c,etc.
The strategy that nokia is using is to equip non n-series smartphones with a vast amount of strong features for the mass market like 5800xm since they sell more than the n-series anyway. Due to this, nokia have chosen not to release as many smart phones as they did last year so as not to completely destroy the current n-series lineup.
About the 8mp, true. Nokia have delayed which is rather unusual, not to mention disappointing. But i wouldnt get innov8 just yet. I remember an article that gsmarena posted late last year about a court order patenting a nokia device having 6 or 8mp (most likely 8mp) with a rotating camera on the top with xenon flash. Does anyone else remember?
Now with the rumors of an unnanounced nokia phone with 5x optical zoom, i think this could actually be the phone. (its the only way i can see a phone having optical zoom).
Just my thoughts here. Only time will tell.
yeah nokia Nseries has taken a beatin dis year,their Eseries has done quite well,only reason il buy dis is coz major nokia fan aswell,hopefully nokia picks up their game nxt year
i agree. n85 is just an improved version f n95. only minor details are separating this phone from n95. if only the audio quality was the same as n81, it would've been better.
Based on the spec, it just that N95 classic with slimmer body and new OLED screen only... It juz doesn't live up to its price tag of 27,299Rs (550 US dollar). Its juz too expensive unless we wait for the price to come down abit
N96, N85 and N79 are quite disappointing products from Nokia. These are just more or less exact replicas of N95 8GB, N95 and N82. They don't differ much in terms of functionality. They are created to give customers plenty of options to choose from. So, Samsung is taking the lead this time with their all-in-one multimedia powerhouse Samsung INNOV8 and their touchscreen flagship device, Samsung OMNIA. Nokia loses to Samsung this time. I think Nokia should fire the engineers and designers who developed N96, N85 and N79. Nokia is always behind other mobile phone companies when it comes to innovation. APPLE which is not even a mobile phone company was the first to revolutionize touch based screen devices. And it took 2 long years for Nokia to create their iPhone version! Nokia is stuck with 5MP camera phones. While all other mobile phone companies have their 8MP camera phones already released in the market. Nokia is paying attention to lousy innovations that don't matter like DVB-H. Nobody needs it since its not yet widespread and I think it will take at least 5 more years to become fully available globally. N96 was released too late. 16GB cards is now available. N96 should've been released a year ago when news about 16GB cards was not yet flourishing so people would be excited about it.
Anyways, don't get me wrong. These are just my opinions and I believe everybody is entitled to his/her own opinion. And Nokia should listen to my opinion because I believe my opinion is right!
And don't get me wrong again. My remarks are constructive criticisms unlike most opinions here which are purely rubbish! Hahaha!
Nevertheless, I still love Nokia. And I'm still going to buy an N85 because I'm a Nokia fangirl. Hahaha!