dont worry about the nokia n86 not having the xenon flash this new flash is almost as brith as xenon flash and can be used for night video the pictures taken from this phone is awsome and no other 8 megapixel camera phone comes close to this watch out idou
Anonymous, 16 Mar 2009this phone is not boring
it offer user variable aperture + 28mm wide-angled lens
boring ... moreYou are taking fixed aperture in the wrong context.
All half decent lenses (Including P&S) have multiple apertures~usualy shifting from f/2.8-14. However there is a large tendency for the camera to stay at f/2.8 for VERY GOOD reasons~~I don't see my P&S going to f/5.6 for no reason.
The inscribing on the lens 5mm-15mm f/2.8-5.6~~~REFERS TO ZOOM! If the lense is at its widest then its smallest aperture will be f/2.8. At its most tele focal length the smallest aperture is f/5.6.
Now excellent lenses won't say they have multiple apertures~They say their smallest aperture. Say Leica 50mm f/0.95 NOCTILUX, or Canon 70-200 f/2.8. In zoom lenses a fixed aperture (Meaning when you zoom the aperture doesn't change, but still adjustable, say for hypofocal) is VERY good.
As for the 28mm thing~~It really doesn't matter that much. Its shown to be hard to make a good and sharp wide lense~~Even Zeiss can't bend this exception~~Especially with this relatively bad lens (Applies to all cmaeraphones). Barrel distortion and such will probably plague it.
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970actually many phone is much better than iphone. what iphone offer ? iphone simply offer good UI and the apps store. iphone spec-wise is not good for it's price. camera 2 mp, no setting at all? well i know, if want real professional, better buy DSLR camera, but still if we can get better camera with the price, why not ? bluetooth cannot support file transfer also sux, i use bluetooth alot as file transfer, iphone simply unuseable for me. even with the new iphone 3G, they only add 3G, but the price goes up like crazy. what's good in iphone other than that touch UI and app store ? they only doing good because they only offer 1 model unlike nokia and other brands that offer many models (with this, people stuck in iphone, but with many brands especially nokia, people easily forgot previous model as many new model come out)
Anonymous, 16 Mar 2009until now i just see Nikon and Canon grab a lot compare to SONY
a 2006 year awards also fe... moreCanon and Nikon are current leaders~~But not in the P&S front. Canon is still #1, but Sony and Panasonic have Nikon beat out in the P&S market. For Pros its a Nikon and Canon duel, but again Sony is starting to creep on them with the a900 and Panasonic plans to take the market by m43. And every manufacteurer makes their own fine glass~~Even Sony has good 'Zeiss' glass and old minolta glass. Panasonic has leica's help and leica has their good stuff (50mm f/.95 NOCTILUX)
Why am I here comparing Cameraphones to real stuff? uh...Sony can make good cameras, just like Nikon and Canon occasionally make bad stuff. Each has something good~~its just not syaing Sony has no awards, because at the end of the day the sales count is what matters. And nokia dominates (Although not by Nseries but low end s40 phones)
-Nokia Fan-, 16 Mar 2009Nokia will definitely introduce a 12mp phone, with xenon, face detection and etc. Itz jz a mat... moreof course. We now the megapixel gimmick works on alot of people. Its a matter of time before all the big guns start on the 12MP Cameras and then move to 15, 20 and etc. Its seems pathetic but it works.
Just like how Schneider-Kreznach, EXMOR, Carl-Zeiss are just gimmicks. Nokia, Samsung and LG will follow SE into super high MP density zones~No matter what you guys think>>IT WILL HAPPEN for marketing reasons
-Nokia Fan-, 16 Mar 2009Nokia will definitely introduce a 12mp phone, with xenon, face detection and etc. Itz jz a mat... moreof course. We now the megapixel gimmick works on alot of people. Its a matter of time before all the big guns start on the 12MP Cameras and then move to 15, 20 and etc. Its seems idiotic but it works.~~Just like how Schneider-Kreznach, EXMOR, Carl-Zeiss are just gimmicks. Nokia, Samsung and LG will follow SE into super high MP density zones~No matter what you guys think>>IT WILL HAPPEN for marketing reasons
Nokia will definitely introduce a 12mp phone, with xenon, face detection and etc. Itz jz a mater of time ;]
phil., 16 Mar 2009because canon and nikon is bribing when there`s a photo awardswhy don't you said SONY camera cannot produce high quality picture compare to Nikon and Canon??
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970until now i just see Nikon and Canon grab a lot compare to SONY
a 2006 year awards also feel very happy at 2009 year
how come after 2006 there is no any awards for the sensor?
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970the award you can show off at YEAR 2006
and do you know this year is 2009
plus you tested the camera on idou before??
Eisa cameraphone award:G810
Anonymous, 16 Mar 2009maybe nice but still looks liek junkthe design , many people care about the design
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970since when i said N86 camera have the best quality ??
i just said it got variable aperture + 28mm wide-angled lens only,
and you?? you over sensitive or language problem??
i can show u a bunch of photo captured by N86 prototype,
and you, can you show it?? show the photo captured by IDOU??
don't said the quality been tested , it is not even been tested ON A MOBILE PHONE
this phone is not boring
it offer user variable aperture + 28mm wide-angled lens
boring than some phone offering FIXED APERTURE
better than some phone using other company platform- NOKIA S60 V5.1 platform
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970show me the photo captured by IDOU??
how can you compare idou camera quality but you dont know the other camera quality out there even idou image quality hasnt been tested yet.you are dreaming....
N86 camera been TESTED idi.ot mobile-review got a bunch of PHOTO idio.t
donno who DREAMING
image haven't been tested,
se never announce idou using exmor
EXMOR has :
1. super steady shoot
2. reduce noice in low light conditions
3. 10 fps continues shooting to produces the perfect foto at 12MP
4. high res image
5. high pixel quality
6. high speed shooting
7. high image quality
8. seemless panaromic shot
you copy this from a DIGITAL CAMERA , not from the cameraphone itself , got ANY LOGIC??