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Agree with anonymous on the N85. will consider buying that too when launched. I bought N96 because of bigger screen, DVB-H support and it's looks and because it's a Nokia.
Can't agree on the Innov8, until Samsung pulls itself together on firmware and software supports. otherwise it will only be a regular 'high spec'phone, marginally better than C905 from SE o LG's 910.
I am a bit of a purist, for digital shot I have the Canon EOS1D Mk3, for portable music, I have the ipod touch 32GB. both of which is virtually unsurpassed in photography and music reproduction. And for mobile phones, I choose Nokia N and E series.
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- 2008-09-10 07:51
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for me, the current best smartphones recently announced are the n85 for mid-to-high end category and samsung i8510 innov8 for high end category. a big NO to n96. basing on the several reviews i read, i think n96 loses to n85 and samsung innov8 in many accounts. here's a run down:
-n85 has better build quality than n96. n85's plastic surface is glossy but not prone to scratches & fingerprints.
-n85 has better screen technology that offers better viewing experince - color contrast, sharpness, brightness, viewing angle, legibility under sunlight. n96 has larger screen but has worse picture quality.
-n96 has dual processor but scores the least in performance and speed. n85 has only a single core processor, same processor as n78 but is engineered to perfection in terms of performance and speed.
-although same 5mp camera, n85 has better image quality than n96 and n85's camera has a focal length of 5.45, n96 has 5.2
-n85 has fm transmitter that can be used anytime, anywhere. n96 has dvb-h receiver that is not widespread and only few countries support.
-n85 has up to 30 hours of music playback. n96 has up to 12 hours of music playback.
-innov8 has better camera, better sound quality, better processor, and better build quality than n96.
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- 2008-09-10 07:36
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I have had the Nokia N96 for a few days now, I must say I am very pleased with the device, despite having a thin battery, it would last me a day and a half of heavy usage(1 hour talk, 2 hour web surfing through 3.5G, 1 hour GPS use and 1 hour music /video and 1 hour N gage game). I have had almost all the top ends N series (N82, N95) and E series (E90, E66) phones and I must say I am impressed with N96. I wasn't expecting to be impressed with the late launch, but I was.
Yes I agree that the Innov8 has better hardware features, but you guys are missing the point. buying and owining the phone is not about having the best feature (unless your intention is to let others know that you own the 'best phone'), it is about experience and the utilities you can get out of the device. Samsung doesn't quite work for me, Ask any Samsung's S60 owner out there, and they will tell you that Samsung is not big on firmware upgrades and bug fixes (read Steve Litchfield review on the Samsung G810 in allaboutsymbian.com and you will get the idea), and we all know all devices have bugs when launched, to me Samsung's resistence in releasing firmware upgrades is akin to 'selling and forgetting'. And let's not forget N-gage, Ovi, PC Suite, Maps, Nokia Music store etc., all experience enriching services afforded only to Nokia S60 devices.
So stick to Innov8 if you want the 'best spec' cam and music phone, or maybe consider the Sony Ericsson C905 for that matter.
but if you want your device to do more than that on a S60 platform, there's only one place to go.
That to me alone is worth 500 euro more.
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- 2008-09-10 07:06
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> In reply to Anonymous @ 2008-09-10 06:09 from RnpGit doesn't matter anymore because it will come out as expensive because of extra features that regular people dont need. it might have surpass N96 in some aspect but, N96's features are also at its best, plus DVH-TV that's a total media entertainment at a competitive price.
if i am to choose between 8MP or DVH-TV I will surely go for DVH-TV than 8MP because I already have a good 5MP Carl Ziess on my phone. c",
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- 2008-09-10 06:44
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> In reply to iolo003 @ 2008-09-10 04:56 from PT}Eit doesn't matter anymore because it will come out as expensive because of extra features that regular people dont need. it might have surpass N96 in some aspect but, N96's features are also at its best, plus DVH-TV that's a total media entertainment at a competitive price.
if i am to choose between 8MP or DVH-TV people will surely go for DVH-TV than 8MP because I already have a good 5MP Carl Ziess on my phone. c",
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- 2008-09-10 06:43
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according to mobile-review.com and smape.com, samsung innov8 is the most feature-packed mobile phone to date. innov8 beats n96 hands down in camera, video, sound quality, ergonomics, and build quality. n95 has a 3d graphics accelerator but no dsp sound chip. n96 sacrificed the 3d accelerator for a dsp chip. but samsung innov8 has both a 3d graphics accelerator and a dsp sound chip. their dsp chip provides even much better sound quality than nokia's best, the n91. innov8 has better build than both n95 and n96. innov8 has not only added megapixel count but the image quality produced by innov8's camera is the best among all camera-equipped phones. don't get me wrong, i'm a nokia fan but i'm really impressed by samsung innov8. innov8 costs 700 euros, n96 costs 600 euros. i think a 100 euros added to the current price of n96 is so worth it to buy innov8. if i had the money now, i'd skip the n96 and buy the innov8.
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- 2008-09-10 06:09
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> In reply to Kal @ 2008-09-09 21:21 from 2SUUif the samsung is that good why have the people who wrote the review in the link you have given has used a Nokia N95 8GB? well don't wonder no longer! help is at hand. if its not a better device than the 8GB it will never be as good as the N96!
THE END!
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- 2008-09-10 05:59
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> In reply to iolo003 @ 2008-09-10 04:56 from PT}Ei'm also a nokia fan but have you read the review of samsung innov8 in mobile-review and smape.com? both of those 2 review sites concluded that samsung innov8 beats the n96 in all multimedia departments hands down. according to their reviews, samsung innov8 has the best image quality among all camera phones right now, best sound quality among all phones even beating the mighty n91.
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- 2008-09-10 05:56
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Hello this site states it is launched but on nokia.india,stil its commin soon.if anyone in india has got it pls inform.as i have booked but i dont have any information from nokia
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- 2008-09-10 05:38
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> In reply to Kal @ 2008-09-09 21:21 from 2SUUNokia is kin in updating firmwares, I havent read firmware updates from samsung in mobile sites across the web, thats because their are non and they dont care about Samsung at all.
Nobody cares about innov8 and you know it c",
And I dont care about innov8 rather, I care about the world!
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- 2008-09-10 05:02
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> In reply to Kal @ 2008-09-09 21:21 from 2SUUWhat is superior of innov8 is the camera only which most of the regular consumers dont used anyway, so its a waste of money, how many times a regular consumer used their camera phone in a day, ahh at least twice a week or non at all and thats why its not making news and not making fuzz all over the world. Call that smart choice for regular consumers not to be fooled by such gimmick.
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- 2008-09-10 04:56
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> In reply to Kal @ 2008-09-09 21:33 from 2SUUi believe Nokia is busy in creating the ultimate touchscreen to compete with Apple and the other brand Samsung is not part of their concern.
anyways when it comes to durability, read the web you'll find a lot of issues sorrounding Samsung not only on their mobile phones but the rest of their products. where not talking about how robust the product is, what matters is the inside, the cheap and lowgrade materials Samsung is using on their products.
Nokia has the best customer service according to most of the consumers, market research say so, and with all the websites created by Nokia that caters to their customer, you cant argue with that.
Nokia have been developing various software to enhance their devices, that other brand dont.
Nokia is kin in updating firmwares, I havent read firmware updates from samsung in mobile sites across the web, thats because their are non and they dont care about Samsung at all.
What is superior of innov8 is the camera only which most of the regular consumers dont used anyway, so its a waste of money, how many times a regular consumer used their camera phone in a day, ahh at least twice a week or non at all and thats why its not making news and not making fuzz all over the world. Call that smart choice for regular consumers not to be fooled by such gimmick.
Nobody cares about innov8 and you know it c",
And I dont care about innov8 rather, I care about the world!
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- 2008-09-10 04:16
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> In reply to kal @ 2008-09-09 23:55 from 2SUMlol no need 2 get all engry now....hehehe remember ur in the wrong place.....That review was biest coz they didnt show us the specs we jst had 2 trust his word wich i think was mostly an opinion.....It was also clear that hes also a die hard Sammy fan like you...who thinks coz sammsung has come up with a "worthy" oposer 2 the N95 8GB ....they hav reached thire goale...its like Sammsung was working hard 4 2 years 2 top the N95 yet come up with some thing simmiler....
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- 2008-09-10 01:54
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> In reply to [deleted post]No ur wrong...again....its ur opinion.....funny ur posting it in the wrong place.....pleas go 2 sammsung......posts.....
and 4 ur info iv owned othe r branded phone aswell.....yet i soled them coz wen there service parts were not available.....the only sammsung i myt own is the G810.....Ongly bt not the i8510.....coz it looks ugly 2 me......Yes i am a fan boy yet im not blinded.....it just hapens that Nokia produses the best phones....
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- 2008-09-10 01:37
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> In reply to Kenzo @ 2008-09-09 23:19 from M@T2INNOV8 beats N series in EVERY Segment do you read EVERY segment..not just in camera, Even in sound quality it compares quite favorably to the ROKR E8 and beats Nokia's solutions hands down, let alone Sony Ericsson's Walkman handsets. So shut up and be happy with nokia but dont claim that n series is best. Thats history.
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- 2008-09-09 23:55
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My bad the i8510 has a 3D chip......yet its still dosnt mach the N96 coz the only avdantage it has is the 8medapixel......nothing els.....
I read the full review ....its impresive bt most of wats stated there are opinions....
The term innov8 in Sammsungs History means Ventureing in2 Nokia's teretory...hehehe wich if u exclude the 8megapixel thats wat the i8510 becomes a Nokia wana be...lol.....
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- 2008-09-09 23:19
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My bad the i8510 has a 3D chip......yet its still dosnt mach the N96 coz the only avdantage it has is the 8medapixel......nothing els.....
I read the full review ....its impresive bt most of wats stated there are opinions....
The term innov8 in Sammsungs History means Ventureing in2 Nokia's teretory...hehehe wich if u exclude the 8megapixel thats wat the i8510 becomes a Nokia wana be...lol.....
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- 2008-09-09 23:19
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> In reply to Kal @ 2008-09-09 21:33 from 2SUUNo nokia ist presured by any other sellphon company.....The busy add other dynamics to there phones insted of doing the old trick of rasing the camera pixel......some will fall 4 it bt i wont coz i dnt need it......
5 is jst perfact 4 me....
oh and thats the only thing that saposadly is an innovtion in the i8510....coz its got no DSP sound chips, 3D graphics chips and AM OLED LCD's ......
i repeat the only thing that the innov8 saposadly has abouve the N95 8GB N85 and N96 is the 8megapixel...
So dnt come and post ur own unfactual opinion...here and go 2 ur fellow Sammynites......in the Sammy post.....who clearly are brand loyals.....not seekers of a gud product......the G810 dosnt belong in samsung it belongs in Sony Ericsson....lol...
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- 2008-09-09 22:13
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> In reply to Kal @ 2008-09-09 21:21 from 2SUUIncase u havnt noticed its a Nokia post......
And Sammsung cn neva give a Gud product as compaired 2 Nokia......the innov8 loocks tempting and yes the specs are good bt iv owned a Sammsung b4 so dose my girl friend and she regrets eva purchasing it.....
Just becoz The innov8 has an 8megapixel senssor.....dosnt mean its better than Nokia N82 or N95 8GB......
The N96 is not set 2 compet with the innov8.....and so is Nokia not presured 2 take out an 8Megapixel.......jst becoz they havnt anounced 1 dosnt mean they left behind....i 4 1 dnt need 8megapixel.....i jst need an improvement 2 it....zoom and duel led......
the only Sammsung the dosnt even deserv the brand name due 2 the unsucess full history of the compony is the G810 .....its a great phone i was even shoked.....
Funy u teling ppl u dnt even care bout Sammsung coz they knw its not as Good as Nokia......
Most Sammsung freaks dnt even knw about the innov8....
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- 2008-09-09 21:55
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> In reply to iolo003 @ 2008-09-09 15:49 from PT}EMaybe it didn't capture your attention or you don't care about, but trust me those developers and r&d team at nokia is losing their sleep.
"INNOV8 has already raised the bar to a completely new level. Now all other manufacturers will be trying to reach it, while some won't be able to come up with a worthy rival to the INNOV8 even a year from now." --thats what nokia is busy doing now..try coming up with a better one. They will be ashamed if they can't.
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- 2008-09-09 21:33
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