Dead right about the XDA IIs. Utter crap. Unreliable. Great as a PDA - MSM is good and WiFi and Bluetooth a bit wobbly (couldn't get a good setup with earpiece without having to reset every time)....
Word, Excel, .pdf / powerpoint viewers etc. ALL good. But as a phone......?
BLOODY UNRELIABLE!! and therefore worse than useless as you have no way of knowing it's not receiving - without picking it up and examining it.
I just couldn't wait until my contract expired and I could shop for something alse. The Sony/Ericsson P990i took my eye but found it to be too fiddly. It lasted a week. Eventually went for the XDA Orbit.
[However... with a bit of jiggery-pokery the XDAIIs can be made to behave. You need to update the ROM to the latest version from the O2 website and (preferably install as 'Corporate' - so I'm advised.) Also download and install 'tweaks2k' from pocketgear.com or the handango site.
A rather nice chap (Gavin) from the webdevelopers site advised me to do this and eased months of godawful frustration with the XDA kit.]
Re. XDA Orbit: Yes, Yes! YES!!
Although the memory is much smaller and no longer has easily swappable expansion card, WindowsMobile 5 appears to have addressed the unreliability issues -AND I can finally get Yahoo webmails and IMs :0)
-Still fighting with the Copilot SatNav tho' - can't get it to configure at all!
Just a new to O2 Orbit, everything is fine, but there is a problem. I can connect to my home wireless network but can't open the web pages. The error message shows "The page cannot be find. Check the name and try again." Is there any setting I have to amend before I try to access internet or MSN with wireless network not GPRS? Any friend could help me? Or my phone is broken?
on pdas is there any way to type sms or notes without the stylus i dont use pdas using se p990 wanting to go with this one or flame but one thing though these models r not comfortable carring in your pocket now are the though termed pocket pcs i have always seen them with cases whioch are huge do you carry them in your pockets and this o2 flame is huge.your one hand i think is always full or should i stick with se p990 i dont know but i use more of the phone than other features thanks
We have been running XDA IIs' and XDA Execs in our office. these are great as PDA's and for synchronising with an Exchange server, but as PHONES they are totally rubbish. Despite firmware and software upgrades as advised by O2 tech they all drop calls continuously. We are going to change phones in the next couple of weeks because of this, and I am wondering if the issues have been addressed/fixed with the XDA Orbit. It looks great, but if the phone is crap, it just wont cut it with our senior management!
Can somone reassure me or at least be honest wioth me about the PHONE performance? I know that the PDA functions and Satnav are great, but does it work as a PHONE?
feedback would be extremely welcome on this!
get the addapter from the link above
I just bought the XDA Orbit and you can get a small addapter so that you can use your 3.5 headphones of your own choice. I love this thing. I had the xda IIi befor this and would not change this phone untill they came out with a smaller and better phone and now its here with the orbit!!!
Regarding the question on whether or not there is a charge for using the satnav: the answer is NO. The satnav operates using the built in 'GPS' in the device. This does not cost anything.
The only charge would be if you were to update the satellite positions using the 'GPRS' from the handset, this is totally unneccesary as you can download this data when synchronised to a PC (connected to the internet) from the cable supplied.
The phone is setup to do this automatically but first time round you will need to do this manually:
Connect your handset to a computer with the USB cable supplied, go to 'Quick GPS' and click the dowload button. Thats all there is to it. Each time you connect after that the satellite info will download automatically. (The satellite info needs to be updated at least every 3 days)
Hope this helps.
For all those who are trying to decide whether or not to get the phone, get it, NOW. It's great. The supplied Copilot 6 satnav is fantastic.
My only gripe is that I can't use my decent headphones (with a standard 3.5mm audio jack)as the Orbit has no 3.5mm (or 2.5mm) audio fitting.
It confines you to its headset, with mini USB fitting.
Also means you can't listen and charge from a supplementary battery pack at the same time.
I purchased a mini USB to 3.5mm adaptor from U.S. for a motorola phone, but it doesn't work.
If anyone has found a solution (and supplier)that permits the use of decent headphones with the MP3 player and maybe even the built in radio - can they let me know.
O2 have been unable to help - both those online and in several shops...!
no problems with the orbit,a pleasure to use.
only downside is the copilot6 software will
not load onto my computer....suppliers have no answer...anyone out there with fresh ideas.
im using the lobster 700tv at moment which is a windows mobile5 device,,,anyway my question is that altho it records at qcif it can playback my cif videos off my samsung d600 so what is mobile 5 capable of playing back maximum in both resolution and frames per second,, or is it device dependent ???i like this phone
I have a quick question which i am sure is not a great one. Regarding the use of this device for sat nav, using the Tom Tom or other software, does it carry any cost? ie per minute or per use etc. thanks in advance!!
Hey, I got it Phil, Thanks a lot.
I am using Tomtom 5, All you need to do is to the following setup from the PDA. Step1>Start/Settings/System/GPS/GPS Settings/COM4.
Step2>Start/Settings/System/GPS/GPS Settings/COM9. Baud Rate 4800.
In Tomtom Settings, in GPS Configuration,
Step3> Other Cable NMEA GPS/GPS Baud Rate 4800/COM4.
Hope this helps many.
To: kin kapwan
Make sure in your Tomtom GPR settings the GPS device is set to other, and on COMM 4
Hope this helps
Hi guys, I am in UK n just bought the Orbit, each time I connect to the Navigation[Tomtom 5], it keeps telling me NO GPS Device!! How to do GPS settings? Which com do you select on the devise? How can I solve this problem? Can anybody tell me how to solve the problem? Thanks Cheers
all the b...... i have seen in this blog doesnt make sense. i have had this device for one month and it works perfectly well except for games request juice from the cpu. the people having problem are not lucky or are not computer literate.
Hi guy, I am in UK n just bought the Orbit, each time I connect to the Navigation Tomtom 5, it keeps telling me NO GPS Device!! How to do GPS settings? How can I solve this proble? Can anybody tell me how to solve the problem? Cheers
Hi guys am in Germany n just bought the Orbit, each time I connect to the Navigation it never works keep telling me NO GPS Device!! how can I solve this problem, or it will say waiting for GPS n it will wait for hours.
Thanks Penn u can as well send me email.
I'm planing to upgrade my account.I'm thinking about Orbit,mini S,and EXCE.Which one is better?
I wonder if I choose Orbit,will I be charged when I update the Sat Nav software.
Could someone give me some advices?
Can't see why it would take 5 minutes to send a text message, some people are so negative. Thanks for the tip about updating the GPS and it works too!
When the sat nav is working, the bluetooth light flashes so it must be connected to the gps?
I work for the mentioned telecommunications company and I can confirm that you get the co pilot satnav software free if you are on a contract of £40 above.
£35 p/m and its half price for the software [£49.99] but the handset is still free.
The only reason you will be told otherwise is if the software is out of stock.
I've had the orbit now for a month and its great.
One question above states the only charge to do with the sat nav facility is to update the "Quick Gps" facility [updates the phone to the latest satellite positions]
An easy way to avoid this charge is set the "Quick Gps" facility to update at every "sync" and always charge your phone via USB i.e every time you charge your phone it will update the log for 3 days free of charge using your pc's internet connection.
Also, with regards to texting/e-mail's there is a virtual keyboard which is fine if you are stationary with the stylus, but difficult if you are in motion.
If this is a problem, I would suggest the XDA Mini S [or the Zinc soon] for a more sensible typing solution, with the added bonus that you can still add a windows mobile 5 sat nav solution and connect via a Bluetooth GPS receiver [also available from the provider].
But with Satnav in mind, the orbit has a clear advantage, because it doesn't use Bluetooth to connect to a receiver, it is free to be used with a hands free kit alongside your Satnav solution. It also means you only have to charge one device, rather then two i.e GPS receiver and phone.