jesse.clark, 26 Apr 2017So samsung, LG and Sony phones also have retina display according to your theory? And what's a... moreAs for the two screens in question. They're very much alike for a 20/20 person "detail wise". Color wise the Samsung is better. So already S4's resolution was more than good enough, where it needed a boost was the colors and (in fact) brightness, which is why the S8 is the best screen.
Also S8's screen is nowhere near, it's almost 3k in fact (QHD+). 2k means that your "big" resolution is in the ballpark of 2000, so not 2100, nor 1900. The film standard define 2048x1080 as "2k" (and 4096x2016 as "4k"). The widescreen (16:9) equivalent to 2k is 1080p (same amount of vertical pixels). So the S4/S5 screens are the closest Samsung ever did to having 2k phones. In fact the only phone to actually have a 2k screen is the Xiaomi Mi Mix as its 2080x1080 panel is pretty much equivalent to the specification.
Pretty much why Samsung should have gone for 17:9 too for their bezeless design, it would allow them to use film standard resolutions (2k, 4k) which would be useful for the movie apps as well as VR (if they were to use 4k).
jesse.clark, 26 Apr 2017So samsung, LG and Sony phones also have retina display according to your theory? And what's a... moreYes! That's exactly what I was writing if you had bothered to read my post (S4 was the first retina amoled), you only got triggered because you fail(ed) to read the context of my post, in that sense we're both paying your sin.
Also it's not just me, it's the general view that any screen can be retina, there are even websites dedicated in that: http://isthisretina.com/
The word is merely a handle to refer to an important phone concept! Again, where you living under a rock?
Anonymous, 25 Apr 2017Jobs' literal quote: "It turns out thereĀs a magic number right around 300 pixels per inch... moreSo samsung, LG and Sony phones also have retina display according to your theory? And what's a better display the super amoled 570ppi 2k HDR10 display on Galaxy S8 or the 326ppi partial HD display on iPhone 7?
Aspros, 25 Apr 2017I am not sure if you are a hater or jusy clueless, but why dont you tell us smth. Untill the 2... moreLet me check. One plus/iPhone performance. Pixel camera. Bigger Pixels​ display(same as s7) and no background reloading​. Also no worries of back glass cracking in op3. Also op3 was not on invite and have you already seen op5 to comment on it
jesse.clark, 25 Apr 2017Are you defining your own meaning of Retina display? Jobs' literal quote:
"It turns out thereĀs a magic number right around 300 pixels per inch, that when you hold something around to 10 to 12 inches away from your eyes, is the limit of the human retina to differentiate the pixels."
It was later clarified further that Jobs meant 20/20 vision because the limit of 40/20 vision is about 2 times that at that distance.
You must be living under a rock to not know *any* of this and only know the source of the term (without actually knowing what it is defined to mean).
Anonymous, 25 Apr 2017i'm wating for the drop test. at least give us some information about how fragile is this phon... moreYou've got plenty of them on YouTube.
Unsurprisingly, this phone needs a case or very good care.
i'm wating for the drop test. at least give us some information about how fragile is this phone.
meh. i'm sure you won't do it, dear gsmarena.
Aspros, 25 Apr 2017I am not sure if you are a hater or jusy clueless, but why dont you tell us smth. Untill the 2... moreYou must be the troll 'cause the answer to all your questions are quite known for some time now and I just can't believe that you don't know that S7 is best in nothing apart from screen quality.
Also I was talking about S8 you missed that point, but it's OK, I'm game:
Performance: OnePlus 3T, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otwED6s3rCQ
Camera: Google Pixel, https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles
Battery: Mi 5s Plus, http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3
Or alternatively G5/V20 if you're fond of carrying a spare battery.
BtS ratio: Mi Mix is 84%, S7 Edge 77%, not even close in fact.
Storage: Mi Mix (256GB)
S8 is even worse actually. It loses to the above to the same 2016 phones despite being a 2017 phone because Samsung was too lazy to improve on S7 edge. It actually regressed in battery and aspect ratio...
Anonymous, 24 Apr 2017For once stop being *decimated* in the multitask score by other (far cheaper) brands . Having ... moreI am not sure if you are a hater or jusy clueless, but why dont you tell us smth. Untill the 2017 is cleared, which 2016 flagship was better than the S7 edge? Which had great battery, superb and smooth performance, great camera, esp at night time, which has been the bane of the industry in the past decade, the best display ever put in a flagship and one of the most best looking devices in the market and the best bezel ratio amongst flagships, seriously what else should they do? have you tried the the G5 battery? The Sony bezels? The htc availability? The pixel price and limited storage?
On 2017, it seems that there wont be any competition again, the G6 has a lousy battery and is stacked at 32gb storage, let alone the old cpu and wireless charging or dac in europe, yet a 800euros price tag. The htc just dropped the ball again with that U crap. The sony is pushing the bezels in the wrong way, the pixels will again be more expensive that the iphones, yet offer even more restrictions, Huawei is putting random Ram and 4year old storage on their latest storage. Only oneplus can remotely be a viable alternative, but as a chinese firm, you ll have to place an order online, hope for invitations, have it being mailed to you, live with bigger bezels, still a subpar camera etc
It is true that the 18.5:9 gimmick is a bad idea and that Note fiasco is making the entire S line to suffer from sub oar battery capacity, but 88h with a 3500mah capacity on a 6.2incher is not bad battery performance, actually considering the handicaps, it is a small miracle!
[deleted post]Samsung would be upset. We don't want that. Would undercut first weeks' sales...
Bunyip22, 25 Apr 2017Your wrong on battery life. The S8+ typically gives me 9-10 hours screen on time on average (5... moreS8 runs on "default mode" which actually underclocks the cpu by some, run at lower resolution and cloaks full brightness. Also greatly minimizes backgrounding, all give better battery at the cost of performance / clarity.
It's exactly the type of "accommodations" that a flagship should *not* do. BTW I agree that iphones do not have flagship grade battery either. Planned obsolescence is big with apple (in her software it is even more apparent ).
Sadly Samsung was taking in by Apple's scheme, which is why the removable batt was left behind.
Anonymous, 24 Apr 2017For once stop being *decimated* in the multitask score by other (far cheaper) brands . Having ... moreYour wrong on battery life. The S8+ typically gives me 9-10 hours screen on time on average (50% screen brightness, 1440p, running everything).
GSMarenas battery tests show that iphones dont have as good battery life also.
Great phone no doubt!
But i wanna talk of something else: remember the iPhone 5? remember when everyone criticized Apple for doing a taller phone with 16:9 aspect ratio and millions of memes circulating around internet making fun of Apple?
Well, the S8 and S8+, G6 are going even further...? what have people now to say about that? nothing? Not an Apple fanboy, i have Androids but i would like people to comment on that and seems everyone is ignoring the past ;)
Buppy, 24 Apr 2017So which technologies u think samsung should have put in s8 that are using by other company. i... moreFor once stop being *decimated* in the multitask score by other (far cheaper) brands . Having your $900 phone reload background apps is not a state I imagined for 2017, Apple already solved this in 2014, (some) Androids did that last year. Samsung *still* reloads plenty of background apps, it's very distancing to say the least (just the other day I had to wait 20 seconds for the navigation app to load ... for nth time in my friend's S8). BTW the solution is simple, more Ram for the most part.
A second part where Samsung is seriously lacking is battery life. They achieve big battery by running at lower resolution and by default running on "non-performance" mode. They used to have practically infinite battery by allowing spares. They are now resorting to cheap tricks to gain as much juice as possible. The solution is simple here too, ultra capacitor (that keeps the lights on) + removable battery, failing that bigger battery (4000 mah for example) as the cost of a few mm in thickness. That way we cold have full performance and full resolution at all times without having to kill back round apps either.
The situation with the screen resolution is quite bad too. Samsung were the first to bring VR to phones but *never* made the next step forwards. The image is still dotty and *bad* (owning to the low res for VR and the pentile subpixel arrangement). Samsung had a 4k amoled panel by early 2015 already, never pushed it to mass production, pretty much sitting on the same resolution for 4 years in a row, basically killing the chances of mobile VR forever.
Want me to continue? Because I can add the situation with the weird aspect ratio completely killing the chance to have one handed use (notification area is way too far away at this point), practically adding bezels to the phone that could better be used in other ways (say front facing fingertip)... and there are many other smaller issues.
By comparison S4 came loaded with the la test and greatest of the time. It had the BtS ratio of any high profile release (Mi Mix has this honor at this time), most ram (oneplus does at this time), best resolution (Xperia premium has that), biggest battery of any flagship in mAh (plenty of phones have it better at this point)... in general Samsung stopped pushing frontiers, which is also why S4 had 80 mil sales and this one would hardly surpass the 50 mil ... they say the market is easily swayed ... actually it isn't. People can see through the gimmicks. Still it would sell very well, but they are riding at past success at this point. They can't improve on their numbers anymore.