Vivek, 04 Oct 2008hi, well... first I broke a kickstand in a friend's N96 yesterday. I was shocked.. It seeme... moreok dude it does not take a genious to sense that the kickstand is weak...some friend you are breaking your pal's brand new N96...i hope it was not from jealousy...hahaha, jus messing bro yea i agree and am really worried that the kickstand does look like one of those parts that would probably be better not to tell people about cause you know how noone cares about your new phone and in the end they brake or scratch it breaking your heart.......
Now when u mentioned in your review that the 8 megapixel Samsung INNOV8 i8510 actually costs more than the N96, it does not seem to be the case over here.
Here in Singapore, Samsung has already released the INNOV8 for sale here at a price of SGD$488 - $588 with a 2 year contract. Compared to the N96 which is going for $688 - $888 with a 2 year contract under similar price plans, the Samsung INNOV8 easily gives the weaker N96 a run for the money. Even without contract the INNOV8 costs $968 compared to a $1188 for the N96.
Im sure when the INNOV8 is released in other markets in the world, it will be priced cheaper than the N96. Nokia's only hope is to bank on the cheaper N85 to stave the competition but thats still quite some time away.
Im afraid by the time the N85 arrives, it will soon find itself in an arena of many other capable contenders to fend with.
Hm, after reading the review I was disappointed. I will definitely keep my black N95(on which I'm typing this btw) until the N97 shows up, if that one is better of course.
Having used this for close to two weeks, I can honestly say that the N96 is worse than my 2 year old N95 and 10 month old N95-4. However, it's still better than the N8x and some of the E-series models.
I'm putting it up for sale to clear some funds to buy the Innov8 or N85. Anybody in India wants it for 28K (11 & 1/2 months warranty and no scratches)?? Bought it for 34K, some I'm taking a 6K loss. :(
well... first I broke a kickstand in a friend's N96 yesterday.
I was shocked..
It seemed like a piece out of a $2 Chinese toy I buy for my kids...
I have a N958GB I am happy with its performance... but hardware...
Nokia has to improve...
I coincidentally saw a E90 yesterday and boy! the back was completely scraped and peeling and what not...
It was again a 5 month old phone...
I am happy as my phone has a rubberized finish on the back and looks pretty durable... and is expected to also after the amount we pay..
the front however is a different story.
I can see defects in the plastic finish with slight curves, waves etc. think you get the picture... jus as the cheap toys from china look.
I hear china has a great quality manufacturing capacity also... only that they cost slightly more.
well I certainly hope its not so much more that nokia cant afford...
why look at SE, Samsung, HTC, they make great bodys too...
I felt very bad for that N96 and my friend.
lets see if he can get that mended ... the fone was jus three days old.
To All Nice People here..........The main reason of the N96 getting every1 disappointed is the fact that it was announced way long back in February at that time the market scenario was different......now its 4 all 2 c dat d latest n series like n85 and n79 all hve much better build and if they arrive in time dey r gr8 mobiles at their expected price points......if only Nokia had not delayed this handset sooo much that nw it pretty hard 4 it 2 fight d competition like 8 meg phones 4m samsung, LG and SE.......Its just dat that d phone is released really late dat has ppl critizing it 4 its short comings......just hoping that Nokia doesn't do this wid their N85 and n79 as any delay wud surely change the market scenario and again d devices wud fail 2 meet expectations of ppl.......If only N96 ws launched earlier d scene wud had been different may b an improved version of N96 wud hd been dere nw as ppl's feedback improved N95 to N95 8 GB so wud had N96.....So its just dat the product getting released dat late is not meeting our expectations....bcoz nw market hs better products at better prices....Plz Nokia don't do dis to N85 and N79 and 5800......LAUnch dem as promised and on time........
Also, just for the record. It seems N96 is getting scary often compared to Samsung Innovate. So, I thought sales statistics should be pretty good indicator of the popularity of the devices: N96 had been Plemix's top selling device since the day it started shipping to be replaced by Samsung Omnia only yesterday. Now, Innovate, on the other hand, has never made it to the top ten, and I suspect it never will. Just thought it was interesting thing to know.
Kal, 03 Oct 2008I don't quite agree with you.
Those who loved nokia for years, expected nokia to bring out ... moreKal, again, by no means do I say that N96 is a perfection, Nokia could have done better, and I'm sure it will do better. To be perfectly honest, I never even liked original N95 -- Nokia at its best is candybar or, lately, qwerty (my E71 totally blows me away), solid devices -- and not hip wannabes (my opinion here).
Nevertheless, GSMArena is way too, shall we say, imposing in its recent Nokia reviews. If GSMArena doesn't like something, it should offer it as its own opinion at one point of the review and not thread it through the whole 7 pages. Reading today's review was like watching Fox (or MSNBC, for that matter, if you're conservative).
And honestly, when I'm reading a review, do I really need a poetic language of "too late, too little" or do I want a solid readout of all specs, key features and cons? I think this is a question GSMarena should ask themselves if they don't want to alienate their readers. The irony is GSMarena excels at the second part of the job (solid review), yet totally fails (again, my opinion) in keeping their reviews professional (e.i., objective).
Anyway, not picking a fight here, just shared some of my thoughts.
come on nokia
this is a disaster
n96 should have been
8 mega pixel
720 p video
600 hz procesor
samsung its gona a kill you
they are coominggggggggggggggggggggggggg
Hey, Can anybody tell me that N96's Tv works here in new york or not?i have tried with my nokia N96 but it says no channels available. On Gsmareana's Review about Nokia n96 says that some few places around the world DVB-H in service and that includes New york too.the page link is this www . dvb-h.org/services. htm and up there there is a company listed named Modeo (New York City). On Modeo (New York City)web page there no proper information available or any phone number to call.
Gsm arena please take a notice about this matter and give us a clear idea.
so much more confussed...saving up for N96 for along time but does't seem to pack that punch but i'd still buy it the only probs are the N85 and 5800 being much more for alot less....i'm hoping that with those two phones coming N96 will see a major price drop really soon...thats exactly what happened to the N78...here in the middle east Nokia have a huge foothold and the N78 went from being more than the N95 to less than the N81...thats good news for everyone for those who like it (me) we get a fair price! later homies! keep chillin!!
Man...who has the N95 can skip two generations and wait for the next N series. And those of you that have the N95 8GB , well look on the bright side you will only have to skip one generation.
I didn't like the looks of the N96. It looks like a chunky N81.
And another thing is that the Symbian version is behind the one found on the E series (E66 and E71) that can change the customization by the touch of a button. a simple feature, but hey, if your emptying your pocket already why shouldn't you deserve it.
All around I hope that Nokia comes um with a true substitute for the N95 because if not I will be skipping a whole lot of generations otherwise.
No Xenon flash in the Samsung INNOV8 as mentioned in the first page of the review...
I sort of agree with the sentiments of all three of you below. But I have to admit, while I'm not that fond of the N81 style myself, I'm getting pretty tired of reading GSMarena's newest negative slants on it. Seriously, your team writes awesome reviews, I love everything about them, but it's true: by infusing them with your heightened objections to some aesthetic quality of a handset, the review is intrinsically more subjective. You're better than that, so why not write that way.
Got one on contract from T-Mobile (£40 a month), and I'm still getting to grips with it, but never does the quality of the phone demand a £500 price tag... Creaky, light leaks from the case and the slider's not great...
DON'T buy it sim-free if you can help it!
BTW: sim-free on eBay is £300...
Bakhti, 03 Oct 2008I'm a bit surprised by what seems to be a very subjective review of N96 -- GSMarena, you know ... moreI don't quite agree with you.
Those who loved nokia for years, expected nokia to bring out something that they can claim to be the best are mostly offended, disappointed. The words and the emotions are natural and nothing surprising to me.
I don't know what those designers and marketing guys are doing at nokia but I can see many who are in fact not fond of this glossy plastic design. Moto stuck to their Razr design for years and we know where they are now. Everyone loved it in the beginning. That's a lesson enough. As a reviewing site, GSMarena should have their own opinion.
After n95 8Gb the market was expecting more from Nokia. But in reality Samsung actually released innvo8 with all those specs and a lot more, and Nokia failed to deliver on time. There isn't much that has been added on N5 8gb. You are right you live in a place where a true multimedia monster will never get to see the light with all it's feature in the market. Thats one reason why Nokia dosen't have a strong foothold in their. US carriers will never release a phone with built-in GPS, HSDPA, TV out, WiFi to begin with.
Had Nokia releas this much before Innvo8, it would be a whole different perspective to look at. Hence it's too little too late.
Bakhti, 03 Oct 2008I'm a bit surprised by what seems to be a very subjective review of N96 -- GSMarena, you know ... moreGeeeeezzzz! Lighten Up Bakhti... No need for the statistical report, Duh!!
I'm not crazy about this N96 either. From all other 'better' Nokia designs, they picked N81 as the base for N96.
The keypad certainly look cheap and probably easily smudged as well.
I guess I'll be waiting for the 5800...
I'm a bit surprised by what seems to be a very subjective review of N96 -- GSMarena, you know better than this.
First off, even the very wording of the review seems to be as if Nokia personally offended GSMarena review team: "blatant insult", "gritting teeth" -- these are more appropriate for a letter to your ex-girlfriend who cheated on your with your best fried, but not when reviewing a device.
Secondly, Nokia is a $60 billion (as of today) business entity and it can afford to hire a decent marketing team, which analyzes the market sentiments and if N81 design didn't fly with consumers, they would ditch it. Even if the whole GSMarena team isn't fond of the design, it doesn't mean they have to be so vocal about it.
Thirdly, since when a 5mp device with 32 gigs of memory, 2.8 inch display and built-in wi-fi, gps is too little, too late? Well, I don't know much about where GSMarena people live, but in the North America, where I live, people still live with their 1.3 mp phones and Blackberry Curve with its 2mp camera and no 3g is still the king of the mobile world, so N96 is certainly not too late, nor it's too little. And honestly, I travel quite a lot and Europe is not that more advanced than North America (want to see advanced? go to Dubai or Japan) and I don't really see how N96 is "too little" for Europe either, so you GSMarena should be more careful with their wording.
That is not to say that N96 is a perfect device -- I'd yet to see a phone with a price tag of more than $500 that'd be perfect, if merely for its price -- but the fact is it is unique in terms of its dual-slider design, hefty storage capacity and media and connectivity capabilities (stereo bluetooth, video recording on Iphone, anyone?), certainly not a revolutionary device either (but who says Nokia's each N series device should be something revolutionary?), bug, which, again, is a very solid all-around performer for those who appreciate uniqueness.