DP, 11 Oct 2010Couldn't resist to add. Nokia has a cable (CA-146C) to allow any micro USB chargeable phone to... moreAll the phones sold from 2011must have an usb charger. So with a charger from samsung you can charge an Htc and so on. Only Nokia wastes chargers nobody really needs.
Wheez, 11 Oct 2010I think it's also pretty clear that Nokia hasnt even tried to make a phone that would win benc... moreI couldn't agree more. It is great whipping out numbers that suit a person's argument but it is really about the overall package. When talking about this package the naysayers conveniently ignore HDMI output, FM transmitter, Dolby output, USB on the go. In fact it was just earlier I was reading a review that expressed utter surprise that Nokia had made very little fuss about the N8 being five-band compatible. They went on to say that if it was an iPhone the marketers would have made sure this came across as a must have feature! So true!
I also found the recent article on Windows Phone 7. Here you have an OS that requires a 1Ghz processor and a GPU as minimum requirements. Much negative comment is made about the 680Mhz one in the N8 but this should in fact be wonder that a device as powerful as this is able to run perfectly with this processor. The wonder of Symbian! And as pointed out by someone else considerable battery savings are derived as a result.
[deleted post]There is a whole new set of icons available to download since like like 2nd of october.
Alui, 11 Oct 2010"In my country, many people still use nokia proprietary charger" For which Nokia ... moreCouldn't resist to add. Nokia has a cable (CA-146C) to allow any micro USB chargeable phone to be charged using a Nokia charger through this cable. Nokia phone is very popular in India and almost all popular places, Airports, Train stations, Malls, you will find charging stations. For Samsung, Moto, LG, you will find one cable of each but for Nokia, you will find multiple cables.
Alui, 11 Oct 2010Here's a video who explains it a bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl4p5JI0-gQ&feature=... moreThanks a lot !
Now I found it and the video does explain a bit more on that too.
I will keep searching and won't bother you (for now at least ;-)) with other questions until I get a better understanding.
From this short check I did, I think it has to do with the smoothness of the frames in graphical environments. I know that there is a difference between watching a movied on the mobile phone than watching / playing a graphical trailer or game. This is where the higer number of resolved traingles means better performance. Right? :-)
I think it's also pretty clear that Nokia hasnt even tried to make a phone that would win benchmarks. I think what the N8 is screaming all over is the balance.
I'm not trying to say that the N8 is specwise better than SGS or faster, what I'm saying that overall it's quite even, and definitely sufficient, compared to other top smartphones.
I hate comparing technical data such as benchmarks cos they don't reflect real usage, but since all people see are the Mhz and RAM, there's no other way for me to compare actual performance cos what's slow for you may be fast for me.
It's still all about personal preference and you can't change that. I still rather have my FM transmitter, HDMI out and USB OTG especially, than more raw calculating/rendering output. Battery life is also very, very important for me and sadly, powerful specs do not improve that.
Alui, 11 Oct 2010"In my country, many people still use nokia proprietary charger" For which Nokia ... moreNokia phones use either the older 3.5 MM charger plug or the newer 2.0 mm charger plug at phone end. All newer models use the 2.0 charger plug like N8. Nokia also have a USB cable (CA-100) to charge phone thru 2.0 plug but is really slow. Nokia has adopted the growing universal standard of charging through micro USB port.
W. Al Hakeem, 11 Oct 2010Thank you again for the clarification, but honestly I got confused with the rankings. I mean I... moreHere's a video who explains it a bit:
W. Al Hakeem, 11 Oct 2010Thank you again for the clarification, but honestly I got confused with the rankings. I mean I... moreSelect "Community uploads" tab to see the N8. What the benchmark is about (I guess) is feeding video data to the codec, and measuring how many frames are rendered. Because the codec might not keep the pace with the incoming frames, it drops some old frames so you have a jittery video. I guess the ranking reflects the total number of frames rendered. See on youtube a comparison test between SGS and other phones(HTC Desire, iPhone 4) and you will see what the test is about.
If you want the best camera phone in the world, nothing can touch the Nokia N8 at the moment. But the lack of qwerty keyboard option in portrait mode is inexcusable, and also there is no auto correct for the full qwerty in landscape view.
Alui, 11 Oct 2010I guess they should group the scores according to screen resolution. You can do that BTW, by c... moreThank you again for the clarification, but honestly I got confused with the rankings. I mean I can't figure out what does the higher or lower ranking represent, it's the first time I actually check it myself, I used to read about the GL Benchmark test in technical reviews, but never thought that they actually have a web page posting the result.
I have also checked the site itself for some kind of explanation or guidance but I think it's a very technical site and they assume that people who understand it already would be checking it.
Appologies for repeating the same query, but if you can explain it with examples I would be very grateful.
By the way, it seems that N8 is removed from the list. I tried almost all the filters in the pull down menu and it is not mentioned at all.
W. Al Hakeem, 11 Oct 2010Thanks for clarifying. But again, does the higher ranking mean better screen? If not, what ... moreI guess they should group the scores according to screen resolution. You can do that BTW, by checking the check box on the page. But is not about the screen is about the power of the graphical card(+processor) in processing the images.
Alui, 11 Oct 2010iPhone 3GS is rated better that iPhone 4 because is has FOUR times less pixels than iPhone 4 t... moreThanks for clarifying.
But again, does the higher ranking mean better screen? If not, what does the ranking represent...
I'm confused since I don't claim to be a technical person, but I know there is no screen currenly available in the market better than iPhone 4.
Appreciate your clarification on this.
W. Al Hakeem, 11 Oct 2010By the way, N8 is not mentioned in the list you provided, not even in the second page. Is ther... moreThey just changed the content of the pages. I hope I can find them on archive.org.
W. Al Hakeem, 11 Oct 2010According to your source, iPhone 3GS scored higher than iPhone 4. Does that make the iPhone 3G... moreiPhone 3GS is rated better that iPhone 4 because is has FOUR times less pixels than iPhone 4 to render. However, the resolution of N8 is lower that that of the iPhone 4 and SGS, and still has a lower rating.
Alui, 11 Oct 2010Here's their ranking: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.jsp?benchmark=glpro11&brand=&... moreBy the way, N8 is not mentioned in the list you provided, not even in the second page. Is there something wrong with the link? Please check.
Alui, 11 Oct 2010Here's their ranking:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.jsp?benchmark=glpro11&brand=&... moreAccording to your source, iPhone 3GS scored higher than iPhone 4. Does that make the iPhone 3GS screen better than the iPhone 4?
Also, both of them (3GS & 4) are lower than Galaxy S, again, does it mean the Galaxy S has a better screen than both of them?
Thank you for clarifying.
Wheez, 11 Oct 2010Ran into following numbers: The PowerVR of the SGS does around 22 million alone. Combined with... moreHere's their ranking:
The Galaxy S family are at the top. N8 is on the second page:). I counted, N8 is on place 29. Still young:).