Tech.Chief, 01 Aug 2017I still dont see your "points"
Im buying the Note 8 because its the most premium I can get ... moreSo you think Apple manufactures their own hardware? Lmao they only design them.
And with this, the iPhone should have been 50% better than any other phone. But what do we see? All iPhone users got is "it's faster, it's faster" BS that's all
DNeighbor, 01 Aug 2017Hehehe, Apple made the Apple pencil to compete with the Galaxy Note, and S Tablets with an S P... moreThis is the same reason why desperate Microsoft is full blast into hardware now.
They know they can push optimized updates and software to their own products. Also they know people will rather invest in their line of hardware than else because others wont get optimized software as Microsoft's very own OEM hardware.
DNeighbor, 01 Aug 2017Hehehe, Apple made the Apple pencil to compete with the Galaxy Note, and S Tablets with an S P... moreI still dont see your "points"
Im buying the Note 8 because its the most premium I can get from Android, Im using android because its a cheaper ecosystem and more mainstream in my part of the world.
If i lived in the US or Canada, the ideal ecosystem would be a Macbook Pro, an iPad Pro (with the pencil) and the iPhone.
Its just what it is. And again, in a few months time the Note 8 will be a flaship with outdated specs and lags - its just what happens when the software manufacturer is NOT the hardware manufacturer. No optimization
Nothing personal, its just what it is
Tech.Chief, 01 Aug 2017Well I'll have to disagree with you on generalising your field requirements (according to you)... moreHehehe, Apple made the Apple pencil to compete with the Galaxy Note, and S Tablets with an S Pen. I already told you I was thinking about getting an iPad Pro just only because it is good for drawing.
The thing is, I've done drawings/digital paintings with Galaxy Notes since 2011. It's the reason why I buy only the Note line-up, and never the S ones. I even bought extra thicker S (Wacom) Pens that work pretty good. I kept the Note7 S Pen and works far better.
I'm pretty sure the Note8 S Pen will bring a better interface AGAIN (tilt input) since Samsung owns Wacom that produces and has already implemented tilt input over with the latest Tab S3 and Book.
Yup, I'm excited about the Note8. Apple has no intention of integrating the Apple Pencil, nor produce an iPhone Note with a tiny digitizer pen - that will be the day... probably in 5 years since you are a fan of their very slow pacing for technology.
You have no real counter to all of my points in the inconsistency of an Apple ecosystem that you brag about.
DNeighbor, 01 Aug 2017Funny. Windows is sinking?
4 million FULL Windows applications.
I can't even render 3D ... moreImagine this;
DNeighbor, 01 Aug 2017Funny. Windows is sinking? 4 million FULL Windows applications. I can't even render 3D ... moreWell I'll have to disagree with you on generalising your field requirements (according to you) in relations to the Apple ecosystem professional capabilities.
Tech.Chief, 01 Aug 2017At this rate, it might take you a minute to realise that Windows is sinking very quicklyFunny. Windows is sinking?
4 million FULL Windows applications.
I can't even render 3D on the fly smoothly with a MacBook "Pro". Can't handle well beyond 1GB worth of polygons objects. Top game titles aren't on Macs.
On the subject of Note8, I can use it as my virtual tablet input to 3D model with my Laptop, just like the rest of my Galaxy Notes. iPhones or iPads can't even integrate input that way with Mac laptops.
DNeighbor, 01 Aug 2017"Apple's pace" is for them waiting for what Android features seem to be working/innovative and... moreAt this rate, it might take you a minute to realise that Windows is sinking very quickly
Tech.Chief, 01 Aug 2017Expensive globally! And in my opinion worth it eventually - Im still thinking of an android de... moreAnd special mention about removing the headphone jack on the iPhone, yet it's still on iPads and MacBooks. The lightning earphones could only be used on the iPhone. They really want you spending $180 more for Airpods. That's the price for "courage".
It would take 6 weeks for Airpods to arrive... Is this the Apple ecosystem you keep bragging about?
Meanwhile, Note8 still has the jack. I'm a Bluetooth earphone user, but the jack comes in useful when I need it when I run out of battery, or connecting to my home audio.
Tech.Chief, 01 Aug 2017Still I insist that the Apple Ecosystem is way more sophisticated, secure and fluid than the A... more"Apple's pace" is for them waiting for what Android features seem to be working/innovative and include to the iOS.
Apple will never place the Apple Pencil to work on any iPhone, nor they allow touch screen functions on their MacBook, nor allow mouse integration with their iPad Pro... Is this the ideal ecosystem you are bragging about? Apple wants you to think you need all their products - that's how you end up spending triple more.
Yet you NEED Android to do your business and not "more secured" Apple. Just funny. You know what, I'll go get myself a Surface Pro and new Alienware laptop. There's a reason why 95% of computer users use Windows.
Someone here forgot the Mac and iOS are still vulnerable to viruses.
Another one removed from the potential buy list due to the incompetence of the designers putting the fingerprint sensor where it is. Oh well the search goes on...
ivanm, 01 Aug 2017sure in usa canada etc..
in my country apple devices are very very expensive.. example, i hav... moreExpensive globally! And in my opinion worth it eventually - Im still thinking of an android device that size you can use with one hand conveniently - little things like that and you almost forget a phone can ever lag. Premium software, premium hardware.
Samsung should create an environment within android offering premium, fluid and secure mobile computing.
Unfortunately their first effort at going at their ecosystem which is Bixby has been met by "paid" and "unpaid" criticism.
sure in usa canada etc..
in my country apple devices are very very expensive.. example, i have ip7, but if i want macbook pro i must spend 3 month salary at all..
DNeighbor, 01 Aug 2017And you just compared the iPhone 7 with the worst-hardware Galaxy Note (no memory expansion, t... moreStill I insist that the Apple Ecosystem is way more sophisticated, secure and fluid than the Android.
My part of the world, the computing environment is predominantly Windows and Android, hence the choice.
Apple is way more than its hardware - which is receiving a "quickening" due to hardware preferences and showcasing from Android and Windows OEMs.
Its all relative.
Imagine IF a Note 8 comes with an IOS version/model. So Apple has its pace and for me, their ecosystem is way more secure, fluid and practical.
Tech.Chief, 01 Aug 2017Seamless integration with the ipad and macbook. Plus more advanced and user friendly features ... moreAnd you just compared the iPhone 7 with the worst-hardware Galaxy Note (no memory expansion, trying to be iPhone) to have been ever produced... Nothing has rivaled the Isocell cameras of the S7 and S8 with the fastest focusing and sharpest pictures.
You said it, your business operating needs Android can cover. Apple has no intention of cross platform wireless file transfers. iPads can be paired with a BT keyboard but not with a mouse, not even its own Magic Mouse? Yes, despite that, I'm getting it due its drawing performance.
Sorry, MacBook Pro can't run Revit, Rhino - which I need for my design work. I can't appreciate half-baked overpriced less-features eye-candy metal-cladded laptops. Apple laptops are only for the masses who aren't doing 3D production. I can't even connect it to an external Graphics card accelerator. Not even touch screen function is there.
DNeighbor, 01 Aug 2017All but the exception of the small percentage of battery manufacturing mistake, the Note7's ca... moreAnd another thing is the general fluidity and practicality of the iPhone is addictive. Its a more serious and business-like gadget and the Apple ecosystem is way more sophisticated.
This generally makes Android feel like a struggle and a cloned environment. Samsung is trying hard to channel out an environment in the Android community, offering new and improved email and security features.
Like I said, it all comes down to what ecosystem works for you on a daily basis and for your business uses.
DNeighbor, 01 Aug 2017All but the exception of the small percentage of battery manufacturing mistake, the Note7's ca... moreSeamless integration with the ipad and macbook. Plus more advanced and user friendly features in the Apple Ecosystem.
Like I said, my businesses and uses are more on the Android ecosystem which makes the Tab S3 and the Note 8 my ideal combo.
By the way, the iPhone 7 Plus Camera is way better than on my Note 5.
Tech.Chief, 31 Jul 2017Good points - only mostly hardware related. Like I pointed out, there's more to Apple than the... moreAll but the exception of the small percentage of battery manufacturing mistake, the Note7's capabilities and features are far from what the current iPhone is offering... Zoom lens useless in my book. Still has NO split screen. There is nothing that is compelling me to get an iPhone except the choice of a 256GB of internal space - which cost so much more. I'm not holding my breath for expensive under-features devices.
I buy a Galaxy Note mainly because its S Pen - an active digitizer pressure-sensitive pen - tremendously useful for jotting notes and sketching ideas. Very convenient than whipping out my bigger Galaxy Note 8.0. Yeah, Apple has the Pencil, and I'm planning to get the iPad Pro 12.9 2017 to update my bigger screen sketching needs, but Apple never wants to gut out its own Pro line-up by providing Pencil function on the iPhone. Just like they don't allow phone call functions on its iPad even if it can connect to phone networks. Never.
So, what are you looking forward to the iOS 11 update that will blow away the Note8?