Azlan, you are wrong. Well, I've had 6600, 6680, N70 and I can tell you: nokia is CRAP! They have a lot of features, a lot of applications running on S60, maybe they are most inovative phones, but practically...THEY DON'T WORK!!! Every single model from those 3 had it's problems : soft MISERABILITY (at a time 6600 wasn't showing missed calls if anyone can imagine !!!), they lose held information on the card, internal memory full with no application installed and no media stored , very, i mean very slow running, camera is crap...practically useless indoor or outdoor in low iluminating conditions, not that I say on 6680 it stopped working (again soft problems).
I'm not trying to be a hater or argue with someone, there are just the problems that I've experienced with world famous Nokia phones. It's like Windows 'till 98 se edition ; everybody was using it, but that doesn't meant it was good indeed.
I am not a Se fan either. I am the person who know more on cell phone .
It is unfair to compare smart phone (N90) with multimedia phone (K800). Why not do everybody a favour get your fat arse out of here and go to 02 forum and compare it with 02 Atom. Do you think it is fair to nokia when 02 Atom ia a pda pjone and n 80 is only is just a smart phone and which is 02 Atom is a better phone. This is a SE discussion forum. Please understand. But then regarding to cell phone camera, there is no douubt about it. K800 is a beter camera phone than N 80
damn i want this phone!!! its like having your own personal digi cam... would anyone tell me how much this thing costs??? pls hel me...
yea yea, we dont need a camera for a cellphone, BUT WHY NOT when we can.. lol.
yeah cellphone is for talking, receiving calls, instant messaging, but why not camera? its just an extra bit. so yeah , ify ou got the money buy uit if you dont then dont argue. n80 sucks, k800 rules
If you want a comparison between Samsung sgh-z710 and SE k800 go to these links:
This is for the K800:
You can view and compare the quality
The problem with nokia fanz are they are believe that nokia is best than sony ericsson, they dont understand the market niche concept, they compare N80 with K800, they believe that SMARTPHONE and PHONE is the same thing. They are wrong. N80 is Symbian S60 OS, this SMARTPHONE compete with with others SMARTPHONES, like Windows mobile, Symbian UiQ or Linux. The K800 is a PHONE with 3mpx camera, if you compare this phone do with nokias S40 PHONES, the same is for K750 and walkman line (except w950). K800 has the best photo quality among today PHONES and SMARTPHONES. N80 compete with other Symbians like UiQ. And this race always win UiQ since P800, a SMARTPHONE with almost the same features is the SE P990, plus hand writing recognition, WiFi, 3g, all e-mail solutions and outstanding 2mpx camera with autofocus.
I share your idees, as I thought You could see from my previous points, by I think think the problem with this discussion is that there are some people that know about phones and can asses their qualities without obvious arguing, and they are the minority( like You and Dreadnought), and they are the majority- who trying to rate the phones by their own preferences and after clearly losing an argument they are trying to grasp for some other clearly debatable ones. I salut people like You and Dreadnought and wish You good luck in your just battle against SE Fans , Azlans and ppl like that!
k800 might be all that good but signal sucks, all SE have a signal problem...
This phone is a mobilephone. That is what this site is about isent it? The Nokia N80 is a NOT a mobile phone. The batteri is so weak that you propably will have to charge it 2-3 times per day. If you don't use it at all the battery might last 1 day, if you'r lucky.. The K800 is much better than the Nokia N80 in batteri and size. And the N80 is better in screen and it has wlan.
For those who are expecting to buy this fone for its cam will later find out that the cam is not so good.I've saw pics of the k790i with its final firmware and its not that great but is still better than n80 due to lack of autofocus.I think that the k790i/k800i will be comparable to Samsung SGH-Z710.
to N80RuleZZZZ. I think it's better you STFU! because the difference is not just a megapixel. Go to SE website, then you'll see lots of differences!
This is the position of this device, a Digitall Still Camera. This is the segmentation market for SE, is the same for Walkman line. If you wanīt all tech available go with P990 that has all that N80 plus touchscreen, card reader and a lot of functions with Symbian UiQ 3.0, that is more friendly and sophisticated than S60. K800 is a real camera phone, with great features:
3,2 MegaPixels, Autofocus, Xenon Flash, Best pic, image stabilizer, panorama mode, QVGA screen, great macro mode.
GSM/GPRS/UMTS, RDS radio, media player (mp3, AAc, eAAC, WAV, etc) video formats suported (mpeg4, real 8 video), QCIF video recording, video call, support memory stick Micro M2 up to 1Gb, Pict Bridge, Bluetooth 2.0 with A2DP profile support, IRDA, Netfront browser, RSS reader, Java, etc.
If you compare N80 lacks the quality of camera but only has the advantage of symbian (install third-party apps) and WiFi, N80 is a SMARTPHONE with worse 3mpix camera, while K800 is a CAMERA PHONE with stunning 3mpix camera. This is the true Dreadnought
THANK YOU VERY MUCH! lol seems like you're the only one who shares me the same idea.
Thats what i have been saying all along,THAT the fact N80 is way much better than K800i.the fact that N80 offers more and has new things that no phone in the world has offered before,UPnp.
but guess what?they never understand,they just love SE without thinking,they will go for SE no matter if its good or bad.no matter if there is better or not they will just go for SE,cause they are just FANS!!
People here think i'm a NOKIA fan BUT i'm NOT.i just look for the best and go for it no matter whats the companies name on that phone.
you canīt tell how good a phone is by looking how good the company does. And I think itīs just the opposite; the K800 canīt be compared with the N80. In the long run K800 is just a toy which can take photos (almost as good as a proper real cam) and play music. Even though the N80 lacks autofocus and a text that says CyberShot, it still outruns this thingie 100-0 thanks to all the other functions it has that this can only dream about.
Iīm not a Nokia fan. Thatīs just the truth and no more...
NORM,,, no the k800i will be out on vodafone and 02 for deffo its just as only 02 as stated as to yet a release date n they say july on there network,but vodafone will state a release date soon and they will av it id say in may or june,im on vodafone anyways 3000mins xnet anytime with stop the clock and roll over mins plus unlimited texs and picture messaging hehehe
Nokia supporter wake up. N80 is no where compare to this because Nokia is down down the drain.
Here is the link
Gee, this is the most amusing of all forums Iīve ever visited... I mean damn...
Sony Ericsson doesnīt suck!!!
Nokia doesnīt suck!!!
Thatīs not hard to get for me or anyone I know... But you guys here donīt seem to get the big picture... I donīt mean everyone here though...