Anonymous, 02 Jun 2009This is not about Samsung vs. SE.
Se can not be compared to Samsung.
Samsung makes profi... morewe are again talking as if you were the leaders in manufacturing .
here its to exchange ideas but not to attack companies and show that you know more than the others
myself i will always purchase se , since its not only specifications for many but its a way of life and culture.
just stay cool and your place is not here in se , but go to samsung forum and spell your immagination there
This is not about Samsung vs. SE.
Se can not be compared to Samsung.
Samsung makes profit, sell more and ,more phones and keeps up with technology.
SE needs to battle with its internal problems:
Slow model release
Bad management decisions
No quality control
No partners or bad partners - Sagem, HTC
HTC was kicked out after X1
So, SE should get its act together because we all need another great manufacturer who can give hard time to Samsung, Nokia, LG etc.
THAT WOULD BE OUR INTEREST !!!!!!!
ALL the hype about SE announcement and what happened? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!
Change the model name for even lousier - no more tech data available, as far as I can see the 1000mAh battery stayed - what a JOKE!
Meanwhile the 12mp cameraphones hit the market!
SE can not even tell where this will be manufactured and by who, do anybody know?
The rest of the introduced models the same old nothing new design with nothing outstanding specs.
Omnia HD is out and more to come!
I think even SE realize the best would be to cancel the whole thing. Se will lose money again an a model which got nothing to offer with its 15mm thickness, high price (as usual X1 came out for 1100USD not long time ago!), and with its buggy software and hardware - lack of quality control.
After all this thing is a Viewty clone two years late :))))))
I saw the UI of the phone, is VERY fast, I think will be successful!!! Sony Ericsson 4ever!!!
Wow, this is crazy. What is this ? A samsung fan boys attack ? There more of you here than SE fans ?
It's a good try, but at the end of the day I'm still getting an Idou :)
Form is temporary, class is permanent !
btw samsung is the expert copier of se......smng is short of ideas but very quick to copy....but copy is copy it can never equals the master....
Akatsuki, 01 Jun 2009I didn't bother posting before because every time I glanced at the comments I was disappointed... more"Click compare. Voila."---- First of all the spec sheet of Satio is incomplete. Does it take this long to understand it? The main features that could be compared are still unknown. At present it can't hold against HD. If it's so easy to compare them why don't you post a single feature that satio has and HD doesn't. Don't talk about looks, it depends on personal taste. On the contrary I can write down many where satio is far behind. But then everyone will say satio is a proto, wait for the final specs. The fact is unless SE adds EXMOR and HD capability and the final specs, it shouldn't be compared to OmniaHD. Period.
..., 02 Jun 2009im a medium like 15 hours before it happened i said it would on some forum im on i said se s... moreoh no..even if Pixon12 will be released in the market earlier than Satio, still...Satio will going to have an advantage because it runs on Symbian OS 5th Ed and besides no one's int'rested with the old Pixon even if it has an 8mp cam.
im a medium
like 15 hours before it happened i said it would
on some forum im on i said se satio will be like c905
se announced 8mp first.. but until it was released some other company (samsung) released 8mp before them
i said same thing will happened with satio and some other company will announce 12mp first
AND THERE YOU HAVE IT
pixon12 will be released before satio
if se cant make the release faster then they are screwed because everyone will be the pixon12 (wich has ALL camera options and abilitys like satio and even better)
while satio will enjoy only the leftovers
(ex people who couldnt buy pixon12 at that moment or didnt heard of it)
END OF STORY
samsung came and smudged the se announcment with crap
again its gonna be long to wait for this phone...
but why SE are not showing all the specs of this phone?
1. that's all the specs it has.
2. per month SE satio will release an incredible features, so that no other companies will copy it, atleast SE release it before others can copy it.
3. no budget for this phone
4. SE is waiting for something...and what is that???
still love the red and white color of this phone
T Pian, 02 Jun 2009Idou vs Pixon12
1. idou bigger than pixon12
2. pixon12 display is the best even surpass omni... moresatio VS pixon 12 :
satio is bigger screen than pixon 12
satio is a smartphone
satio is a walkman phone
satio is a cybershot phone
satio has touch floo or scroll kinetic like iphone
satio has many applications coz it uses symbian OS
satio can edit document
satio use new and unique UI
the satio UI use flash
satio use omap 3430 and faster processor speed than pixon12
satio is a gaming phone
satio design is better than pixon12
pixon12 has a great screen
Idou vs Pixon12
1. idou bigger than pixon12
2. pixon12 display is the best even surpass omnia HD
3. pixon12 best camera farewell SE idou
4. you have to wait 10 million years before idou release in the market but a second f0r pixon12
5. pixon12 more beautiful n more convenient including Divx
6. finaaly Pixon12 is an absolutelt winner!!!!
A minor correction. My N82 can easily outperform the Innov8 when it comes to night time shoot out but during the day time, there are times when I win and there are also times when I lost out. Haha^^
So Sony Ericsson, get your things right! It's DO OR DIE!
@Nick, without doubt Omnia HD is an excellent handset with insane video recording capability but have you seen a live footage of it's video? If yes then I believe you can see it clearly, the noise produced while the video is being captured as well as the poor audio quality. At the end of the day, everything is still down to the optics and sensors used.
To be honest, I was fairly disappointed with the pictures taken by the satio although it's still a prototype. Here's the link to view the pictures.
From what I saw, I can deduct that the pictures produced are not of top-end quality and this came as a unpleasant surprise. If Sony Ericsson refuse to put in TOP QUALITY LENS AND SENSORS, then the Satio will end up to be another failure just like the K850i. I mean, look at nokia. All their N-series are using Carl Zeiss optics and to be honest, the picture quality is superb. Why, even my N82 can easily outperform the 8MP Samsung Innov8. So at the end of the day, it's still the optics and sensors which really plays the major role. Of course the PROCESSOR cannot be disregarded.
So, I've finally came out with a conclusion that if Satio won't be using HIGH QUALITY LENS and the supreme EXMOR sensor, then it shall fail like all the previous Sony Ericsson handsets. The same applies for the Pixon 12. If it's not using any good quality lens, then I don't see any reason why it will be better than the Satio. THE VICTOR IN THIS CAMERAPHONE RACE WILL BE THE ONE WHO WILL BE USING THE BEST CAMERA HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE.
Sony Ericsson, it's time to wake up from your dream and come back to reality as consumer knows that they want. High megapixels count can only be good if it is equipped with/utilizing high-end components.
nick, 01 Jun 2009how about no. the omnia HD has better video quality mate.you can compare both phone video quality by your self, do you think hd video is always good? you are stupid
I have a c905 at the moment, but i didnt like it. 905 cameras Is 8.1 Mp but it doesnt matter. My ex phone was nokia n95 and it had 5 mp camera. Nevermore nokias camera was better than c905, i cant Record video like n95 :(. So im regretful.. And i think Idou will same, I dont trust Pixels figures anymore :)). But finally this is so pretty.
Kurt, 01 Jun 2009What processor and speed do we have on this machine?same as omnia hd