Indra..Are u sure idou will use exmor??
Why se didn't say that in mwc 09,except 1st 12mp n symbian foundation os (not s60v5 like n97,5800,hd)
And dani,i know u are the legendary se fans (former using k750,then k850,now use n95 8gb),i think u know k850+n95 cam which is better (xenon is relative,compare it to n82 or g810)..don't lie,coz i own both of them...n95 8gb+g810 has better outdoor cam..but k850 xenon is amazing at indoor..then n82 should enters the competition,i have nokia,sammy,se,lg phones..so i know pros n cons of them,only 1 thing that i know se battery is superb! But features,performances..the big two (nokia+sammy) much2 superior n gr8 pricing...
Not too late for se to catch nokia,sammy,lg..coz of cybershot,walkman brand,but se needs revolutionary platform,not boring a200 platform,or problematic xperia winmo,hope se answer with this idou...
Exmor can't be the parameter of best cam,coz carl zeis (nokia),kreuznach(lg),or proven generic innov8 lens has gr8 track record
SE going for the 12mp because of sales PR.
For the customers an 8mp with good quality lens, less dense sensor would produce a much better image.
Packing 12mp resolution on a small sensor results a noisy, poor quality image.
(see how much larger the DSLR sensors - for reasons)
Unlimited entertainment? :))))
1000mAh battery will limit quite a bit! :)
I agree with the guys here:
SE announces but do not deliver. Once SE release something there are better models out from different companies.
Indra: I am sorry. Your reasoning is so primitive and hard to follow that I can not even read the whole thing.
You wrote once: My English is bad but who cares.
Well, people who try to read your already foggy logic cares.
I now it is hard for you to understand - a newly developed sensor do not guaranties anything.
Having an excellent image quality depends on:
- electrical circuit
I have written this but you keep pushing the sensor topic without ever seeing any output from the sensor itself.
You rely on PR - no personal experience.
You have no engineering understanding or education.
But no shyness to pretend that you understand specs.
Indra`= pretender :)
although sometime ago you openly admitted that you have no clue about tech data.
No shame that you misinform people here?
it's stupid that sony ericsson produce these cybershot phones which are all centred around the camera, yet are the worst in their class.
it's a joke.
and im sorry, the k850's camera is worse than the n82's, and the n95's!
This is what exactly SE was looking for. They want people to talk to discuss about idou..That way they can gain peoples confidence...their share holders are not happy with its future. They announced it in 10-12 months in advance. What we are still calling a "Prototype" was never even close to a prototype. It could be called nothing more than a show-off dummy. A prototype does pretty much same thing that the final product would do..there is always some minor changes to the final product..websites including GSMarena do review with prototypes. Now can you review idou? You cant. Coz it's not even close to a prototype. Now lets have a look. Mostly when a manufacturer develops something they do more R&D and fine tune it. SE came up with just one 8mp the C905. Have you seen them working on that anymore? They didn't. Samsung, Lg came with 8mp too but they worked hard and now they have more than 2 8mp models in their portfolio. Why SE didn't perfect 8mp and wants to jump into 12mp? Why announcing a phone in 10-12 months advance and let everyone in dark? It's simply not worth talking about. Not at all. Let them announce something first. A 12mp cam with HD recording must have enough internal memory and battery backup. I wonder why they never put it that way for the sake of it...at least we people could have believed. they could change it latter on. It's SE who has to blame. They are playing tricks and letting everyone fight. An the way I see it, they are quite successful in that. I wont waste a single word on idou from now on until I hear from SE.
5mp : løok at sammy g800 review on gsmarena,g800 wins hand downs vs k850,even symbian sammy g810 beats k850 easily..n82? Yes comparable to g810
8mp :again..innov8 proven to be the best till now! Read the 8mp war in gsmarena review
SE in 3rd? Yeah in q3 2008,but in q4 2008 LG + moto overtook se again...and q1 2009 result is se bleeding again and in 4th place below lg (moto at 5th)
SE market share 7.5%
SE always announce 8mp - 12mp earlier than other vendor but according to 8mp history,sammy innov8 is the winner,every profesional review site like gsmarena,mobile-review,smape.com,mobilearsenal.com do the test between innov8 vs c905,all of them said that innov8 is the winner..hope se payback at 12mp to fight with lg
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2009are you crazy? K850i - Best 5MP - i really dont know this one, but as far as i know n82 is ... moreGo to texas equipment site.idou will use TI3430 OMAP.jst shut your yap cos,it stinks badly you bloody hater.
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2009i really hope idou will release on time.. expected release = october? lol LG and samsung... moreDo you think samsung,lg,nokia wil violate the sale of its flagships yet to be release? They have to sell them well b4 jumping on 12mpx
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2009Just a general comment:
Yes, the model is not released yet.
Like many other models.
Ye... morelol...you explained it according to dictionary and with your view ? haha lol
you dont know what the entertaiment unlimited means according to SE explaination...
you always push people opinion with yours as if your opinion is right at all
you are so funny.you dont believe the other opinion who like the idou but in other side you always do it too, you always result the idou quality do you remember even you ever said :No specs, no performance evaluation, no reliability guidelines.
your statement is diff with what you did..what a shame...
if SE fans must list where they got the information and the information must be official, i think you must do it too if you dont believe them you have rights for it but you must list the official information to prove our informations are wrong not by your opinion.
it is not fair if we list the information with a link but you complain our information without the link what you have that we can trust.
actually you are the one who always repeat this topic again and again just because you dont believe the topic.
read it for example: i ever wrote that SE uses 12MP cmos sensor from EXMOR...there are many site said that too like :
6. this last number is my opinion : there is no cmos sensor has 12MP it means sony EXMOR cmos sensor is the first and the highest cmos sensor as much as 12MP for phone (you can see the news at poin number 5 above.) so if idou doesnt use 12MP cmos sensor from exmor like what you said so tell me, which other 12MP cmos sensor will be used on idou ? tell me pls with the link too!!!
then where is your information to prove idou doesnt use 12MP exmor cmos sensor ?list the link what you have pls!!
prove it...prove it!!!
dont to much speak bullshit at here, just prove it!!
give us your link where you got the information every you complain our comments :)
thanks and GBU!
be a fair!
Just a general comment:
Yes, the model is not released yet.
Like many other models.
Yes comparison is not practical totally.
But, we can still talk about the facts already released:
- some features
- some specs (size, battery, internal memory, resolution etc.)
Obviously, reliability and performance are remained to be seen.
And if anybody see an outdated specs or features is is totally reasonable to voice an opinion even though the model is not released yet.
1000 mAh battery is a bad joke!
It is published all over the net for long time now. There are SE reps here and no official deny yet - I wonder why?
(because the initial publication was correct - it was not a mistake - SE announced the Idou with a 1000mAh battery)
and they still quite about it (for weeks!!!!)! The planning and reaction are totally incompetent.
˝We are all emotional being, please consider our feelings before spilling some vague and vulgar language. Peace to you, my friend ˝
- very nice idea!!!!! Thanks
A little contradictory behavior from this person may be:
˝I am totally fed up with most of you here.˝
- not to peaceful and tolerant :))))
˝Any other discussion is irrelevant so please shut it!˝
- full of understanding and openness :)))
˝Are they blind or simply retarded? ˝
- makes an extra effort not to insult anybody :))))
Peace to you also but may be you should also look up the dictionary - ´peace´ ´tolerance´
Enjoy your Idou! (in October!)
˝According to german Sony Ericsson Idou will be available in October, but not later than November.˝
If soemdody tells me thsi - it is easy to see it has no credibility.
it will be available in October? than no need to say no later than November.
This manager unable to make a straight (honest) sentence!
They made the same promises with X1, C902, W890 etc.
What I want to hear - By who and where this model will be manufactured????
It seems nobody can tell these. 5 months !!!! before release there is no clue about the manufacture site????? Come on!
I hope it is clear to everyone SE is unable to make this model by itself.
Sagem is a partner but .... :)))
they make SE models, but I think this would be over their head... or not?
No DVB-H TV broadcast receiver - that is already one limit. (existing feature)
No projector (we want unlimited entertainment, also already developed)
Limited internal memory
These are all limiting factors - producing limited entertainment
“Unlimited entertainment” is just so stu..id that I can not understand how reps can repeated over and over again.
bika, 13 Apr 2009In the future idou will not fighting with omnia hd. They both even will get married. Then they... moreYes, I agree.
Bika always correct :)
Samsung will buy Se and ... well I have no idea what can gain :)
... who needs a 12mp camera with lousy lens and slow processor.
In the future idou will not fighting with omnia hd. They both even will get married. Then they will get a child named omnidou, a super phone that will save our planet.
Sony Ericsson in Germany has now informed that the sales of Sony Ericsson’s 12 MP mobile Idou will start in October or November. Sony Ericsson’s german product manager also says that Idou is just the first model in a series of entertainment phones from Sony Ericsson.
It is to the german WEB site Teltarif Sony Ericsson’s german product and pr manager now has given more details about the rumoured super mobile from Sony Ericsson.
- Idou is the project name for the first phone model. The focus for this project and the promis behind it is “Unlimited entertainment”. It is much more than just picture and music functions, for instance games, social networks or complete video services says Sony Ericsson’s german product manager Steffen Grosch.
More models in the series with focus on “unlimited entertainment” as in Idou are also on the way, according to Sony Ericsson’s german product manager.
Sony Ericsson Idou will have Symbian’s new operating system, which among other things is based on Nokia’s Series 60 and Sony Ericsson’s UIQ. The system will according to Symbian be complete around the summer.
Idou will also have a 12 MP camera, built-in GPS and a large 3.5″ touch screen.
According to german Sony Ericsson Idou will be available in October, but not later than November.
Director, 13 Apr 2009You can find it in page 7, if I am not mistaken. Or you can check it out at the unofficial SE... morehi bro..
dont take it seriously
this is not your problem..
they dont know the link coz they didnt read it carefully and coz they dont want to know good thing of idou so they skipped the link.let them to find the link by them selves
Director, 13 Apr 2009You can find it in page 7, if I am not mistaken. Or you can check it out at the unofficial SE... moreand dont get me wrong men, i like idou, infact its the second phone for me.. n97 being the 3rd..
oh well, GBU =D
Director, 13 Apr 2009You can find it in page 7, if I am not mistaken. Or you can check it out at the unofficial SE... moreHey im not saying any bad words or anything.. lol..
im just saying that it not yet confirmed that it will be release in october.. then you started to say some emotional things.. lol
hey, i just cant find it on the OFFICIAL website.. link please!
indra, 13 Apr 2009i think you dont know about me and my friend at all so stop your complain like that and i thin... moreThanks for the info dude^^ I am really looking forward to get my idou. Really love it =D Please keep us updated. I sincere thanks to you. GOD bless you^^