I have never seen a SE fanboy posting in Nokia or Samsung forums (I never do it for myself and even if I do I don't bash them), but I always see the Nokia and Samsung guys jumping in SE's forum and start bashing them, even if the phone is better than its competitor..
This clearly shows the attention SE gets from their phones. SE has been a great brand, but for sometimes things didn't went right for them and so their criticizers are not leaving any chance to bash them (even if the product is good)..
@ryk I accept that you believe Vivaz Pro is a good phone and probably better than N97 mini in most of the aspects.. So, discussion finished..
SE 2010, 20 Feb 2010Dear Rahul,
Please don't even bother replying on ryk. Because the truth is that all he want... moreVery heartfelt brothers bonding on a public forum, I can see.
But SE 2010 don't lie, "buddy". Have you forgotten Xperia X1's forum discussion on and after 2009-12-16. Here's a quick link to refresh your memory : http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_e...-2246p15.php
I wasn't bashing Sony Ericsson but was defending X1 against a surprising onslaught by a loser like you. I defeated you then, never forget that. Its recorded by GSMArena.
Again I want to stress that Vivaz Pro has been placed in the market against N97 mini by Sony Ericsson. Clearly there's nothing ambiguous about that. The fact that it has a 5 MP camera unlike Vivaz's 8 MP is a clear indication that its meant to eat into N97 mini's market share. How sucessful it'll be is still to be seen.
But what I want to say is that a person having come across Vivaz Pro should buy it after making an informed decision about its competition. Why do you have a problem about Vivaz Pro being compared to N97 mini? Do you think it won't stand a chance? You know, I'm not as naive as you to think so. There will be many who will choose Vivaz Pro over mini and I welcome their decision. But there will be many who'd have reservations about Sony Ericsson looking at their previous phones. Its just fair to make them aware of their options.
Nowhere does I say that Vivaz Pro is a bad phone as is being made to appear by SE 2010 (like he usually do).
How come the vivaz pro version comes with 5mp camera and the vivaz with an 8mp?????
surely the pro version should have the better camera.
Rahul, 20 Feb 2010Dude, when someone does something for the first time, then some flaws with that work is natura... moreDear Rahul,
Please don't even bother replying on ryk. Because the truth is that all he wants is to bash SE. I have seen most of his comments for some time now, and you must trust me when I tell you all he does is bash SE and try to make them look bad. He is not fair, he has no logic, his ideas are even pathetic and funny sometimes.
So my advice for you is not to waste your time with him, he just can't stand how strong and admirable SE are, and the more he looks at fans the more he gets crazier. Well, I guess this is what we could call a loser.
ryk, 19 Feb 2010I'm (seriously) not going to reply to some crazy post. They claim that I bash Sony Ericsson bu... moreif n97 mini was dat good.why orange remove it frm her portfolio? u r soo., blind a nokia fan.
75 mb internal memory .. wtf!!! where do we download the apps on . nexus has 192 mb internal memory and thats still less !!!
flop show SE !!!
ryk, 19 Feb 2010I'm (seriously) not going to reply to some crazy post. They claim that I bash Sony Ericsson bu... moreDude, when someone does something for the first time, then some flaws with that work is natural. That is what happened with Satio (I am a Satio user), but the software update solved most of the problem. And what do you think Sony Ericsson is? A baby sitter company learning to make mobile? Listen dude, they were the BEST, the last two months where horrible for them, but that doesn't mean they are CRAP.
I am sure that the Symbian phones from Sony Ericsson after Satio wont have bugs (Can't help if an idiot like Nokia can't solve by itself, but it is open source now, so Sony Ericsson can do it for itself). And you mean to say this phone wont stand in front of N97? Get a Life.. This is a N97 mini KILLER!!! You will see that yourself, just wait and watch..
Sikorsky, 19 Feb 2010Symbian beats WinMo in ever aspect. And rumours about WinMo being more 'stabile' is from peopl... moreu mean more stable and beta than android?.wow. nokia and apple are afraid of android u know.
A hands on the Vivaz Pro (with images and videos):
Now this is what I am talking about , 16 millions of colours and hd recording.Great phone se keep up the good work.
I'm (seriously) not going to reply to some crazy post. They claim that I bash Sony Ericsson but all I do is draw comparison between phones that are placed in the same segment of the market. Both has Symbian (which by the way has been made open source by Nokia), both has Series 60 (owned and developed by Nokia), Both has a 5 MP camera, 3.2 inches nHD resistive touchscreen (decided to be standard for Symbian by Nokia), full QWERTY keyboard, HSDPA & Wifi, also GPS (Nokia phones comes with free lifetime turn by turn voice guided navigation license), TV out.
Ofcourse Vivaz pro has its positives like faster clocked processor, better video recording @ HD 720p and N97 mini has larger in built memory @ 8 GB, has basic useful features like proximity sensor and secondary videocall camera (both of which are missing on Vivaz Pro).
Also its already out and has been tried and tested. See this for more : http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_...w-417p12.php
And Sony ericsson has recently created a bad reputation with X2/Idou/Aino. How do I believe it'll not go down the same path.
As a phone user I would like to have more features to use than probably the unnoticeable fast processing power of the phone. N97 mini isn't slow anyway.
I don't want a phone without secondary front facing camera as I can't do without videocall. I would love to have added functionality that my phone is capable of.
Looking at both the brands, Nokia is number one, Numero Uno. And its ascending uphill with touchscreen devices. Sony Ericsson is already down the hill, don't know where they'll go from here.
But Vivaz Pro is still not out yet. Hopefully it'll not be buggy as Idou or Aino. But I don't think it'll be anywhere close to the aura of N97 mini.
ryk, 19 Feb 2010I completely agree with you Spawner. Vivaz pro is far better than Xperia X2 or Idou or Aino. I... moreWell at least I respect Spawner much more than you! Although he is not a SE fan, he still is decent and admits that this Device is remarkable.
You on the other hand, are trying to prove that the nokia n97 mini is better LooL! How ironic :)
Although the mini has half the ram, half the CPU, half the battery life. Plus, the vivaz pro has HD recording.
You claim that the mini is a better choice? Do you see the huge difference between you and him?
Both of you are not fans of SE, but one is man enough to admit that a device is good, the other is hmmm I prefer not to say :D
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970Well maybe because I'm not a kido and I don't report you? Unlike you, instead of facing me all you can do is report!
Look ryk in the beginning I though you had a point of view and some good experience, but for my disappointment all you are is a person who keeps bashing SE and in return SE keeps kicking us as* lol.
Just drop it will ya? I would like to see one useful comment, talk about any other thing. Why only bash SE? I understand you hate them but you just have to learn to live it :D
Billions of people love and believe in SE, so not you, and not even a million can change this simple fact :>
Spawner, 19 Feb 2010This is a great SE phone.
The only Downside for me are the annoying Fanboy'sI completely agree with you Spawner. Vivaz pro is far better than Xperia X2 or Idou or Aino. It is interesting though that Sony Ericsson has completely shelved its previous touchscreen interface and are starting off afresh. What better than Nokia's often proven S60 to do that. With Vivaz pro they have seriously challenged Nokia's own phones. N97 mini in particular. But have a look at this :
If somebody ask me what would you choose, looking at Sony Ericsson's and Nokia's past record I'd say mini.
Symbian is now open source. It is a high possibility that Nokia might upgrade N97 mini to Symbain^3 which Nokia has developed. Sony Ericsson is in some trouble and they would rather make money than waste resources upgrading sold phones.
That's my opinion, what do you say?
This is a great SE phone.
The only Downside for me are the annoying Fanboy's
klcc, 18 Feb 2010dear pbra,i understand vivaz pro runs on symbian 3,,which wud u recommend,,if given a choice,w... moreSymbian beats WinMo in ever aspect. And rumours about WinMo being more 'stabile' is from people who NEVER used Symbian i guess. I have tried them all (only Blacberry OS is 'virgin' for me) and Symbian is the best so far, without any doubt.