No,no,no!!. I completely reject the backwards, regressive, prehistoric comments of mfdh and mfx2. Of course a high-end phone should be judged on its features. There are phones to suit all types. If you don't need certain features you buy simpler phones. The choice is yours. If you need many features you buy high-end phones. The SE W960 is certainly high-end. As I said in an earlier post, at the high-end level the phone becomes the multimedia device for communication for which making calls is only ONE function. Internet, radio, phone calls, camcording, photos, e-mail, sms, WLAN, GPS are all forms of communication: their relative use depends on the individual. Mfdh says he uses his phone mainly for calls. That's up to him. I know many who use their "phone" (multimedia device) mainly for receiving e-mails and sending texts. It is ridiculous for mfdh to tell us what we should be using our multimedia devices ("phones") for. Oh yes and WLAN is great because it gives fast internet connectivity and its FREE. You don't have to pay massive data charges. For mfdh to deride WLAN (which is in truth a brilliant invention) because it saps the battery is pure Neanderthal caveman thinking. The amount of battery that's used depends on how long you use the feature. If you know your battery well then you realise that certain features will have time limits but that does not mean they shouldn't be used; and it doesn't mean that manufacturers are wrong in putting these features into phones. Like I said earlier, if you don't need many features buy a less sophisticated phone. Mfdh should realize that it is impractical to lug a camcorder, dedicated camera, laptop and radio everywhere you go. Phones developed into multimedia devices because we take them everywhere. The plethora of functions may not be as good as the dedicated device BUT we are only asking for reasonable standards. Thus a friend of features will expect VGA(30fps) camcording. Why? Because it produces watchable videos of reasonable quality - even on the big screen. Nokia's N93 proved this. A friend of features would expect at least a 3.2MP camera. Why? Because it produces photos of print quality. The SE K800i proved this. I had both phones and neither had problems with battery life because I respected the limitations of the devices. Anyway it is not as if most people live in the forest. If mfdh is Tarzan please tell us. Most people have access to electricity on a daily basis. There are also subsidiary ways of charging eg car charger, solar charger etc. SE with this new multimedia device that combines features of K,P and W series are moving forward. I have my reservations about it that I have detailed in earlier posts but there is certainly the strong feeling that SE are moving towards making the quintessential all-in-one multimedia device. I hope that SE will strive on within this new important category regardless of regressives like mfdh. Forward ever; backward NEVER!!
Most high-end phones like Samsung's P520, LG's KE850 Prada or even Nokia's "Crown Jewel" the N95 are limited only to viewing documents... Not the W960!!! Way to go SE!!!
i've seen people complaining about battery life after buying a very high end gadgets but take my words....u cant go wrong with SE
i have this phone and its good it kills any nokia out there , you nav.. on the screen with the pen that slides out on the side
no hscds, no IR, no HSPDA not a 5 mega pic phone. cheap looking phone. like the SE previously released.
pretty gud fone wlan is a cool function and anyone who complains about the camera should go buy sumthin else
To the one who was asking where the navigation keys are:
The W960 does not have navigation keys 'cause it's touch-screen, you navigate with the screen... I think. :))
Haha, hope I helped you. :)
i m wondering where is the navigation keys?
its on the left side!
where the volym buttons use to be =)
this ph is not out yet!! have to wait atleast till dec 07. coz P1 just came out and SE will be killing themselves if they produce this ph now. no one will buy P1.
This fone is simply gorgeous! What a user interface. I love the walkman touch player. It is simply amazing. And plus the fact that SE makes very usable, durable, feature rich phone in a stylish package. This phone is a must and will replace my k810 and ipod.
tsk tsk. Poor display. 3.2 cam only. Touchscreen for nothing. Small screen size small to touch with the stylus or of your fingertips. Not that good OS. And a box type kinda phone.
also in the USA website in went to the phone setup and w960 is listed on their. i went to the UK website and it has a coming soon star and its not listed on the phone setup.
IS IT AVAILABLE BCZ I WANT IT NOW !!!!!!!
has any1 been in the USA sony ericsson website? well thise phone W960 and w910 does not have the coming soon star so are they availabe ?
when approximately will this phone release? and what will its price be? sony ericsson has finally hit the nail on the head with this one... i wonder why they continue with the k700i-k750i joystick in some of their latest cybershot phones... i owned a k750i for 2 years, and the first thing that went was the joystick... i dropped it in a bucket of water... the screen blanked out.. i took it out, dried it and 2 days later it worked like nothing had happened :D
I think you misread what I was saying. I did not say I "disliked" mobiles and nor am I a brand b!tch. So long as the phone operates perfectly as a "phone", looks good and is pocket-friendly then I'm interested. I find a mobile phone essential as a phone, nothing more. Most people on this site seem to find a mobile essential as a camera/MP3 player/games console and nothing more...
I was saying why do people make such a big deal of "third rate" features on mobile phones and why have they forgotten that the principle operation of a mobile is, believe it or not, to communicate.
In which case things like a camera, wi-fi, storage, etc should be secondary considerations, not primary. This is because certain phones (like my current D900) are very clumsy at what they are principly designed for - like texting. Which is why I can't wait to dump it for the Nokia 6500 which is slim and runs Symbian - an excellent OS.
The W960 is a gorgeous looking phone, but it is a bit on the "big" side, plus if I use it as a MP3 player, etc then calling people is going to be very, very frustrating because I am never going to have any battery life remaining. So it has put me off - the features of this phone have actually hindered, not enhanced it. And if I am not using them, then why should I consider this phone if there are slimmer and potentially more "able" (in terms of phoning, texting, internet access, etc), yet less "feature-packed" (which are not a consideration because of their major flaws), phones out there?
Also, as I have said, even wi-fi is pointless if you have 3G - 3G can connect you to the internet using far, far less battery power.
With regards to a phones features, they might hold some weight if a) none of us owned cameras, PCs, games consoles, MP3 players, etc or b) said features were as good as their standalone hardware.
But wo do own what's listed in a) and it will be a very, very long time before the features of a mobile exceed what I have stated in b).
In which case, why is everyone so concerned about the scabby "features" of a mobile? Who cares?
I would prefer they left out cameras and everything else until they had properly nailed bettery life and producing first rate integrated cameras/MP3 players meaning that we as consumers no longer need to buy cameras, iPods, etc as standalone devices because our mobiles are perfect replacements - something which is currently the complete opposite.
Digital convergence will eventually happen, but purchasing mobiles with flawed and already dated features like 5MP cameras - which are only just beginning to get proper flash - or 8GB MP3 players which aren't as good as standalone devices seems pointless, not least when you consider battery life limitations coupled with the fact that these very features hinder the phones original intentions - to communicate.
Why take snaps all day and listen to music for a few hours when the whole reason why you have a phone - to call or communicate with someone - you can't do because you have been using the "secondary" features of your phone and you have run out of battery life? It is counterproductive and almost ironic in it's flawed design and premise.
So to sum up what I am saying: I use a mobile for communications, nothing more. This is because the inbuilt camera/MP3 player etc uses up valuable battery life which I need for the principle reason as to why I own a mobile. These features are also no where near as good as a standalone MP3 player, camera, etc (which do not use up my mobile phone battery). Combine this with poor battery life and you are left wondering why everyone makes such a big fuss about features?
Would you rave about the latest Ferrari if it didn't quite have the fastest engine and only did 5 miles to the gallon? And if you get what I am saying, then I am suprised you have not noticed that the latest mobiles are no different...