Taking photos with phone? For great pictures I use my Canon, Nikon etc.
WM vs. other? At moment there is no other OS for me.
Internet, charts are important (800x480). This phone is smaller than laptop and better than PDA (resolution).
But it's true than 5MP is bigger than 3,2 and
16M is bigger than 65K.
I never play serius game on phone.
Bigger diagonal is more important, than 5MP vs.3,2MP (for me).
I think everybody will buy the suitable phone. SE, Nokia and others.
I am waiting for trying this phone. If something is not OK for me, I will not buy it.
lol if you take a photo at 2MP it's going to have 2million pixels no matter what camera you use.If you want high quality LARGE photo's then you need a higher pixel cam.The lens,sensor,drivers etc is more important than pixel count.
sources from Sweden and Finland offer a revealing look inside Symbian development and how the OS is regarded at Nokia, and what that means
One developer writes, “In most regards, Symbian's reputation as a modern, robust, stable and advanced OS for smartphones is not well deserved.
“I have a done several Symbian projects and have a thorough knowledge and low-level understanding of Symbian. And I just hate it.It's a very bad and uninspiring OS even from a programmers point of view.”
Sources close to Nokia say that Symbian is secretly regarded inside the company--even among high level senior executives--as a "piece-of-shit-OS," explaining that “Finnish people usually have a very coarse language.”
A Symbian developer explains, “Nokia is more or less stuck with Symbian since it doesn't have the competence nor the time to make a new OS from the ground up. Its only alternative, in practice, is to go Linux, which it is of course experimenting with, but it's still not an easy path to go.
The Three Symbians
“That's one of the reasons why Nokia is investing so much in the S60 middleware used on top of Symbian. S60 is so large and complex today, that I would regard S60 an OS itself, with Symbian as the kernel. It gives Nokia more control to add and change things on its own.
“Sony Ericsson, as one of the other large Symbian owners and licensee, just bought UIQ in November last year to get control of its own flavor of Symbian. UIQ is quite similar to Nokia's S60 and should also be regarded as its own OS with Symbian as the kernel.
“From one point of view, there are no ‘Symbian’ phones in the market, but rather three incompatible and diverging OSs: NTT DoCoMo's Symbian MOAP for Asia, Nokia’s Symbian S60, and Sony Ericsson’s Symbian UIQ.
“To make it even worse from a third party developer's point of view, Nokia and Symbian made the new S60 version 3 binary incompatible to previous versions of S60. So none of your old Symbian apps will work on any new phones (i.e. if you actually bought any :-).
“And of course UIQ has never been source code nor binary compatible with S60. But still you get the impression from analysts and media that ‘Symbian’ is one stable OS.
“For S60 version 3, they have introduced a new security model where it's necessary to sign all apps with VeriSign to even get them to run. Something that costs several hundreds of dollars per year, just for the certificates, and makes shareware and hobby programming almost impossible from now on.
“Some operators are requiring the phones to be locked for any apps not carrying a ‘Symbian Signed’ certificate. Which means, you have to pay for a certification process where you are checked by Symbian, why you developed the application and why you want to use certain capabilities on the phone, e.g. read and store user data, using the telephony APIs, or the WIFI capabilities etc.
“All in the name of security, but of course it will be very tough to make programs, independently, that use functionality that's not in the interest of the operators, such as non-operator controlled Voice over IP.
“So much for independently third-party software development on Symbian compared to the ‘closed’ model used on iPhone. In practice the difference is not that big. Apple will, of course, allow close partners to develop apps like they do with iPod Games today.
Symbian Design Issues
“When it comes to the myth of Symbian being a modern and robust OS, I have several objections. Symbian is severely limited by design decisions made in the beginning of '90. The design decisions were maybe okay at that point in time, when the target was Psion's EPOC and EPOC32-based Series 3 & 5 with extreme memory and resource constraints compared with today's devices.
“I could make a very long list of the problems but I'll just summarize a few key areas:
•Crippled C++ support. Symbian is C++ based—at least on the surface. When EPOC32 was designed (about 1993-1994 I think), there were very few good C++ compiler with full support for the newest C++ features like exceptions. Exceptions is the main feature in C++ for correct and efficient error handling. The other alternative is to use error codes like most operating systems use in their C APIs.
Symbian chose to select neither technique. They made their own home-cooked version of exceptions called Leaves. With an exception in C++, any memory or other resources in allocated objects are deallocated automatically in the correct order (deterministic destruction by calling each object's destructor). This makes it (relatively) easy to make correct programs in C++ for both small and large projects.
In Symbian when a error is signaled with a leave (‘throw an exception’) no objects are deallocated. They just leak, if you don't manually record each object allocated to be cleaned up. This process is extremely tedious, error prone and boring. The result is that it's very hard and time consuming to make correct programs in Symbian, on the verge to be impossible in many cases.
C++ is a great language because of the advanced features, like exception handling with automatic cleanup (search for RAII, Resource Allocation Is Initialization), the standard C++ library (formerly called the STL library with lots and lots of support code for handling of data in containers-like lists and maps and tree structures, strings, algorithms, support for template code and last but not the least—all the standard patterns, practices and idioms all experienced C++ programmer are using on all design problems they are faced with.
If you remove the foundation for standard C++ development, it all falls together. Every design decision means the programmer has to think from the ground up to make a completely new architecture for the design because the normal way of thinking and the normal guarantees C++ and experience gives, doesn't apply anymore. It really turns an experienced programmer into almost a beginner with lousy tools. It's a nightmare for both programmer and development managers.
•Confusing and limited string handling. There is no real support for a proper string handling. To use strings on Symbian you have to use a home-cooked and strange system of ‘descriptors.’ Every new programmer to Symbian spends the first weeks struggling just to understand how (and why) this system works.
The reason was apparently to save a few bytes on each string. But of course, today, that's not even close to being relevant. Maybe a small point but, it's yet another point that makes Symbian hard to use, hard to understand and hard to port programs to/from other platforms.
Do you critics know what you can achieve with a Windows Pda?Some applications are almost DESKTOP CLASS. Have you ever heard of xda-developers?Have a look there and get a inkling of what goes on in the PPC world.Now lets get back to the Xperia X1...
Dude I've never posted on the TyTN.pjox is an ip for sky broadband.@Steve how can resolution be so important in photo's yet IYO resolution on a screen is not a big factor?!C'mon it affects Clarity of images,text,video's....everything!
pJOx, so we meet again! I remember having some interesting discussions with you on the HTC TyTN II thread.
My point is if you want serious mobile computing one needs a laptop not SE X1.
As for WM6 it is a juice guzzling OS that will struggle to run a high resolution screen without serious slowdown.
Furthermore WM have always been envious of Symbian's multimedia ability. The capacity to entertain the consumer. Look the SE X1 is the first WM device to offer camcording at VGA, 30fps! Absolutely ridiculous considering the many WM phones on the market. If WM are as serious as you claim why do they venture into entertainment when they mess it up with below par performance?
Xperia uses WM6.1 because symbian is a weak OS.Symbian fans need to ask themselves why Nokia bought Trolltech.If Symbian was powerful enough why would Nokia be interested in linux?
Mmm... The laws of Physics, pixel counts and high resolution... intriguing.
If one takes two cameras, all variables being equal except one is 3.2MP and the other 5MP. They both take a picture of the same scene under the same conditions. 5"by 7" prints are made. The 5MP camera will show more detail because there are more pixels making up the photo.
As for high resolution and colour: the human retina with its millions of cones and rhods (light sensitive cells) can definitely tell the difference between 65K and 16.7M colours. QVGA screens married to 16.7M are adequate for multimedia eg viewing photos as long as the diagonal dimension does not exceed 3 inches. Conversely VGA or WVGA married to 65K colours is great for viewing graphs, tables and charts as seen in business phones.
While there are some Symbian s60 devices that deserve the title "smartphone," Their's no SERIOUS level of application support or data usage.
Walk up to the user of a Nokia Series 60 phone, and ask them what OS they're running.The most likely response will be a blank stare. People don't buy most Symbian s60 devices because they think they're for data, they buy them for camera's and because they're considered to be "cool phones."
As of now,the only smartphone platforms really worth mentioning are Windows, Blackberry,linux.To extend the courtesy to all Symbian devices,is to strain credulity.
Of course,to offer a reasonable definition of "smartphone" would drastically slash their sales numbers, which would make it more difficult to produce an attention-grabbing and misleading headline for your research company's report.
this phone is a masterpiece! wow! it has extra added features built inside this phone
Maaannn why does it have winmo!!
symbian vs. Winmo
(hate to say it but....) symbian wins .
I say let's all go get some iPhones!!!!!!!
lol It's insane how people can be fooled by numbers!Wait until someone introduces a 10 MP Cameraphone..People will rush out and buy it despite having no idea about photography or the simple physics concerning high pixel count and small sensors.
Yup everybody who thinks a QVGA screen with 16 million colors is better than a WVGA screen with 65k colors definately dosen't have a clue same with the imbeciles who natter on about 5MP camera cells.If you need to print large photo's you would get a standalone camera with a far bigger sensor.
as far as i know all sony ericsson cells are great, but little information is given about this cells sound quality..........but it doesn't matter...the cell is great...........lets see the price onc it is said!! that will be the main factor
still its not a 5megapixel phone its doesnt matter if i dont print a large photo or not but i want the best for my money if ill spend money ill make sure its a 5 megapixel phone doenst matter if i use it or not as long its worth it would you spend big bucks for a 3.2?
I suppose if you had moved from a Java phone to a Symbian mobile you might rate symbian Apps but yeah most sis apps are vastly inferior to WM.Symbian has better games though.
Symbian phones have 5MP camera's but where's the symbian imaging applications to properly manipulate the image?Symbian imaging apps SUCK
They should put the xenon flash and a bigger hard disk of about 8GB minimum!
this is the best phone I have ever seen.
Everybody wants to have 5MP camera, stereo mic and speaker,xenon flash, 16M colors. Why???
5MP phone camera quality= 1-2MP real camera quality.
If you want to make a photo use a real camera.
16M vs. 65K colors is the same for me in this size.
QUERTY keyboard and 800x480 resolution are very important for me. At the moment I have a PDA with 320x240 resolution. It's a joke. For internet is not enough. I cannot use internet.
Stereo mic is better than mono? For me is more than enough the mono. No difference.
WM is also very important for me. I can use much more program. Much more!!
400MB memory? Maybe it will be raised to 1GB.
I will buy the EXPERIA