Hey guys! i am willing a smartphone! my options is lgg4 and z5!!i mostly needed camera and bettary life!!should i go with z5 cuz i heard some negetive point of camera!
Tann Hauser, 19 Nov 2015Of course, if he is bashing it without substantial proof...
You seem to have problems with de... moreI would say it is you who has that problem.
You see where I to accuse someone of trolling it would be because that actually are. Not just because they are being negative about my favourite brand.
I say it again, you don't give a dam about trolling, you just care about you personal little quest to protect Sonys image!
Lex79, 19 Nov 2015It is useless talking with you and those like you.
Put it this way your little buddy Dual H... moreOf course, if he is bashing it without substantial proof...
You seem to have problems with definitions
Not my problem though....
Tann Hauser, 18 Nov 2015Do not change the subject, the subject was false claimed heating and overheating comments, not... moreIt is useless talking with you and those like you.
Put it this way your little buddy Dual Heatpipes is over on the iPhone 6S thread bad mouthing that device and waffling on about a Sony product or two (as to be expected).
Now by your logic, and given the the fact he is slagging off the iPhone 6S on it own page on here, does that make him a troll????
One of the best android device.
I have the first Xperia arc s for 5 years ago -running like new.
Know I buy new Z 5 -It's amazing!
Sony the best!!!
To all non sony fans I ask u to leave this forum. Stop degrading sony's brand and its flagship phones.Stop giving false information and giving sarcastic comments. If u dont intend to buy or own its unit better go with iphone,samsung,lg,Huawei, HTC and etc... Follow ur heart and buy the phones and brand to ur liking. STOP MESSING. This FORUM. Don't bother to comeback. Just leave this forum in peace or even rest in peace.
Lex79, 18 Nov 2015Commentors, that's what you would call them. Misinformed though they may sometimes be.
But ... moreDo not change the subject, the subject was false claimed heating and overheating comments, not SoC real performance and throtlling
Every device out there heats up, and every device out there throtlles its performance before cooling down....somecmore some less, some faster some slower, fact.
But commentATORS on sony thread here indeed come to troll with sarcastic ill minded hypocritical comments that are just not true...fact.
And yes, I react accordingly sarcasticly calling them what they indeed are.
So, you are not a troll for calling a phone that in reality does not overheat a frying pan, iron device etc....and on its own thread,
But I am a fanboy for calling you a liar because of it?
What a hypocritical stand you have...
Tann Hauser, 18 Nov 2015Actually a lot of them are making such ignorant claims of overheating....whilst it is just not... moreCommentors, that's what you would call them. Misinformed though they may sometimes be.
But on the issue of over heating, now that's subjective, technically no device or SOC over heats. if they did we'd all know about it. They do however need to throttle performance to combat thermal variance, some more so and quicker so than others.
The 810 is one of the more aggressive in this regard, and it there is a strong argument to be made that something in Sony's Xperia design language exasperates this issue further.
Notice I said an argument can be made, the act of making that argument is itself not trolling, even if some would do so with a hint or more of sarcasm thrown in.
Counter the argument by all means, but don't jump to the accusation stage straight of the bat. I just can't help but get the feeling that trolls themselves or trolling itself is not what bothers you (otherwise you would be policing all the comments sections on here), it's just criticism of Sony that riles you up.
This is textbook fanboy behavior and should answer your question as to what could be considered a negative aspect of being a brand fan.
Myself, I don't care for brand favoritism, I just use what I like when I like, could care less where it comes from. I currently use an Apple Phone, Samsung Tv, Windows 10 laptop, and PS4 among other things, that could all change at any time to an android phone, Panasonic TV, Mac and an Xbox One for example. if and when that happens, the brand is just one aspect I consider in making a purchase (not the ONE thing I consider).
Lex79, 18 Nov 2015Are getting sponsored to use that word or something?????
You must be, you posted that last ... moreActually a lot of them are making such ignorant claims of overheating....whilst it is just not true.
What else would I call them?
And I beg your pardon, but I am a sony user and a fan, and I keep my ass mostly to sony threads. And discuss about it with more substance than w whole lot a bunch of them
Dont see how is that a bad thing....
Care to explain?
Lex79, 18 Nov 2015Easy there, you may not have noticed, but this is not the place for any negative comments rega... moreThose people are who SUPPORT Sony. Supporting a brand won't make you a Sony agent. What are we supposed to call you, Avan Dr and nikolasdi? Samsung agents paid for bashing Sony? Please, this is a sony post and hence NORMAL to find Sony fans here. What are you bashers doing here, may I ask? This proves that you are paid for bashing Sony, or you're just some pathetic person.
Tann Hauser, 18 Nov 2015Now there, you decide to troll me on a personal level....
Expected from likes of you.
I ca... moreAre getting sponsored to use that word or something?????
You must be, you posted that last comment twice.
I have read this particular section back far as page 20 and all I have seen is the likes of you policing any comments to which you don't agree, funny how I don't find you doing as such on any subject that doesn't involve Sony.
No one is saying it's only Sony phones that heat up, if you look around (i.e. articles that are not directly related to Sony) you would see most of the current crop of 810 based devices have been the subject of such scrutiny. There is a recognised issue, why else would we be on version 2.1 of the SOC, why else would Sony choose to employ Dual Heatpipes, or Microsoft use it's liquid based cooling solution in its 810 based 950 XL.
Bu no, like I said, if it isn't about Sony, then you are not interested. Post links by all means, anybody can do this both for and against the subject in question, ands argue your side of the conversation, but hold of on the 'Troll' accusation, whilst it does exist indeed, making a sarky comment that you don't agree is not necessarily a indication of trolling.
Lex79, 18 Nov 2015Been reading up on the definition of trolling have you?? well this is progress I must say.
... moreNow there, you decide to troll me on a personal level....
Expected from likes of you.
I call out trolls who exclusively claim ONLY Sony phones heat up, while NEVER mentioning other brands in commenting.
That is by definition unsubstantianted brand trashing, you know, thing that Sammy pays people to do, as PROVEN by a link I provided down below.
Calling me a fan boy for using the "troll" definition for someone, by its true merit...., is personal trolling
So I could call you a double troll, yes.
And I would NOT by definition be wrong. ;-)
Tann Hauser, 18 Nov 2015Easy there, trolls...
Using a nonsubstantiated claim and adding a "could use to iron your clo... moreBeen reading up on the definition of trolling have you?? well this is progress I must say.
But then considering that accusing people of trolling is something of a hobby of yours, you kind of had to at some point didn't you.
I'll admit the commenter in question has chosen to employ a certain degree of sarcasm in making their point, however had they directed that comment at, oh lets say the One M8, or Galaxy S6 or any other non Sony device, I highly doubt they would have ruffled your feathers so much now would they???
I appears you only care about what you consider to be trolling when it is directed at Sony products. In so doing you become a nothing more than a fanboy, which is just the other side of the same coin.
Easy there, trolls...
Using a nonsubstantiated claim and adding a "could use to iron your clothes" is by definition a troll comment
Which makes you guys, well, either dumb or trolls, but certainly not objective or smart.
Your pick.... ;-)
jassi123, 18 Nov 2015Exactly... No need to usr for 5 min, swith on the camera fot just 2 minutrs or shoot video for... moreEasy there, you may not have noticed, but this is not the place for any negative comments regarding Sony Xperia phones, justified or otherwise.
The Z5 has Dual Heatpipes, so the issue's that plagued the Z3+ (which ironically Sony fans refused to accept was ever real anyway) have thus been sorted. One commenter has even named himself after the Dual Heatpipes, so they must be doing something right.
All I'm saying is just be careful or the self appointed Sony comment section sheriffs: Dual Heatpips, Tann Hauser, DenisXD, anu97awesome etc. will soon be along to throw wild accusations at you. Those accusations will take the form of:
3. Corporate stooge paid to 'defame' Sony! (Dual Heatpipes words)
It'll be one of the 3 as that's pretty much the extent of their conversational arsenal.