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Has anyone bought the black version of the E52 yet? These are now recently available in some regions, and wondering if these models are 2nd batch, they may have the new hardware / bug fixes...?
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- 2009-11-24 09:18
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> In reply to trf @ 2009-11-24 05:32 from vxriis a very good phone. =P
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- 2009-11-24 05:39
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- trf
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Hey OJ,
I think the E51 is very good phone, my cousin has that and for it's purpose as a good durable reliable phone the E52 really has nothing on that... unless you're going for the other 'modern' features.
Even out of the city where there are few cell sites it still has a very good signal quality or maybe his GSM provider is just better. dunno. ^_^
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I'm also think of getting the E51 white (not silver black) from Europe as a secondary phone.
Looks stylish and the build quality looks marvelous.
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E52 is a good phone but so is the E51.
Also some people complain about E52 'issues'... well.
E51 is still a great phone, anyway thought I'd just give my 2 cents. ^_^
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- 2009-11-24 05:32
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- muadiph
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> In reply to Original_Jamaican @ 2009-11-24 00:40 from ReEuI'm not really good about acoustics. But I do prefer to sound of the E51's speaker. E51's speaker sounds more solid.
I would recommend the E52 over the E51 but with the exception of build quality. The E52 may be okay. But the E51 was just built incredibly well and is solid to hold. The E52 feels... delicate.
It takes around 2hrs, 10mins to charge when turned off.
I find it hard to tell if the E52's ringing volume is really lower than E51 but it seems that way.
I rarely use the camera and camcorder. But it captures pics a lot faster than the E51. I can't comment on the quality, I'm not good with that matter also.
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- 2009-11-24 04:40
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- Anonymous
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From what many users say in this forum, as well at at Nokia forums, E52 is an unfinished phone.
I do hope that the problems with E52 are of software nature. Though, at least GSM antenna location leave doubt about the design.
The major problems this phone has are of fundamental nature:
- voice call quality
- GSM reception.
The rest, even if they are good, are of second imprtance for a phone.
In addition to the problems I have explained here, I have pointed out that signal bars are full in standby. However, they drop by 2-3 bars while in call (without changing the location). So, the signal bars in standby are false, or the signal really drops while in call (then, the phone has FW issues).
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- 2009-11-24 03:53
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From what many users say in this forum, as well at at Nokia forums, E52 is an unfinished phone.
I do hope that the problems with E52 are of software nature. Though, at least GSM antenna location leave doubt about the design.
The major problems this phone has are of fundamental nature:
- voice call quality
- GSM reception.
The rest, even if they are good, are of second imprtance for a phone.
In addition to the problems I have explained here, I have pointed out that signal bars are full in standby. However, they drop by 2-3 bars while in call (without changing the location). So, the signal bars in standby are false, or the signal really drops while in call (then, the phone has FW issues).
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- 2009-11-24 02:51
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> In reply to muadiph @ 2009-11-24 00:02 from Rx4STo MUADIPH:
GSMArena's review says the E52's audio quality is the best of the family...strange to hear you find the E51's quality is 'cleaner'. I have always found the E51's audio to be nice...maybe not as nice as phones like the 6300 which isn't a smart phone but reasonable enough to contend with many phones.
MUADIPH hands down, would you advise anyone to choose an E52 over E51 as a better upgrade ?
Also, when the battery runs out could you leave the phone in OFF MODE and charge it and tell me how long it takes to charge ?
My E51 charges in 1 hr. 25 mins. which is absolutely perfect. I know the E52 has a higher capacity battery so I don't expect the charging time to be as short as E51 but just perform this task for me and let me know please.
You never answered a few of my questions from my previous post.
1. How do you find the ringing volume ?
2. How do you find the camera and camcorder ?
Thanks for sharing.
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- 2009-11-24 00:40
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> In reply to Original_Jamaican @ 2009-11-23 23:44 from ReEuThe battery lasts about 4 days with approx. 3hours of 3g browsing, 2hours of music, and lots of sms, per day.
I rarely make or receive calls. But from the few that I've done, both volume and quality are good.
The speaker volume during music playback is lower than the E51. If E51's volume is a 10, the E52 would be an 8. The E51 also sounds 'cleaner'
Using the supplied earphones, sound quality and volume are just about the same.
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- 2009-11-24 00:02
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> In reply to muadiph @ 2009-11-23 23:36 from Rx4STo MUADIPH:
No problem my friend. We are here to help each other.
From I had the Nokia 3310 I realise Nokia's expectation was that the users hold their phones by the sides...and it makes sense because when you think about you can easily cover a cell phone with one hand so if you don't handle it by the sides then more than likely you will end up touching the antenna.
On average how long does your battery last, how do you find the ringing volume, how do you find the in-call volume when the phone is at your ear, how do you find the music playback volume (if you have touched that area) and finally how do you find the camera and camcorder ?
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- 2009-11-23 23:44
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To Original_Jamaican and TRF
Thanks about the info on the antenna's placement. I changed the way I'm holding the phone and the increase in signal was huge.
In one room in our house, it went from zero to full bars. I still have to hold the phone at the bottom when I'm texting but at least I could hold it on the sides when it's sending the message.
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- 2009-11-23 23:36
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Somebody Please explain main diff in E 52 and E55 apart from color alumuni black nothing upgrade same internal mem 60mb what a fool to pay 100$ extra, may be Made in Finland.firmware the same why explain now!
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- 2009-11-23 22:56
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> In reply to ramy @ 2009-11-23 17:55 from 3qR$Min 7 days...
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- 2009-11-23 22:07
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To TRF:
I always enjoy reading your inputs.
The top part of the E52 contains three antennas...Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and GPS.
The bottom part of the phone is where the cellular antenna is placed...which would explain the lower frequency signal many people are experience.
However, I may not have a problem with the frequency as I don't rest my palm on the back of the phone. I handle my phones by the side...ever since the Nokia 3310.
As I said, more than likely they placed the antenna there to reduce the SAR (radiation).
I got this information from the N86's manual. They label the antennas in the N86 and don't do it for E52's...makes me wonder if the N-Series team publishes the N-Series manual and the E-Series team publishes the E-Series manual instead of one department publishing ALL the manuals with the same information where applicable.
As I see it, most of the new phones from Nokia comes with the antennas at the bottom.
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- 2009-11-23 20:53
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- Original_Jamaican
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> In reply to Original_Jamaican @ 2009-11-23 15:32 from ReEuCorrection:
E51-1 SAR: 1.40
E51-2 SAR: 1.47
E52-1 SAR: 1.23
E52-2 SAR: 1.20
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- 2009-11-23 20:10
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- ramy
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how long does your battery lasts? ...with normal usage... some calls, some sms and e mails, wi fi, internet.
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- 2009-11-23 17:55
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> In reply to Original_Jamaican @ 2009-11-23 15:26 from ReEuThe speaker eats a lot of juice, so to help extend it they reduce the loudness of the volume.
louder volume = louder power consumption.
But yup, since it's a business phone it is designed for an office environment.
N series phones on the other hand are for more livelier places but won't last you very long.
Ah the world of business.. ^_^
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- 2009-11-23 16:16
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> In reply to Original_Jamaican @ 2009-11-23 15:32 from ReEuThere are actually 2 antenna locations. one near the bottom, the other near the camera.
but we need a disassembly video to confirm. ^_^
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- 2009-11-23 16:12
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- stjsw
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To all I use E52 since oct 23 and until now my E52 still working with a good perfomance. The fw is 21.013 no upgrade yet.
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- 2009-11-23 15:53
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- Original_Jamaican
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Earlier somebody said that the RF antenna is placed in an awkward area...the bottom of the phone...I will quite agree that the antenna is in an unusual spot but I guess that was to keep down the SAR as many people complained about the SAR in E51...even though I don't have a problem with it...anymore.
E51-1 SAR: 1.40
E52-2 SAR: 1.47
E52-1 SAR: 1.23
E52-2 SAR: 1.20
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- 2009-11-23 15:32
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- Original_Jamaican
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> In reply to Tutti Frutti @ 2009-11-23 06:15 from fXDETo TUTTI FRUTTI:
It's funny how Nokia make the ringing volume of business phones lower than that of their multimedia counterparts, for example N series.
You would expect a business phone to ring very loudly as business is crucial and nobody wants to miss a call where business is concerned.
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- 2009-11-23 15:26
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