HumongousPhoneLover , 07 Aug 2016Hey whitedragon have app developers updated their apps to scale properly for the 12.9 inch ipa... moreMy understanding is the Metal API (Application programing interface) makes excellent use of the hardware, and it is either that, or some other software process that renders apps to the screen at native resolution.
Not sure when it came about.. i think it was ios8 (maybe 7),.. that they realised that they were not going to have only three or four resolutions across all their hardware platforms and they would need a dynamic way to handle things going forward.
So, an answer:
Yes. For modern software, everything should be pixel sharp (not interpolated scaling), and should render to the screen in native resolution (anything written for the last few iOSs')
With regards to whether the interface will suit a huge screen...
This IS something that I have seen most software update to make use of.
(I regularly read what is fixed/amended/added through incremental version changes),.. and the last nine months or so,.. more and more software has added native/direct iPAD 12.9 support and/or Pencil support.)
All first gen stuff has holes to iron out, that 'second gen' software can fix.
I have seen a few art packages refine their pencil support to allow the user to change the threshold for 100% pencil input. Which is awesome cause there was no way I was going to ever consistantly push THAT HARD to hit 100%.
It is definately getting better and iOS 10 is adding more
Eg three column email view which makes the software as good as old Microsoft Outlook (desktop PC mail software) for email viewing and managing. (And given the present state of Windows Mail, and M$ nasty forcing of people to outlook (online) mail.. I would avoid it like the plague)(based on experience of most servicing at the moment from me is to rectify mail server details because MS, having given many telcos and corporations free email server access have revoked it in an effort to get users to jump ship to MS product- it is a horrendous mess, thankyou Microsoft; you've done it again!!)
Jokes aside... iOS10 is looking sweet, 12.9" Pro screen 5.6million pixels is looking sweet.
It is a good time to buy apple shares. ;-)
whitedragon, 06 Aug 2016It would be a 'slate',.. and it would be much higher than 4k (if by Apple) iOS users!!- ... moreHey whitedragon have app developers updated their apps to scale properly for the 12.9 inch ipad pro? Is it taking very long for app developers to update their apps for the larger screen? Last time I used the 12.9 inch pro for 2 weeks some apps I used like Google maps and imdb didn't scale properly for the larger screen? I'm asking cause I'm thinking of buying a 12.9 inch pro next year when the new one comes out, I'm not sure I should upgrade if a lot of apps are not optimized for the larger screen.
Leigh the transforme, 26 Jul 2016It would be cool if apple released a 20 inch ipad pro with 4k resolution It would be a 'slate',.. and it would be much higher than 4k (if by Apple)
iOS 10 public beta four has added some wikkid messaging stuff and fixed a whole slew of little idiosyncrasies
Leigh the transforme, 26 Jul 2016It would be cool if apple released a 20 inch ipad pro with 4k resolution Lol that would be insane but I'm not discounting the idea of a 20 inch ipad pro yet until I try it myself. I think 20 inches would be perfect for home use but would be too impractical for uses outside the home since finding a bag to carry a 20 inch tablet is already a challenge.
It would be cool if apple released a 20 inch ipad pro with 4k resolution
'Samsung Galaxy TabPro S 12" Tablet" is a potential alternative for this size category, that gets a few things right (over the Surface etc),from what I have read like weight balance etc.
Obvioulsy not iOS (a windows 10 tablet), advertising literature suggests 'full windows 10 performance(an oxymoron if ever one existed- should suggest full windows compatibility, but hey, nitpicks..)'.
Might be an option for some considering the 12" size/space.
Perhaps 'pick up' in shop to see... hearing good things about battery life etc.
I know which is my go to platform for loungeroom and out and about productivity-
Though if I needed windows platform, and only had space for one device....
Personally, my kit bag has two pockets, one for tablet, one for laptop... and a cheap windows (technically multiboot/multi OS) laptop is there if I need windows platform when on tech callouts.
Ham-l, 12 Jul 2016On the 128gb model, what's the usable gb size after it has the ios loaded?Using itunes? None of it is very usable.....
Jokes aside, I wish I new.
I don't recall, was it 118Gb, maybe it was 112Gb...
Just beware that default itunes settings are happy to reduce the quality of your entire exising media collection (actually destroying lossless masters etc, after reripping in shitty compressed methods- true wouldn't matter through ipad speakers, but my pc has a $500 sound card hooked into some serious kit (even 320kbps sound is very obvious difference depending on genres..)).
I did find, upon installing VLC and some other software.. I could copy flac files direct to the VLC app without having to rerip or include them into itunes library.
Using dropbox / other cloud methods, and using the 'filesystem' of some of the iOS apps mitigates most of the issues I found VERY FRUSTRATING as a 20+ years tech veteran.
In fact, I loaded my 128Gb Pro with sooooooo much software and lossless music and media that I did feel that it was enough storage space.
And anytime it ran low I could just delete 'an album' and be fine and dandy again....
On the 128gb model, what's the usable gb size after it has the ios loaded?
whitedragon, 16 Jun 2016I am unsure and unread on this topic. Consensus a week or so ago was that the develops buil... moreYa I use my ipad pro 9.7 so much that I rarely use my desktop pc anymore. I tried the pro 12.9 for 2 weeks and the size was fine for me, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get used to it. I still find reading magazines on the pro 9.7 a little bit too small sometimes, that's why I'm thinking of upgrading to the pro 12.9 next year when the new one comes out. The only problem I had with the pro 12.9 is that not all apps are optimized for the 12.9 inch screen. I'm waiting for more apps to be optimized for the larger screen then I'm upgrading.
HumongousPhoneLover , 15 Jun 2016When does the official IOS 10 come out? September when the iPhone 7 comes out?I am unsure and unread on this topic.
Consensus a week or so ago was that the develops build would hit with WWDC (it did), public beta would hit a month from then, and official release likely with new iphone release later in the year...
Regarding your 9.7"Pro, it really is the right size..
I have the 12.9" and it is a use around the house tool.
Finding IT bags to move it isn't so easy... and it is heavy (by comparison to the smaller units).
Admittedly I do like it so much it has retired my using of three other PCs.
Pencil is cool, and really helps navigating the large screen space given the OS has been designed from the ground up for smaller devices.
King Heaven, 09 Jun 2016I like this one because its much bigger than the latest (Pro 9.7) I agree with you lol, i have the pro 9.7 but even though I love it I almost regret getting it since I tried the pro 12.9 shortly afterwards for 2 weeks and I absolutely loved it even more so then my pro 9.7 simply because of the bigger screen. I plan to buy the pro 12.9 next year when the new one comes out.
whitedragon, 14 Jun 2016iOS 10 out now for devs! (Beta 1) Install a developer profile, then can 'check for updates'... moreWhen does the official IOS 10 come out? September when the iPhone 7 comes out?
iOS 10 out now for devs! (Beta 1)
Install a developer profile, then can 'check for updates', download (1.9Gb) and install..
I hope you ate undated
Actually and simply if I tell you all. your people old enough
For the Technology bat. In my country Srilanka most of people opinion is.
The Apple is great bat very sensitive. As a member of Apple I will tell you honestly just make it Heavy Your product because it's quickly damageable thank you
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I like this one because its much bigger than the latest (Pro 9.7)
Jimbob, 12 Apr 2016No, it sucks and in my opinion, get the other oneHow about telling us here why you think it sucks then? Surely, you have enough intelligence to do that instead of spitting out a few words?
whitedragon, 16 May 2016This statement that you are generalising means different things to different people. Presen... morewow you should write an article yourself, honestly ... you answer that comment with such an answer. what determination.
ASIM, 16 May 2016Apple is claiming that this the replacement of the laptop. But ipad pro lags in software depar... moreThis statement that you are generalising means different things to different people.
Presently, artists use the 12.9 for portfolio showing. Many creative types use the tablet for a very versatile range of uses. For many uses there is no clear equal, and in the areas where there are equivalents (wacoms proffesional tablet) they are not anywhere near equivalent at a whole range of other things.
Sure.. If you want to play a 'by the numbers game' and quote specs sheets; there are other pieces of Technology that sound more impressive, and certainly, not comparing apples to apples, a 'surface pro' can be argued as a competitor (I wouldn't use it as an example because they are vastly different bits of technology, maybe not at a hardware level, but certainly with regards to usability and function)
I have worked in IT nearly all of my life, and after hours I am a techno enthusist. I certainly am very well researched, and unfortunately, I will not take the proper time to preempt an argument with people who don't understand this industry.
Spec sheet numbers are so easy to manipulate to look good, or can often have little actual 'real world' relevance.
The surface pro is an excellent piece of technology. For many many people it will do wonders and be the best thing they have ever owned with regards to computing.
Personally I have no use for one.
In fact the reason I have an Apple tablet (Pro 12.9"), is due to windows 10.
And I wouldn't enjoy using legacy apps and apps not designed for a 12" surface/touch screen interface on its small form factor. Nor would I appreciate the battery life (or lack thereof compared to the alternative I chose).
Sure we can all list a whole slew of software that is considered the best of the best and 'industry standard', and state how it isn't available for iOS.
Therein is the rub-
A lot of that super awesome software is best used on multimonitor setups with a range of input and output options (wacoms, scanners, high speed docks /card readers for cameras, large storage areas for backsups etc)
So a lot of professionals already have that setup.
For them, a reliable tablet with functions that aid and support their design process or something that doesn't 'get in the way' of workflow that makes long hours researching easy, might be what they are after.
And to these people, they would agree the 'Pro" that Apple labelled their new hardware lineup, is apt.
I know that this tablet having stupid amounts of memory (by iOS requirements) is 'future proof' for iOS updates.
I can wifi a sony rxr's 43mp output direct to ipad and edit the file (up to 50mb) in Enlight(software).
The canvas size for some of the art programs, on the pro, is ridiculous for me, but extremely useful for other artists. And playing around on 5.6million pixels of screen (in less than 13" of diagonal) is very nice.
I have many professional grade monitors and display units at my disposal, and love that the iPad is the one on my leg whilst I sit next to my daughter on the couch whilst she watches a movie. (The exception not the rule, but subtitute in; whilst she runs around at the park with other children, my 'go to' screen is a very nice one.
I come from a photography background.
For many things I do, even with desktop wacom multimonitor setups; the apple pencil and the Pro are a very productive and 'killer' combo.
Vs win 10? iOS, (ever growing in capacity and function) is a beautifully stable, non interuptive OS. It aids the creative process by being predictable and 'not getting in the way'.
Win10 has caused me much downtime, and it is embarrasing being 'infield', needing another windows pc to quickly troubleshoot if a clients hardware is functioning (or is in fact just a windows/software issue), pulling out my top tier Vaio laptop, and it has to reboot. Apparently an update needs it to. (This has happened more than once)
Whilst it is easily argued iOS doesn't give full access to the hardware, Microsoft don't give a user much control of their software. I know which I would rather be at the mercy of.
Truth is modern iOS multitasks like a champion.
Software to do just about anything is available. If not, its likely on its way.
Metal (the graphics api) is ahead of direct x 12 for granting efficient access to the hardware, and battery life and speed /heat is the winner.
A surface pro, with a confused interface, never sure if touch or mouse, never sure if for large or small screen interface (windows being very versatile), and having the constant issues that plague a microsoft software product, is, I would argue, not for professionals.
A professionals time is important and valuable,.. More than the one off cost of a piece of hardware (and yes, they no doubt consider all purchasing options).
What the Apple Pro does, it does very well.
My jaw dropped the first time I fired up some CAD software and the realtime render,with textures, at the resolution I was seeing was just insane (smoother than it had any right to be)
*(Flashbacks to coreldraw running on a 33mhz 486 made me laugh; I can barely make my tablet pause for a second no matter what I make it do).
Now, given professionals usually own more than one piece of technology, and this is likely to be supplemental, they can remote access their desktops, or turn the apple tablet into an extended screen, and run ANY SOFTWARE THEY WANT.
So, I won't argue with people who believe that their chosen way (either based on saving money or on having the 'fastest' parts), who visualise all they can do (but not actually very well in a lot of instances), and voice so loudly, calling Apple (as a company) out for any mistep, and want to take task with the 'Pro' tablets.
I am, and I concur, "they are". (Pro)
When people want to be dismissive of iOS and/or Apple... Look for the reasons or the basis of their claims.
Many independant studies have shown time and time again that ACTUAL PRODUCTIVITY goes way up in an Apple ecosystem (cost of deployment is paid for), and troubleshooting and tech support required also goes way down (cost of deployment is paid for again).
This tablet may not be a jack of all trades, but if not, I would argue it is, in fact, a 'master of some"
What it does do, it does very, very well.
(I am happy using it for >90% of all workflow and productivity, meaning it has retired/replaced my need to sit in front of my i7 triple monitor w/ wacom setup. I still fire up my watercooled i7 with gtx780 for games and the odd movie rip)
I use the Apple Pencil and a logitech k480 bluetooth keyboard. Also a rubber case that has a pencil 'slot' for storage. These sit in a small pocket of my IT bag, with another pocket containing a 13" vaio.
THere is also a tonne of occasions where I rest the tablet on a small stand at the dinner table and watch Presto or any other given streaming service instead of firing up the loungeroom plasma and surround sound system.
Maybe because I like the sound of the speakers so much, but likely more the intimate mood that is 'huddled around the table' together watching tv.
Hope i haven't given the illusion of watching lots of tv/downtime.
We don't have an aerial plugged in, mostly just watch blurays (once or twice a week).
I DO admit to spending many hours a day on my tablet.
My body likes the resting on the sundeck or lounging on the couch modes it allows whilst I do heavy reasearch. (Professionals might do this as well, and lightweight, long battery life is an important metric, not given fair weighting, until you've tried it!)
Context is very important