Anonymous, 19 Feb 2009I find the iPhone camera very useful at least it takes clear and decent photo's, the 5800 is w... morethose are reviews only. i have also read that the photos for the the 5800 touchcreen from nokia 5800 users are good. those people that are saying that 5800 takes bad picture dont know how to use the camera settings. nokia is well known for led flashes on camera smartphones to be powerful enough in dark places with low light conditions. my n95 can take pictures in the dark. as far as the iphone's camera, without any light its useless. i am sure you know that.
BARCELONA, Feb 18 (Reuters) - Copying a few pages from the playbook of Apple Inc's (AAPL.O) iPhone strategy, which brings many of the powers of the Internet to mobile phones, is no way to beat the computer interloper at its game.
But that's exactly what many of the world's biggest handsets makers are trying to do with new copycat phones and services that ape key features of the iPhone.
At Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, the world's biggest annual trade show for the wireless industry, Apple is everywhere and nowhere. The company avoids such events, preferring to unveil products at its own venues.
The handset business will produce more than a billion phones this year, but is suffering a crisis of confidence brought on by sharply changing business models that has only been exaggerated by the global economic slump.
"Imagination is expensive in a year such as this," said Richard Windsor, a technology analyst at the conference who is with Nomura Securities in London.
The giants of the phone industry -- Nokia (NOK1V.HE), Samsung Electronics Co Ltd (005930.KS), LG Electronics Inc (066570.KS), Sony Ericsson (6758.T)(ERICb.ST) and HTC Corp (2498.TW) -- are humbling themselves to copy a company whose phones account for only 1 percent of handsets.
A year ago, phone makers with quick-acting design teams came out with the first touchscreen iPhone look-alikes. This year, they are going further by seeking to duplicate the iPhone's user interface software.
Privately, an executive with a major European telecommunications operator complains: "Everybody is trying to catch the iPhone. They are pushing things out to market that just aren't ready for prime-time."
Analysts say the clones often perform slowly and are less intuitive for users than the iPhone.
Case in point: South Korean phone maker LG Electronics introduced an entry-level smartphone using Microsoft Corp's (MSFT.O) Windows Mobile operating system and a new iPhone-like look called "3D S-Class User Interface."
The most obvious difference with the iPhone is that LG's GM730 gives users three-dimensional views of its features and applications, which appear like cubes rather than pages, as they do on the iPhone.
But a demonstration of the iPhone wannabe reveals a characteristic flaw familiar to personal computer users. LG's logo and then the Windows brand hang on the screen as 5, 10, 15, eventually 30 seconds pass. The phone is booting up, just like a computer, but unlike many of the faster phones.
Apple has sought to scare away competitors by threatening legal action to defend the hundreds of patented ideas it has rolled into the iPhone. How rivals can work around such patents remains a big question.
The proliferation of "me-too" products is a trap because products must take shortcuts or sacrifice profit margins to undercut Apple on price. That digs equipment makers into a deeper hole because smartphones have been faster growing and more profitable than other handsets.
And Apple isn't sitting still. Some Wall Street analysts say the Silicon Valley-based company is gearing up to offer a slimmed down $99 iPhone for consumers -- or $299 without carrier subsidies -- by June.
A lower-price iPhone would likely run on slower networks, contain less memory and have lower touchscreen and camera resolution, one RBC Capital analyst predicts.
Apple, which enjoys estimated margins of 55 percent that are nearly twice the industry average on their current line-up of phones, will need to accept margins around 40 percent if it markets a $99 phone. But that's still well above the 30 percent industry average.
The phone industry is envious of Apple's AppStore, which lets iPhone users download thousands of small software programs to personalize the way they play games, listen to music or find directions.
Letting users decide what software they add to phones marks an upending of long-standing industry practices of tightly controlling device features, based on what handset makers and their key customers, the operators, thought best.
The roll-call of companies announcing their own software stores this week include Nokia, Microsoft, LG and France Telecom SA's (FTE.PA) Orange mobile network. Samsung and BlackBerry maker Research in Motion Ltd (RIM.TO) had previously announced stores of their own.
Orange said its own store will feature only Orange-approved products when it opens in May. Selected outside software developers will be invited "in the future," it promised.
Comfortable old habits of control die hard.
i ahve had this fone for around 4 months and i personally think it is the most confusing and stupid because when yhuu fone call someone it heats up and goeas straight to the internet.
i have been the iphone user for 6 month.. i m totally new to apple! and i prefer window more than apple.. but.. iphone is the best! so far never hang.. stable.. its depends of wat u need.. i just need 3G not video call, and the best thing i like its only with my finger i can write n draw, no need stylus. Try use ur finger to write chinese in other Fon.. u know wat i mean.
guys can u help me which is which 5800 or iphone 3g? help me distinguish which is appropriate to me as a college student??? i think 5800 have more specs than i phone but on the other hand iphone have so many application that can be used it can up to 144 apps....again which is which and in our country iphone (30,+++) is more expensive than 5800 (18,+++) so please help me thanks
iPhone is great, it just need a better camera. If I wanted a good camera phone I will go to samsung or LG 8 mp instead of nokia 5800 crap tube
therock, 19 Feb 2009i agree with u kate. n95 still rocks!!The N95 did rock, which is why Nokia has been making them with minor variations for the last 3 years.
Samsung rock Nokia's boat!
I do not think IPHONE is overrated.
It is the first PHONE of APPLE and it is
beautifull like all APPLEs products.
It is diffucult to say it is the best PHONE
but it works great for me making me extremely happy.
I had nokias before and I am not looking for getting
nokia again epecialy N95 was a pain in the a*s
therock., 19 Feb 2009weak facts you say?..hahaha you can't handle the truth!!! the 5800 express music has more feat... moreI find the iPhone camera very useful at least it takes clear and decent photo's, the 5800 is widely acknowledged to have very poor camera quality in almost evey review published about it, despite the Carl Zeiss lens and pitiful LED flash which is useless less than a metre away.
The LED flash on these toys is useful only for childish shots for Bebo.
Sir Josiah, 18 Feb 2009Erm, no. The 5800 XpressMusic, XpressMusic being the operative word there, isn't an all round ... morethe 5800 touchscreen has a dual led flash, unlike the highly acclaimed iphone. the 5800 touchscreen isnt a failure, it is the beginning of the nokia touchscreens. next will be the n97. even the n96 cripples the iphones. you can even watch tv on it.
Sir Josiah, 18 Feb 2009Erm, no. The 5800 XpressMusic, XpressMusic being the operative word there, isn't an all round ... moreweak facts you say?..hahaha you can't handle the truth!!! the 5800 express music has more features than the iphone. Also the 5800 touchscreen bundle package is worth it. my friends' still have to carry a separate camera when out in public during the night. I, on the other hand, don't need to because my n95 does the photos for me. apple should have left out the camera part on the iphone. it is useless.
Mrigank Pawar, 19 Feb 2009The most overrated thing in da world! Get a life! 2mp, no flash, no vdo recording, no FM? Damn... moreIt's underrated if anything, by those who use kid's toy's for sharing ringtones by Bluetooth or dinky little MMS messages because they are too young to afford adult plans with real email.
The most overrated thing in da world! Get a life! 2mp, no flash, no vdo recording, no FM? Damn, buy a SE k810i instead on n73 instead.
u guys soooo totes need to get a life
THE IPHONE ROX MY JOX LOL
ITS SOOOO COOL/AWESOME
sooo get over urself
that would be great
ill give it a 5.5 out of 10. the good thing about it,is that you can store lots of pictures and songs.and the screen is big..but quality wise,it sucks. n95 is better..
Anonymous, 18 Feb 2009can someone tell me how to turn off the 3G data on the iphone, thx, oh and i got mine through ... moreTouch SETTINGS, then touch GENERAL, and then touch NETWORK. You will see enable 3G, then slide to off.