I looked at the iphone 3GS and had a demo of it, the only real nutter I have is its quite sensitive to touches and finger positions, but overall its quite good since I had the same problem with phones anyway so its not a new thing to me.
It was quite fast too didnt take long to load apps and the use of it is reasonably straight forward obviously a learning curve is there but most phones have that with how to use and navigation.
i dont want to keep the argument going but how can you honestly compare the 5800 an iphone!! It just doesnt make sense.
Again without trying to wind you up I would buy a 5800 for my daughter thats the type of market they were made for.
If you really did have an iphone why would you trade it for a 5800.
But if you like it fine but you dont really need to keep posting here do you.
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2009What vague specifications are you talking about? What's vague is your mentality. Before the ... moreI didn't mean the n900, but the n920 wich does not have a kb...
As for having/not having I had the 3g and compared to 5800 it was lamentable, as proven with serious points, the device is unfinished.
I didn't bash anything by discussing specs didn't I?
Why discuss specs and compare to 5800?
Easy, stop coming at the n900 section and lieing!
I just presented bare facts, if you come to visit (why come when you're so happy with the iphone?), post facts aswell.
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2009You do realize people were waiting in front of apple stores for a product that had vague speci... moreWhat vague specifications are you talking about? What's vague is your mentality. Before the 1st iphone was released, Apple stores already had iphones displayed for demos for the public. So yes, those who lined up have more than likely already tried it out and that's why they were excited. I couldn't relate to those people at that time because I was not interested on the iphone, and I have not tried it out, and I had the n95 at that time.
The first iphone already had safari silly. It was already a multimedia device.
Huh? The n900 does have a slide out keyboard, lol, and it is a maemo device, lol. You seem confused, lol.
So what is the point of this section!! People with iphones love them which is great but it seems their are more people posting here who dont have an iphone and are only really here to be childish and try and pick faults with the iphone.
Why they do this well I dont know we would have to get some of them to be honest for a change and tell us why they feel the need to post here. If you have Nokia etc go and post in the Nokia section etc.
The iphone is not perfect but neither is any other phone out their. Is it more expensive well compared to most smart phones no its not. Yes maybe its more expensive than your average Nokia or whatever make but then again thats what you get an average phone.
How many group test do you get comapring an iphone to an nokia etc!! No its always high end similarly priced phones. And whats is the problem if people want to go out a buy an expensive phone. Do you stop and tell how wrong they are for spending a lot of money on a particular car. clothes etc as long as its not your money who cares.
Maybe people should use the internet and have a good read of the reviews on gsmarena etc and actually read some reviews of the iphone and the other fantastic phones that are out their and are not as good as people would like to think they are.
your Omnia and HTC's etc all have problems and drawbacks which stop them getting 10/10 ratings etc.
its all down to personal choice so grow up and deal with it if you dont want an iphone well thats great buy something else im sure you will love it.
BTW can I just point out a few of the posting rules which need to be upheld more.
# No bashing - deliberately and repeatedly bashing the same brand will get you banned
# No trolling - deliberately antagonizing other brand/model users will get you banned.
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2009I know. It's really laughable when users get overly excited. Especially on phones that are n... moreYou do realize people were waiting in front of apple stores for a product that had vague speciffications released and couldn't do almost anything.
The first iphone was an iPod with a phone...
As for n900 i don't really like it, i'm going to wait for the keyboard to slide out, and maybe then get a maemo.
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2009It's only laughable when some users get over excited. It's a nice phone, ok, but there's no re... moreI know. It's really laughable when users get overly excited. Especially on phones that are not even released yet, like the n900, lol. I'm glad you're against bashing, but I wonder why you seem to tolerate that user "pspr" bashing the iphone :) Hypocrite.
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2009The iphone is a huge success, so why would we admit that it failed when it didn't? A smart us... moreIt's only laughable when some users get over excited. It's a nice phone, ok, but there's no reason to bash other brands especially when, let's face it there are quite a few features still missing.
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2009those iphone user will never admit its failure bcos those user is covering their own faces.the... moreThe iphone is a huge success, so why would we admit that it failed when it didn't? A smart user would buy a product to serve his or her needs, and not just because it has this or that feature. Features are subjective. A particular feature might be important to you but useless to others. Some people could care less about smartphones and would buy basic phones. There's nothing laughable about that. You're weird.
soulchild_71, 14 Oct 2009Has anyone noticed just how many basic features are missing from the iphone? Steve Job's reaso... moreWe just didn't notice about the iphone's missing features. We knew about it. And we agree with Steve Jobs for not including those features for power practicality reasons. Other phones also have missing features, and I'm sure they have their reasons as well. You are exaggerating on the battery life. Anyone who heavily uses their device would always run low fast on their batteries. There are millions of iphone users, and we seem to be doing fine not being able to change batteries. I am a heavy user myself. So I take my charger with me all the time, like you would carry spare batteries with you all the time. And what is your basis in saying that the iphone is below standard? It performs much faster and smoother than most phones out there. It has access to more 3rd party apps than any smartphone. Sorry, but bt file transfer feature is not our basis of a high standard phone because the iphone does more useful stuff than transferring songs for those who refuse to buy their own songs :) Amoled is nice, but do I really need that on my phone? It's not like the iphone's resolution can't produce good images. 8mp is also good, but between that or a great music reproducing music player, I'd rather have the better music player because I listen more to music than take pictures. And if taking pictures is my passion, I'd be using a standalone camera, not a phone. With the thousands of apps from the app store, I would have other better uses for my iphone than take pictures. You make it seem like iphone 3gs is the last iphone, lol. Yes, there's your omnia hd, tg01, n900, etc. But soon there will be iphone 4g as well :)
Has anyone noticed just how many basic features are missing from the iphone? Steve Job's reason for alot of these missing features was to save battery life. Because of the way the OS works it drains the battery fast. So now basic features has to be excluded in order to save battery life. If the iphone's screen res, and camera along with some call features and bluetooth comes up to todays industry standards the iphone would almost be unuseable. The battery would drain so fast you not be able to do much before the battery goes dead. And the sad part is you cant even carry a spear one because you cant change the battery. But they have done a good job in promoting the iphone ever tho its below standard. Now with that said, the Omnia hd is what I call advance with all the industry standards and more. Amoled screen with a higher res and still consumes less battery. A 8mp camera which is above todays industry of 5mp, bluetooth and every call feature you can think of and still uses less power than the iphone. Oh and you can change the battery. Iphone users would fight you with their very last breath defending the iphone's lack of standard features. The iphone came and it did good but the world has already moved on, the iphone is below standard its a fact check the specs. The new generation of phones are here and we all should be happy. The Omnia hd, Toshiba TG01, LG BL40, Nokia N900 and Omnia 2 just to name a few and wait till we see whats on the table for next year. Trust me we should be happy.
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2009How can you tell people who won't listen about the high tech things it IS capable of, things w... moreIs capable with ridiculous ammounts of battery power compared to symbian wich is simply "capable".
But the "things" iPhone firmware is capable of are never mentioned...
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2009The same Mac OS X which was certified as UNIX by the standards body which certifies UNIX, that... moreSo yes, my bad I was indeed living under the stupid impression that UNIX is open source (since a long long time ago it also had linux code)... so basicly unix is an old piece of code that's not quite well mantained and whoever wants can take it and go play with it without giving anything back... that's an old silly way of developing an OS.
So you basicly say windows 3.1 = windows vista = windows 95 = windows mobile?
So here's the fault in your logic... If you think by windows 3.1 symbian 6 etc standards ofcourse you live under the impression the basic functions of iphone are advanced.
But leaving that aside, symbian is a really mature and developed OS and there's no need to futher compare it to the iphone firmware that's 3 years old or to s40 wich hasn't been worked on for years (although it does VGA rec. since wayyy back)
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2009those iphone user will never admit its failure bcos those user is covering their own faces.the... moreHow can you tell people who won't listen about the high tech things it IS capable of, things which obviously go way over your head.
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2009UNIX is open source, no apple OS is open source.
It's like saying plasma tv's are based on ... moreThe same Mac OS X which was certified as UNIX by the standards body which certifies UNIX, that Mac OSX?
The one that is in the iPhone?
Are you really that incapable of understanding the meaning of the site I linked to?
UNIX is NOT open source.
Symbian is Symbian whether it is version 6, 7 or whatever just like Windows is Windows whether it's 3.1, 95, 98, 98SE, ME, 2K, XP, Vista or 7 (Vista attempt 2).
You can't change history no matter how much you and the other Nokia sheep would like to.
those iphone user will never admit its failure bcos those user is covering their own faces.they just bought an expensive low end phone n how can they telling people it is low tech? their friend will surely laugh at him. so from the time they purchase iphone, they will say iphone is good just 2 cover their own faces
And calling iPhone firmware - UNIX is like calling
Psion - symbian or symbian - UIQ.
All of theese are totally different OSes.
How much psion do you think there is in symbian?
Just as much unix there is in iPhone firmware.
You answer your own questions but without noticing.
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2009I don't understand how people can be so ignorant, in their haste to jump on the "I hate iPhone... moreUNIX is open source, no apple OS is open source.
It's like saying plasma tv's are based on CRT tv's because they're both tv's, that's ignorance.
As for P800 both nokia and sony owned most of symbian but both went they're separate ways.
"June 1998 - Symbian is established as a private independent company and is owned by Ericsson, Nokia, Motorola and Psion"
Sony went for touch right form the start and hence resulted UIQ that started as an UI customisation.
Sony and Motorola have failed...
As for "that" symbian, it's really like comparing windows 3.1 with windows 7.
How could anyone use windows 7 when we're to think at 3.1?
In one thing you are right, I should stop comparing an advanced OS like psion/symbian wich has almost 30 years of evolution and has touched the most advanced mobile devices in history to the silly iPhone OS that was made by taking MACos and stuffing it into a phone.
Now all the great minds wonder why the battery doesn't last...
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2009I don't need aircon, it uses more gas. And if I want fresh air I can either start the vent or ... moreDont do it not today? Am sure that 9 out of 10 drivers would rather have air con, should you not put air con in a car cause one person might not use it? I think not, the fact is everyone is using it so you try to please the majority. Bluetooth is simple and convenient to use and MMS maybe more advance and very welcome but everyone is using bluetooth. I will never understand why the iphone cant bluetooth. It is a standard on almost every phone now a days. This phone is not as good as the phones coming out now a days. But what makes this phone look so good is the apps store and Apple's marketing team.
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2009P800 is not symbian, it's UIQ wich is a heavy modification made by motorolla and sony wich btw... moreP800 not Symbian?
Maybe you'd better bone up on the real history of Symbian before Nokia sanitises it:-
2000 November - The world's first Symbian OS phone, the Ericsson R380 Smartphone, ships.
2002 March - Symbian OS powered Sony Ericsson P800 Smartphone announced.
I hadn't realized just how effective Nokia's brainwashing was.