Peter, 02 Aug 2010QUOTE: "Let me give you a simple example to make it clear to understand.
It is like pa... moreHaving iphone4 is like having a model as a girlfriend. Pretty, beautiful, and make the one who have it proud when everyone turn they head to see it.... BUT... iphone4 is also expensive, and unreliable... just like a model.
I don't think anyone that want/expect a good live shouldn't try to play with fire... i mean iphone4.
iphone4 is a FLING... an expensive FLING... it's a lust that must be avoided...
This is very important guys -- if you are in an area of low coverage, the call will NOT get dropped if you grip the bottom left side of the phone. However, the bars may decrease. If the call does drop, it would have dropped anyway even if you had held the phone in the right hand! It's just that the bars would not have decreased. I know this is confusing, but this is the software problem Apple was talking about. It may be a stupid problem, but it does not affect the experience of using the phone. I first thought the explanation given by Apple was bullshit, (like most people) but now that I have the phone, I realize that it makes perfect sense.
If you grip the phone in the left hand, you will see the actual network coverage (that is, the correct number of bars). This difference in the number of bars is only there if you are in an area of weak coverage. And Apple will soon fix this problem with the new firmware (maybe it already has been fixed) so that you will see the true reception no matter how you hold the phone. If you guys are still confused about this, please reply to this post and I will explain it again.
And please note that it's mostly just AT&T customers in the US who complained about the problem (and that to, very few people). In the UK, there were hardly any complaints. I use it on O2 problem free and I have used the phone in some of the most rural areas you can imagine, not just downtown London or Liverpool. Iphone 4 was just launched in Canada, Australia and Singapore...no problems. Doesn't that tell you something?
And yes, Bad Apple, I agree, the Samsung Galaxy S is a superb phone. If the battery life, camera and build quality were better, I would certainly consider it equal to the iPhone 4, if not better. But if you like the iPhone 3GS, I would certainly say to go for the iPhone 4 because the reception is a definite improvement. And the noise cancelling feature really works..people can hear you much better.
In reply to Bad Apple - my friend, have you used an iPhone 4? Or are you just going by what the media tells you? If you hold the iPhone 4 in that now-famous "death grip", it will cause some bars to go down... this does NOT reduce the reception of the phone! It means that the correct number of bars is shown when you hold the phone in that way...and the difference is only there in areas of low network coverage!
[deleted post]He speak english well, but apparently, he (and also me) can't understand how apple user think.
I'm very speechless seeing how iphone user try to manipulate everything. Saying apple is the best. For example, apple denied the use of MMS, saying e-mail is better. But then, put MMS on the phone. At the time iphone doesn't have MMS, iphone user try to defend by saying who use MMS anyway. Another thing is multitask. the lack of multitask to partial multitask in iphone4. This always got defended by iphone user. let see in 3-4 years... iphone 7 or iphone8... when they have the real multitask....
Bluetooth.... a poor bluetooth support by iphone, and iphone user try to play trick to my mind....
USB.... it's a real shame that iphone use a proprietary standard, and even playing cat and mouse with other company on the itunes standard... Nokia rule for using the world standard.
and much much more...
for those of you who might ask what phone would I buy, I go for 3GS (to show I am not a apple hater), samsung Wave, samsung 3GS, the last two are simply piece of engineering at the highest level and I still will buy 3GS,
all of the above you can make a good phone calls with outstanding reception, therefore they can be call a mobile phone, but sadly iphone 4 doesn't not fall in that catogory,
Bad Apple, 02 Aug 2010Dear Peter, iphone 4 does not catogorizes as a phone, it should be called itune, till they sor... moreIn reply to Bad Apple - have you used an iPhone 4? Or are you just going by what the media tells you? If you hold the iPhone 4 in that now-famous "death grip", it will cause some bars to go down...this does not reduce the reception of the phone! It means that the correct number of bars is shown when you hold the phone in that way...and the difference is only there in areas of low network coverage!
This is very important guys -- if you are in an area of low coverage, the call will NOT get dropped just by gripping the bottom left side of the phone. However, the bars may decrease. If the call does drop, it would have dropped anyway even if you had held the phone in the right hand! It's just that the bars would not have decreased. I know this is confusing, but this is the software problem Apple was talking about. I also thought this explanation was bullshit, but now that I have the phone, I realize that it makes perfect sense.
If you grip the phone in the left hand, you may see the true network coverage, but this is not less than other phones! And Apple will soon fix this problem with the new firmware (maybe it already has been fixed) so that you will see the true reception no matter how you hold the phone. If you guys are still confused about this, please reply to this post and I will explain it again.
Peter, 02 Aug 2010QUOTE: "we want the real smartphone..wondering iphone is not smartphone why apple called ... moreDear Peter, iphone 4 does not catogorizes as a phone, it should be called itune, till they sort out the serious reception issue,
Phone is a device which you could make and receive calls without interruptions, and iphone 4 drops calls, and have a very bad reception. This is not my opinion here , its tested by experts world wide and its now been proven. why should I put a piece of plastic round my phone (sorry itune) to make it work?!
May be its time for you guys to get in touch with reality and come down from iclould!
Anonymous, 02 Aug 2010
O.k, I take a pic with my new iphone(if I get one). My wife likes it and asks me to send i... moreQUOTE: "O.k, I take a pic with my new iphone(if I get one). My wife likes it and asks me to send it to her. Can I do this via bluetooth? I have heard that you can't, I don't know much about these phones. And this would be a MAJOR drawback if this is the case, in fact I would not buy one.
So can you send picks and data to other devices/phones, whatever using bluetooth from the iphone?"
Now, in my opinion, THIS is the only major disadvantage of the iPhone (non jailbroken) at the moment. No widgets...not a big deal. Limited number of home screens...who cares? No flash support for the web browser... if you use the iPhone you will hardly notice that, it still hast the best Internet experience when compared to other phones.
But the bluetooth thing, I agree, is a major feature which is lacking. Again, note that the iPhone has bluetooth, but Apple chose to block that feature. We all know why Apple doesnt allow bluetooth for transfering media like songs and videos... because they have the iTunes store. Fine, but they should allow the transfer of photos and other files! Again, jailbreaking solves this problem but it would have been nice to have this feature without jailbreaking.
By the way, why am I the only guy posting here at the moment? LOL! I need to get back to work!
QUOTE: "Let me give you a simple example to make it clear to understand.
It is like paying over 100k buying top of the range Porsche car, which has all the gimmics inside and out, like sat nave, high tech engine, performance like no others (lets just for a second dream this is the case for iphone4), then they tell you have all of these but the engine keeps breaking down every time you go round the corner, you just need to drive it in stright line!! would you buy this car to just play with the Sat nave or just enjoy the beauty of look of it and play games/music? what is the point if this car doesn't run proper! it wouldn't be a car , would it?
If you have a brian and little bit of sense of common , the answer is NO, I NEVER buy this !"
Yeah nice try but that analogy really doesnt make sense. First of all, the iPhone 4 is not that much more expensive than other similar touchscreen smartphones. (And you're comparing it to a $100,000 Porsche?!)
And for the zillionth time, the iPhone does not have reception problems! Geez! Of course it's not your fault, it's the fault of the media. Have you EVER experienced a dropped call on the iPhone 4? Have you even used one? The iPhone 4 will lose signal ONLY when it is gripped in that unnatural way and ONLY when you are in an area of weak network coverage! And even then, chances are your call won't get dropped, just the reception bars will go down. And if (by chance) your call does drop, the same thing would have happened on most other phones!
Please put this argument to rest. (As well as the no real multitasking argument.) It's getting old now guys.
And let me again reply to my friend below who must have spent half his weekend writing his post on "iPhone 4 flaws" -- almost all the disadvantages you mentioned are nothing compared to the advantages of the iPhone. Mention the phone that you have and I could easily just as well make a similar list of flaws. Only difference is I don't come to this website to bash other phones.
And I hope you are aware that jailbreaking the iPhone makes many if not most of those "flaws" disappear right? Are people on this site even aware of how wonderful and easy (not to mention absolutely legal) jailbreaking is? It solves many of the limitations of the iPhone, while at the same time, keeping all the unique advantages of the iPhone.
Engineer Man, 02 Aug 2010Hey. Can you atach mp3 ringtones to any of the Iphone 4 OS.?QUOTE: "Hey. Can you atach mp3 ringtones to any of the Iphone 4 OS.?"
Good question. On a regular iPhone 4, no you cannot. That is a disadvantage I guess. There are plenty of ringtones to choose from, but you cannot add your own file (a recording or an mp3) as a ringtone. That's never been a problem for me, but yeah, I would have liked that option. Of course, you can always jailbreak your iPhone (a very simple procedure) and it opens all the doors...!
Anonymous, 02 Aug 2010we want the real smartphone..
wondering iphone is not smartphone why apple called it by sma... moreQUOTE: "we want the real smartphone..wondering iphone is not smartphone why apple called it by smartphone...honestly..iphone for me is basic... i think everyone now was knew what badly on the iphone 4.."
Um...ok. (trying not to laugh here.) First of all, that last sentence isn't even English, but I'll let that go.
How on earth is the iPhone 4 BASIC??! You people really make me laugh sometimess. Please don't mention the old "no real multitasking" argument because I've already explained that several times. Please reply to this with something useful because I'm really interested to know why you think it's a basic phone. And by the way, if you don't have an advanced smartphone yourself, your post is automatically IRRELEVANT. I'm not trying to start a war here, I just want a mature argument as to why you think the iPhone 4 is not a smartphone. (And please don't mention "no FM radio" or "no stereo speakers".
To the guy below who pointed out all the "flaws" of the iPhone 4 - damn you spent quite a lot of time on your post. You must be pretty interested in the iPhone considering you did so much research on it! Which phone do you have? If your phone is so great, why do you feel the need to spend 10-15 mins of your day on some random messageboard talking about some other phone? Haha...I seriously don't mean to be rude buddy but I kind of feel sorry for you! It's just a phone my friend. Here's an idea - why don't you go to appropriate forum your own phone (whether it's Nokia or whatever) and make some useful posts there! Or do you not have anything useful to say about your own phone?
Also support for any other browser or search other than BING search, third party that is. Third party! Oooh Apple have never heard of Third Party, sorry! I realize my ...mistake!
Mp3 ringtones to contact groups, or is this function for some reason ommitted?
Iphone whyphone. grrr
Iphone is something you stare at in despair & think ...WHYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!
Bad Apple, 02 Aug 2010One of these iphone fans wrote on Friday that why am i giving iphone 4 hard times over the Ant... moreExcept that for a lot of people there is no issue.
That makes your analogy dumb.