RIM comments on Appl, 18 Jul 2010"Apple's attempt to draw RIM into Apple's self-made debacle is unacceptable. Apple's clai... moreWhatever, however people like iPhone 4 even with defects because it is natural to be imperfect.
RIM comments on Appl, 18 Jul 2010"Apple's attempt to draw RIM into Apple's self-made debacle is unacceptable. Apple's clai... moreSee Page 11.
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"Apple's attempt to draw RIM into Apple's self-made debacle is unacceptable. Apple's claims about RIM products appear to be deliberate attempts to distort the public's understanding of an antenna design issue and to deflect attention from Apple's difficult situation. RIM is a global leader in antenna design and has been successfully designing industry-leading wireless data products with efficient and effective radio performance for over 20 years. During that time, RIM has avoided designs like the one Apple used in the iPhone 4 and instead has used innovative designs which reduce the risk for dropped calls, especially in areas of lower coverage. One thing is for certain, RIM's customers don't need to use a case for their BlackBerry smartphone to maintain proper connectivity. Apple clearly made certain design decisions and it should take responsibility for these decisions rather than trying to draw RIM and others into a situation that relates specifically to Apple."
- Mike Lazaridis and Jim Balsillie
Troy, 17 Jul 2010Nicely said, Totally agree with you 100% Once you go iphone you will never go back.
It's a... moreI don't understand the statement "The iPhone is a Decade ahead of other phones".. in which way should i consider this to be true?
The iPhone joined the cellphone market around 2006-2007. They got their market through just hype. Nokia, HTC and Palm still dominated the smart phone category. Now slowly Samsung is joining into the smart phone race.
Anyhow iPhone since it has been released has only upgraded an inch at a time.
3G? came out on iPhone around mid 2008 while the rest of the world were all riding the 3G bus around a year or 2 ago.
5mp camera phone with flash? Samsung cleared that "hurdle" at 2004 which is 6 years ago.
720p video? Again Samsung got that a few years or a year ago
secondary video call cam? Japanese cellphones came with that in the early 2000's
The first Smart phones were introduced during 1992.
Google map has been on symbian phones LONG before apple got their hands on it.
WiFi has been available on phones LONG AGO.
If you want to bring "Oh! but Apple has so many apps on the apps store" into the arguement, there are java enabled phones out there that have more than millions of Java applications FOR FREE.
High resolution screen? Umm look at HTC, Samsung, sony, Nokia, LG phones even 2 years ago. when you were probably on the 2nd generation iPhone.
Pros of iPhone in comparision to other phones:
Chance to show off to other iFans.
Good presentations by Mr.Jobs
Cons of iPhone in comparision to otehr phones: Updated yearly with small steps.
No flash capibility
Over priced for the cheap quality material after all it IS assembled in China like the rest of the phones.
Upgrades only available through iTunes.
High costs of the Apps.
I rest my case by saying,Apple makes few Great products but iPhone is not one of them. iPhone is good but it is not the best phone or the first to do anything by any means. They take bits and pieces of ideas and try to assemble in the iPhone and still fall behind in the market.
I think and feel that Steve Jobs is the best marketing individual in this planet .... you can check his antenna press conference on 16th July 2010 in Apple site ...
1st, he asked the users not to grip the phone in such a way ....
2nd, he tried to change physics by SW update
I guess if there will be no coverage, but using updated SW -> it shows good signal coverage. I guess it would make Apples relationship worst with AT&T, as end customer will point the finger to AT&T then. And the idea was skipped.
3rd, today in the press conference he was proving that every Smartphones have weak spots, like iphone 4 ...
http://www.apple.com/antenna/ ..... comparing with Blackberry Bold 9700, HTC .. and Samsung smartphone ... anyway none of the smartphones (3 NOKIA models, 4 Blackberry models, One Samsung) in my home have got the trouble in a way what was showed in the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKIcaejkpD4 .... iphone antenna song … it’s a cool way to recall the product
4th, today he provided a solution to use a bumper (or casing) ... it makes more sense now.
That’s for sure; he will not mention that the problem is related with the aggressive industrial design for such a complicated wireless device (with 7 or 8 radio) -> using phone outer case or structure metal as antenna without any non-conductive material coating. iphone 4 antenna simply changes its physical length when gripping on the weak spot as human body is not like insulator. Therefore antenna has got different resonance frequency than what it should get. This is very simple
And for this, Apple doesn’t need 18 antenna scientists/engineers with PhD degree and 100$ million worth of antenna chambers.
The data or statistics what he provided today -> those sound nice, but not close to reality! Steve Jobs is just making us fool.
ss, 18 Jul 2010by proving a makeshift patch called bumper, apple cant ignore the real problem. there is mista... moreApple showed the others having major signal problems,
not at 1 point did they show the iphone4 and say there was an issue.
As i said hold it right and its right
by proving a makeshift patch called bumper, apple cant ignore the real problem. there is mistake and they hv to admit it. if we use bumper it'll surely make it slightly thick and d beauty of it will be gone.
instead of admitting and trying to find their own fault they started finding fault in others. it's is really disappointing step from apple.
[deleted post]@XMAN and @pride I totally agree. Android is what the world is talking about now. it is a super awesome operating system! I would get an android device anytime. Htc desire is my type. I can customize the beastly device to the max. the widgets and multitasking are impressing.
so if having a bumper on the phone would solve the reception issue, then it wouldn't be as slim as they said it would be because the bumper is a must for the phone or else u wouldn't be able to use the 'phone' (something which u use to contact and connect with people) APPLE=FAIL!
When i started holding the phone properly i get full signal now.
The whole drop in signal is just a load of lies and Apple really didn't need to say anything
defence of IPHONE4 FANS UNITED.COM FORUMS
Nokia , samsung , htc , motorola r the symbol of technology, apple is the symbol of good at brainwash n greedy but techless
Troy, 17 Jul 2010Nicely said, Totally agree with you 100% Once you go iphone you will never go back. It's a... moreRubbish. I had the previous Iphone and could not wait to get rid of it. I hate Apple and their boring Iphone its the same old rubbish every year and they introduce feature other handsets had years ago. Totally over rated give me Android anyday.
Consumer Reports Ranks iPhone 4 as Best Smartphone Available on July 13, 2010 with their highest rating (76 Points). End of story. iPhone 4 critics and morons need to be quiet now and talk about something else. Check their website: www.consumerreports.org to proof me wrong or correct.
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It appears that Consumer Reports has a case of split personality: After first claiming there’s “no reason not to buy” Apple’s new iPhone 4 and then switching gears saying they “can’t recommend” the handset based on antenna issues, the publication has now given the device its highest marks as the best smartphone currently available.
AppleInsider is reporting that Consumer Reports has now blessed the new iPhone 4 with its “highest rated” score as the best smartphone currently available in its official paid research reports. Among the “excellent” rankings for the handset are the display, navigation, web browsing, multimedia and battery life, while the phoning and messaging ranked “very good” and voice quality as “good,” according to The Wall Street Journal Digital Daily blog.
The iPhone 4 scored 76 points out of a possible 100, which equates to Consumer Reports’ “highest rated.” The next-highest phones in the ranking are actually Apple’s previous generation iPhone 3GS and HTC’s new EVO 4G, both ranked at 74 points overall.
All of this praise comes on the heels of a bit of back and forth from Consumer Reports, who first reported on their official blog that there was “no reason not to buy” the iPhone 4 when the antenna issues were first reported. That was followed by the publication backtracking on that recommendation, saying they “can’t recommend” the device until Apple addresses the antenna issues with a free fix -- “after also noting that applying a piece of tape solves the signal attenuation issues it found in testing,” notes AppleInsider.
"Well this is ironic," John Paczkowski writes in his Digital Daily blog. "iPhone 4 is hands-down the best smartphone available today, but Consumer Reports advises against buying it."
Consumer Reports Ranks iPhone 4 as Best Smartphone Available. End of story. iPhone 4 critics and morons need to be quiet now and talk about something else.
XMAN, 17 Jul 2010Troy.... do you live on a remote island or in a cave ... iphone are not 10 years ahead off any... moreAgreed. With the release of Android 2.1, running on the Samsung Galaxy S, the iphone will be trying to keep up.
The Galaxy S also has full file transfer via bluetooth without the need for any third party apps. Even the retina display is nothing groundbreaking. Galaxy S has super amoled.
Troy, 17 Jul 2010Nicely said, Totally agree with you 100% Once you go iphone you will never go back. It's a... moreTroy.... do you live on a remote island or in a cave ... iphone are not 10 years ahead off anyone .. they are behind i do not buy your bull i tried the latest iphone 4 one week was enough for me boring .. if you go Android .. you will never get another iphone ... snap out of the apple trance.. steve the hypnotist jobs sure has you under his spell....
poor signal on the iphone is not a little fault.
what's the point of having any phone if the signal is poor? apple need a proper solution to this problem.
handing out free cases? what a stupid idea. why ruin the looks of the phone with a case?
Troy, 17 Jul 2010Nicely said, Totally agree with you 100% Once you go iphone you will never go back.
It's a... more"It's awesome and it will take decades for other h/sets to match that of the iphone."
yea that makes sense because the gyroscope and the fancy name for pixels are so difficult to achieve.
oh and apple leads in terms of camera quality, mp count, bluetooth connectivity, usb mass storage, tv out, usb otg, multitasking, phone design, supreme antennae... dont they?