Asus phones may be ok in the beginning but because they mess with the OS and UI so much that the problems will keep coming. Every update will bring more problems. Look on the Asus forum and you will see that updates break cameras, charging, etc... Asus will refuse to fix it blaming the users instead!
Asus is veeeery bad in terms of support, very delayed and buggy updates. And they tend to abandon their phones without updates. Not cool.
What? You've gota be kidding. ZenFone isn't dead? And Euro500? Who in their right mind would touch it? As if every x-ZenFone user like me don't already know how bad their customer service is. Not to mention endless issues with ZenFone handsets. Good luck Europeans.
Asus phones are rubbish! Go read the Zenfone forums if you do not believe me! Asus never have any solutions to any problems except to bring it into a service centre. Every updates brings more problems to the phone and they have the nerve to blame the users.
AnonD-700701, 22 Sep 2017sorry to disappoint you but that 500 Euro is just for sd630 , only asian market get sd660 , so... moreWhat?!? 500EURO for SD630 variant? In Malaysia, SD630 variant only costs 420EURO (RM2099) and the price for SD660 will be estimately around 480EURO (RM2499). Come to Malaysia for lower price :D
Anonymous, 22 Sep 2017Yeah it is bad choice from ASUS putting the SD 630 variant for the most market. I heard only I... moreI saw a review and Camera focus was awful and they mentioned it not dual pixel AF as asus promote , check Btekt review maybe after software update they will fix it but for 500 Euro it's hard to recommend it
AnonD-692005, 22 Sep 2017The price maybe far higher on SD660 compared with SD630 variant since there's some difference ... moresorry to disappoint you but that 500 Euro is just for sd630 , only asian market get sd660 , so 500 euro overpriced for just sd630 and by the way check review on UK websites , the camera focus is just the worst things ,it can't have that dual pixels AF that Asus promoted just like I told you before , it's the lens that support that but it's not implemented there that why the focus is so slow even with OIS the video at 1080 60fps is still shaky
Anonymous, 22 Sep 2017Yeah it is bad choice from ASUS putting the SD 630 variant for the most market. I heard only I... moreThat's true, Zenfone 3 Zoom maybe better than Zenfone 4 with SD630 version since there's no big different between SD630 with SD625. Improved RAM management which supports LPDDR4 type, and just little enhaned speed and features on the chipsets. And yeah, just wait for the review of Zenfone 4.
AnonD-700701, 22 Sep 2017if that was true , then it should be better and perfect with sd660 variant but The price seems... moreYeah it is bad choice from ASUS putting the SD 630 variant for the most market. I heard only Indonesia get the Snapdragon 660 on South East Asia for now, Malaysia and Philippines (even India too) get the Snapdragon 630 version.
Well, Cortex A53 on Snapdragon 630 may give you more battery life comparing Kyro 260 core on Snapdragon 660 which is Perform based CPU core but still is not like Zenfone 3 Zoom that you get the 5000 mah battery for massive battery life.
So IMO, I think Zenfone 3 Zoom is more worthed than Zenfone 4 SD 630 version. But may we look the review first of Zenfone 4.
AnonD-700701, 22 Sep 2017if that was true , then it should be better and perfect with sd660 variant but The price seems... moreThe price maybe far higher on SD660 compared with SD630 variant since there's some difference features between SD630 and SD660 variant. Maybe around 500 EURO for SD660 variant. But it's still reasonable price for 'premium mid-range' phones.
AnonD-692005, 21 Sep 2017ZF4 has Dual Pixel PDAF. Watch it on YouTube which named "Zenfone 4 Design Story", the video m... moreif that was true , then it should be better and perfect with sd660 variant but The price seems higher in UK £449.99 for just sd630
AnonD-700701, 20 Sep 2017I agreed with you about the OIS but compare to most needed thing is AF features rather than OI... moreZF4 has Dual Pixel PDAF. Watch it on YouTube which named "Zenfone 4 Design Story", the video mentioned that the phone has Dual Pixel PDAF. So it's true, combination of Dual Pixel PDAF with OIS would be greater than your X4 I think...
AnonD-692005, 19 Sep 2017Dual Pixel AF is nothing without OIS. Zenfone 4 also uses Dual Pixel AF and works together wit... moreI agreed with you about the OIS but compare to most needed thing is AF features rather than OIS ,nowadays SD630 have EIS 3.0 which 60% of OIS so it's enough , and who told you that ZF4 has dual pixels AF , it's mentioned that sony lens support it but not included , I'm the one who should asked you that question claiming that ZF4 comes with DP AF alongside with OIS even the both devices not launched yet globally
for my perspective , I did alot of search in all categories , and that was my opinion that moto x4 is better that zf4 ( for alot reasons price , stock android ...) despite that there are some similarities
AnonD-700701, 16 Sep 2017sorry bro , but I already know what ZP4 , you get wowed by primary cam but you Forget to compa... moreDual Pixel AF is nothing without OIS. Zenfone 4 also uses Dual Pixel AF and works together with OIS. Do you really have X4 and ZF4 on your hands? Or you just compared it based on specs you read anywhere?