Worked, 05 Apr 2010I tried using my friend's Blackberry Bold 9700, inspired by the locusts of people swarming on... more1) Keyboard size is subjective to personal preference. I not only have large hands, but have chubby thumbs and the 8520 I own don't bother me, don't see how the Bold can be "too tiny". But if size does matter, then the Bold 9000 is perfect.
2) I had no trouble keeping the 9000 in my jeans pocket. Although most phones these days are thick, so the 9700 is pretty average for a smartphone.
3) Sure the BB OS has a learning curve, not as simple as, say, the iPhone. But definitely not too complex. But, that's why they say: Don't buy a phone smarter than you.
4) Almost every phone these days is centered on or at least leans towards social networks (FB, Twitter, Myspace) and BB is no different. You may not use FB, that doesn't mean that no one else uses it either.
5) With the available RAM and processor, no way can the 9700 be laggy. Although, this could be due to having too many apps hogging up the memory and not closing them. The End button minimizes most apps. So learn how to use it first.
6) Font is easy to customize... don't see why anyone would complain about that.
7) In some countries BIS plans are the only plans for a BB,not an add-on to regular data plans. So this only matters if you have to have 2 separate types of plans. In my country, a BB plan costs the same as an iPhone plan or any other 3G data plan, so no paying extra.
"In truth this phone is a money making machine for blackberry and the mobile network operators and will burn your money"... all phones are the same.
8) Never had any issues with SMS, BUT I did have 2 truncated emails and that did piss me off, so... ok.
9) Nope. No constant attention unless installing and uninstalling apps. Same as most phones.***
10) I did a quick job involving emails between me and my dad's boss over my BB (8520) and his BB (8310)and we didn't have any issues. We finnished in less than an hour. no phone calls necessary. So, don't see how emailing "takes too long". It depends on coverage as do calls and texts.
One thing about the "constant attention" to the software... it doesn't need it but RIM did screw up by not letting us install apps on MicroSD cards. They messed up the memory management which is why I said if too many apps are installed it will loose speed. But that's when it gets down to like 10mb out of 130mb of free memory. I agree BB isn't an "App" phone but more a "messaging" phone. If you want cool apps, there's iPhone 3GS and Android for that. If you don't know how to use it (before or after buying it) don't say it sucks. That's like getting mad that the hot coffee burned your mouth when you know it's hot. Learn to use something BEFORE complaining. I'm not saying BB are the best or perfect phones. But they are good and very stable. Symbian, WinMo are the same. Even iPhones lag or freeze, not as much though.
1) I don't have tiny hands, but I did have to get used to it.
2) You can change the font size and I would advise you to choose a font in bold.
3) Yes I did do a lot of research before I bought this device, including checking it out in the store before I ordered it.
4) I paid 60 euro for this phone and for 12 months it will be 47 euro * 12 = 564 euro (including BIS and 330 minutes or 660 sms).
I guess it's kind of personal what you think of this device, but I'm still very happy with it.
Anonymous, 05 Apr 2010If users need an iphone as well as a blackberry bold then will they have a busy life trying to... moreLooking at my friend's phone, Marcia probably wouldn't have trouble if she has really tiny hands.
In fact, for the average user or even a user with small hands the tiny keys are questionable and fiddly. But also, there are the other points I mentioned which are key things anyone doing research would want to know because you don't want to buy a device just because locusts of people have these devices without first doing your research.
blackberrian, 05 Apr 2010to rilakuma n worked..
i really dont have any idea n clueless about what were both of u cla... moreIf users need an iphone as well as a blackberry bold then will they have a busy life trying to keep up with the software updates and time lags.
The bigger picture is that the Blackberry Bold costs £1000+ in accumulated bills and downloads over an 18 month contact (and in that time you can buy two tv sets or atleast 3 PSPs) and the average wage in UK is probably £12,000 so the manufacturers need to listen since they are making large profits on them.
If the Blackberry Bold has design faults like small qwerty keys (which gsmarena has remarked on in its review) then that needs to be highlighted for prospective buyers!
People do do the research I think but its hard when the phones are too complex. I think the phones are too blame, don't you? I can't see how blackberrian, for example, you can describe this as "the best" device and big it up without backing up your points. It isn't and you need to open up your mind. They're not little faults - its basic key points about manufacturing phones.
see our friend here - marcia said that she(i guess u r female rite),is more than happy with her BB..clearly that she has more than one smartfones so that she quickly learn about it..all u need is patient n has the desire to learn new thing..make a good research..makes urself knowledgeable..kudos to u MARCIA!!
to rilakuma n worked..
i really dont have any idea n clueless about what were both of u claims bad thing about bold 2 aka onyx,were really true or just a conspiracy to downside BB especially this killer machine(said to be the best BB device so far - n it is!!)..
personally,i dont have this device yet..BUT,i am really loves this machine n will get it in no time..but as far as i have the BB curve 8520 aka gemini,which to me is one of the great device along with my iphone 3g..so,i stick with my gemini..but the desire to have the bold2 will not dead..
i dont u/stand y there are still a few pple who so called an "owner" of the onyx still complains about their devices..i think it shouldn't have any problem coz to me its perfect..but,as we all knows nothing in this world is perfect..including ourselves..so,i can accept that when the device has a minor problem about this,about that..but when pple kept complaining about some irrelevant points,which to me is so damn ridiculous i really cant accept it..coz my gemini which is not great when compared to this KILLER machine works really well to me!! n i expect that this device (bold2) which has more powerful spec than gemini will works more awesome than any other BB n other devices from other companies as well!! so,it makes me think like this :
1)do u really have this device?
2)do u know how to use it?
3)do u u/stand what is TECHNOLOGY?do u know what is smartfone really is?
4)did u bought an ORIGINAL device with WARRANTY?? or u just bought a faulty/2nd hand device with/without warranty!
5)or maybe u just buy the FAKE LOOK ALIKES one, that made by cheap china phone maker that duplicated a great n famous smartfone like iphone,BB,nokia E & N series n many more that look like the REAL one but without the 3G n wifi,but can put dual sims n so on??
before u buy anything (but in this case,smartfone).. plzz learn how it works first..learn the technology,the OS,all about it b4 u spend ur fckg money to it!! make a good research..read any comments or hold them feel the device..if u just buy anything without knowing anything then it likes u burn ur money in the fire!..then when problem occur,u simply blaim the fone,the company but then i t is u,yes urself that supposed to be blamed..get a life dude..learn something b4 doing something..dont just buy that thing coz it is a "MUST"!!..or see other pple have u also want to have..yet,u have no idea what the F is all about..ok!
This is my first Blackberry and I really love this device. I've had different phones (SE, Samsung, Nokia, HTC Hero, LG) with all the different OS, but this one is very fast. Also the screen display is very crisp.
At first it took me some time to find my way in this device, but everything works great. To use BIS is for me only 1,90 euro more than just an internet plan, so that is not to much for push email and the use of ping.
I don't have any difficulties with using the keybord, you just have to get used to it. There are a lot of nice themes available to customize this device. I'm very happy.
red-tailed hawk, 05 Apr 2010Are sure u really use a BB 9700 dude ? Yea I think so. The last time I checked there isn't really other phones on the market anything else similar to Blackberry for me to be confused with. Unless of course if you are referring to the BlackBerry range itself, then yes I am quite sure I paid for a price of a Bold 9700 from the telco.
Blackberry wasnt exactly my first choice either. I knew I needed BIS but I never thought WiFi is not functional on my Blackberry. Nor how weak the GPS is. I can stand under the open sky for 1 hour and I doubt I will ever receive anything. Blackberry maps wasnt preloaded on my phone either.
Blackberry Desktop Manager is not user friendly. Google 'Blackberry Desktop Manager not responding' and you will see the repeated results. I still get that message after trying to sync for the first time.
Although I would say the other features such as the autofocus and how fast it turns on is a good feature but these features hardly made up for all the trouble I had to put up with.
I tried using my friend's Blackberry Bold 9700, inspired by the locusts of people swarming on to the bandwagon of buying a "smartphone" - a "blackberry".
My view with these phones is they have forsaken simplicity and overlooked basic points about phones (e.g. microphones, speakers and simplicity with making alls).
Looking at my friend's phone, I have a number of issues with the bold 9700:
1) Incredibly tiny qwerty buttons so it's fiddly for people with large hands to type an sms without hitting the adjacent buttons and having to delete. They are so tiny it is I believe a design fault.
2) Can't fit phone into your pocket without it jutting out so not very mobile.
3) Incredibly complex in terms of usage, flash applications and downloading. Not worth buying one of these phones if you can't get it in 3 seconds. You will have to keep asking lots of questions and still not understand the logic of it.
4) Facebook comes as a default application on the menu. Excuse me? That joke of a social networking site?? Since when did that site become so essential to the modern world it comes as standard on a smart phone?? Dumb world.
5) It takes ages to get anything done on this with time lags and connection delays whenever you want to call a function up.
6) When you try to make calls, the dialled numbers come up at such a small font size it is unreadable. I'm talking font size 3 or something. It is ridiculous.
7) You need to pay extra specifically for Blackberry internet service - in addition to your price plan with your mobile network operator.
In truth this phone is a money making machine for blackberry and the mobile network operators and will burn your money.
8) Long text messages from this phone can appear in a truncated (...) format on other phones. Why does blackberry have to deviate from industry standard practice of 160 characters per SMS??
9) It needs constant software attention.
10) The only good thing about it (receiving and writing emails) probably doesn't work out as economical when you think about the time it takes up, the distraction, and the fact that if you are a businessman/woman you will probably have a laptop or something nearby anyway. In an emergency, people will CALL you and not send an email.
JRF, 05 Apr 2010If you are using BES then it could mean that the device will have difficulties connecting, for... morealso, i am subscribed with BES+ ( which combines BIS & BES).
in addition to work settings , i can also set my personal mails.....
so i don't have to worry about the work settings..:)
in case in future if i want to connect to my work server, then this package will help///:)
now i am using it as personal usage...
JRF, 05 Apr 2010If you are using BES then it could mean that the device will have difficulties connecting, for... moreThanks dear for your advise, actually i can access my emails. everything is fine...:)
it seems , this how it is done in my country....:)
JRF, 05 Apr 2010If you are using BES then it could mean that the device will have difficulties connecting, for... moreDear,,, i really appreciate your concern & advise...:)
Yea,,, i can access:
1)- emails: Hotmail & Gmail
2)- MSN messenger & Google Talk
3)- Google Maps
4)- didn't try the BB Messenger. (But since the above is working so no doubt it will work... :) )
5) - when browsing the lock icon which appears on the top right is unlock ( not locked with red color)
i asked my provider also about the logo instability, & confirmed me it is normal i am not going to loss the BB service if disappear....:) (Thanks God)
Only i have 2 issues:
1) - i am using BES+ plan ( as per country offer & service) but when i go to black berry.com from my bold and try to click on emails: windows live, i receive the following message:
(The desktop browser is not supported; please use this site from your blackberry device)
Very strange, i am already accessing through BB!!!!
2)_ in the browser option and under the browser, I have only 2 options:
- The hotspot browser (Wi-Fi)
- My operator browser
There is no Blackberry browser!!!!!????
Where it is????...hehehe
Rilakuma, 04 Apr 2010I had Bold 9700 for 2 days and I am disliking it. Everybody says its the best phone they ever... moreYep, worst choices are made when you don't investigate properly meaning when you buy something you know nothing about. Everyone knows (if not, they ask) that Blackberry needs BIS. And its not free for other phones because you need data plans no matter which phone you get. Android, WinMo, Symbian and Apple OS's need data plans to work. BIS is a data plan exclusively for Blackberry. So its really just a matter of choice of which plan you prefer. Never buy something you know nothing about, it'll just make you feel bad.
BB, 04 Apr 2010Dear,,, i really appreciate your concern & advise...:)
Yea,,, i can access:
1)- emails... moreIf you are using BES then it could mean that the device will have difficulties connecting, for security reasons. BES is usually for companies that hand Blackberry devices to their employees and have a ton of security settings made by the company itself.
For now, I guess check your browser settings, open the browser and press menu. Select Options>Browser config. Make sure it says Browser: Internet Browser and Browser Identification: Blackberry. Save any changes. Then open General settings and set Default Browser to Internet Browser. That's really all. If BES is blocking certain sites or the internet, then you might have to just leave it like that.
I bought one last week, Sad things is the phone have flash problem. When I take photo with flash, the unit will blackout. I tought it was battery problem, then I get the replcement from the store and try out. But still same problem. The shop ask me to try the another new unit...BAD LUCK, still same problem..At the end... I get my money back but, I lose couple of hundred...lesson learn here, DONT BUY EXPENSIVE PHONE.
I had Bold 9700 for 2 days and I am disliking it. Everybody says its the best phone they ever had but I beg to differ.
1. The trackpad is hard to use, its either too sensitive or not sensitive at all. Take your pick. The buttons are small making typing very hard even for my girly fingers.
2. The wifi is so hard to use. I connected to the wifi in my home but I cant even surf the net. I can ping using the blackberry, which shows the wifi in my house is working and the browser is just crappy.
3. BIS is really a waste of money. What do you do when you want Google Maps? BIS. What do you want to do when you want to use MSN Live Messenger? BIS. Practically everything is BIS. Seriously I dont want to pay extra to service providers to get something I can get for free on other phones.
4. The GPS. What is the point of having a GPS when there isnt any software for blackberry out there? Dear RIM, there are users around the world besides USA, right now there is only GARMIN which os available for US users only.
5. The BlackBerry Manager gets hanged everything I try to sync.
6. The bluetooth is equally rubbish. I can use my blakcberry to send files to my computer but I cannot receive files, although I have tried all the methods, pairing it, listening to it, and everything. Must I use the USB cable everything I want to send a little thing?
Getting a blackberry is the worst choice I have ever made.