Overpriced Green Phone. The phone design looks like a 10 years old android phone. I would rather buy a refurbished phone than this.
xkonstantin, 14 Jan 2021So i get the concept of this whole thing, but they could put a better chip here. 360$ is reall... moreI'll buy it because Fairphone provides 5 year tech support, replaceable parts, and FP 3 has official /e/ and LineageOS support. That's basically all I need from the phone: long software support period, parts availability and custom OS with sources.
These aspects are almost never gets mentioned in the reviews.
So i get the concept of this whole thing, but they could put a better chip here. 360$ is really a lot of money for a phone with these specs. For comparison there is the redmi 7 for less than 100$ and the same specs. Now don't get me wrong, the concept is really good, but it could be a lot better
So many bizarre arguments/discussions on this thread, when we are all on the same planet.
1. If your ethical/moral focus is just the environment, then buying a second hand phone is the least damaging thing you can do (assuming the person you buy it from doesn't use the money to buy a new one).
2. If your ethical/moral focus is worker rights, mining conditions and environment then this is a good phone.
3. Telling people that they aren't Fairphones client base, doesn't help them understand the ethos of the company and what they are trying to do. It just alienates its current client base and polarizes the discussion.
4. Don't hate all plastic, stating the phone has plastic in it is irrelevant. It depends how that plastic is made and what happens after its useful life. It also depends on the recycling facilities in your country. Making the phone out of a lightweight metal such as aluminium or magnesium (like macs) would be no better given the high energy cost for mining, extraction and refining. Random fact, synthetic plastic helped reduce the ivory trade, without it we could have killed off elephants and rhinos. It was invented as an alternative to ivory pool and billiard balls.
Fairphone tries to tackle the following:
1. Worker rights
2. Resource extraction and supply chain - Many mines have poor working conditions and are run by militia or cartels.
3. Improve the product lifecycle and longevity - By ensuring the product can be easily upgraded or repaired, you reduce your impact on the environment, since you don't have to buy a whole new device. When you get a flat tyre on a car you don't replace the whole car. The idea of buying something and throwing it away a year latter would have been very alien to our grandparents.
Anonymous, 27 Aug 2020That's because you are evil :)and yet, it's people like him who reach the elite status in our society
Anonymous, 23 Sep 2020Hi Did you get the answer? FM radio Hi, I do not have an answer yet, but I think it is very unlikely this will come with FM radio.
Grace, 30 Aug 2020Does anyone know if this phone will come with FM radio?Hi Did you get the answer? FM radio
Aeldor, 04 Sep 2020Not that I'm a Fairphone user but if you buy unethical items second hand, you contribute ... moreI'm not against phones with such features- I liked the LG V20. However, its mostly the hypocrisy of the manufacturer claiming to help and charging ostensibly high price, when their wages are not much higher and components for the phones are sold at a high price. They also manufacture in China, so very little difference there. In this aspect, it may be better in still offering a battery, however, I do not feel such a high price is justified.
Also, despite changing batteries being easier, people will still discard old devices.
Btw, having used a phone with removable, externally chargeable aftermaket batteries (of 12 000 mah, it was great) and after having replaced a few non replaceable batteries on other phones, I think the cell phone manufacturers are screwing with us badly. I don't see a reason why you should use adhesive instead of screws or clips. Just to promote consumerism? Or so people can't really switch off their phones so the intelligence agencies can eavesdrop on them? There are Faraday bags for this but who knows what twisted logic goes on in corporate heads..
Well done for the removable battery, Fairphone!
gorden, 01 Sep 2020This phone is also made in China.
Capitalism is not when you design cheap phones. It could b... moreNot that I'm a Fairphone user but if you buy unethical items second hand, you contribute to the circle of this type of items being produced. Yes, you don't feed the big sharks directly and it is a somewhat ethical choice. If you, however, buy something alternative, you contribute to changing reality in this direction. (What you called the feeling of being green).
Also, the Fairphone has a removable battery which in itself contributes to a change in the direction of degrowth - repairing an item and using it as long as you decide.
NeonHD, 01 Sep 2020Lol.
So you would rather buy today's cheap plastic phones with the flashy color patter... moreThis phone is also made in China.
Capitalism is not when you design cheap phones. It could be consumerism, but you didn't mention that.
Conditions in mines are still conditions in mines. Perhaps it no longer uses child labour though.
Slightly above average wage does not make the miners equal. The labour value is extremely low for the price being charged.
Adware is not when you buy a Xiaomi or Huawei phone.
This phone charges you much for a feeling of being green. Have you thought that you could save money and help the environment by buying a second hand phone?
Anonymous, 27 Aug 2020This ain’t it at all chief. Teracube is less insulting than this Hmmm, never heard of "Teraphone".
After doing a Google search, it looks like to be a pretty decent phone.
Alex, 29 Aug 2020You dont get it, do you? With this price I can buy 3 for 150, one much better now, one much mu... moreNo. YOU, my friend, don't get it. Do you?
When you give your money to greedy smartphone companies like Apple Samsung and Xiaomi, you are fueling capitalism. And capitalism is the fuel for every sort of horrible thing on this earth, including destroying the environment and fueling more greediness.
When you give your money to this company, your money is being put to good practical use. You can just sit back and not worry that your money is being wasted to harm the environment or to fund useless business ventures. But clearly you probably never worry about such things.
Fairphone could give two sh!ts less about you.
Alex, 29 Aug 2020Why pay 470 plus new parts for a phone that looks like it came straight from 2015, both in loo... moreLol.
So you would rather buy today's cheap plastic phones with the flashy color patterns and those curvy asf corners? And with one giant big a$s notch??
Sure, have fun with your play toy. This phone is for people who don't care about looks.
They are probably trying to convey with this design that looks shouldn't matter.
gorden, 31 Aug 2020Buying this does not make you green. The materials are more plastic, such as the frame, which ... moreOkay, then don't buy this phone. Maybe you should read more about what Fairphone (the company) stands for.
Like Wolfpack said, the people at Fairphone would probably encourage you to buy previous flagships, if that's what you want to do.
gorden, 31 Aug 2020Buying this does not make you green. The materials are more plastic, such as the frame, which ... moreBuying a smartphone will never make you "green", nor do they claim that is the case. If you want to use an older flagship or just hold on to your existing phone, then I think the people at Fairphone will be quite happy to see you follow that line of thinking.
What they sell you is a new phone that will last you a while. Besides the repairability part, the module focused design probably makes it quite sturdy and the chipset will last you as long as you have it if you don't demand the best in mobile gaming graphics.