Rafe Firmani, 06 May 2017Rockstar,
Just saw on news feed regarding Red color U 11.
Magnificent looking phone BUT, n... moreRafe,
Yeah I saw that too. DOES look nice. Yeah I dunno if they will ever bring Classic BoomSound back, though what we saw today was just an UNOFFICIAL render, so there is still SOME hope, but I'm not holding my breath. lol I'm still happy that at least they didn't "pull a Samsung" and only give the phone one speaker. Screw THAT! lol
Yeah, NO! A single speaker setup would be AWFUL Rafe. Trust me! lol The Hi-Fi BoomSound setup isn't so bad. If you think about it, when you watch TV with a surround sound system (like the 5.1 system I have), the subwoofer aims the bass DOWN at the floor, while the treble (and SOME bass I think?) coming from the actual speakers faces you. So it's pretty similar to that really.
Yeah I know............ not happy about the 3.5mm jack being removed, and even less happy if the phone stays at 3000 mAh. Though if you check Phone Arena's site, they're claiming the U 11 will have a 4000 mAh battery! Oh God PLEASE be right Phone Arena!!! lol
The phone will also be IP 57 which means it can be submerged in water up 1 meter or 3-4 feet for up to 30 minutes. The only difference between it and the Samsung Galaxy S8's and Sony Xperia XZ Premium's IP 68 rating is really that they can go beyond 1 meter. But to me, that's (U 11) pretty much equal to what IP 68 can do. This will be the first HTC flagship to have this rating. The 10 is rated IP 53, which means it's "splash proof", which isn't much protection, but can handle rain at least so that's still something.
Oh the camera is like the one thing I'm NOT worried at all about. I'm sure it will be even better than the 10's, which is already great!
Yes they do! lol
RockStar2005, 05 May 2017Rafe,
Nice! lol Just make sure if you're checking on US eBay that they don't show Indonesi... moreRockstar,
Just saw on news feed regarding Red color U 11.
Magnificent looking phone BUT, now only come with slit bottom speaker grill. Gone forever the dual speakers.
Is it worse than htc 10? I dunno, maybe single speaker with decent quality is better than separating sub woofer and tweeter on 10. But looking at those tiny hole I'm pessimistic.
Gone the 3.5 mm jack, the battery stay 3,000 mAh. And bigger 5.5" phone, but thinner than 10.
Camera might be better with imx 362 sensor and f1.7 aperture.
Good luck, HTC needs a lot of it.
Rafe Firmani, 05 May 2017Rockstar,
I will put AKG K550 MK II on my short lists of choice headphone lol.
Nice! lol Just make sure if you're checking on US eBay that they don't show Indonesia as an exemption to send to. The link I sent you for the K550 MK II does not, so you should have no problem ordering from them. I myself have sold headphones (etc) to people internationally several times in the past as well.
Yeah Sense is nice. I used Nova Launcher for years but now am trying out Sense and liking it.
Yeah I had called HTC's U.S. "Special Projects Team" (based in Colombia, they are one level ABOVE Customer Service) a few months ago regarding a question on the DAC (Digital to Analog Converter, sound chip) of the 10's audio codec. Namely, was it using the HTC custom-made (and superior) one, or the Qualcomm Aqstic one. A codec is supporting software for the DAC. They investigated and the one lady got back to me and said the 10 uses the the custom-made one first unless a particular app can't use it. Not the clearest answer, but whatever. I guess it doesn't matter b/c the phone sounds INCREDIBLE anyway. During the back and forth with her, I straight up told her that HTC needs to stop trying to Apple and Samsung (i.e. putting the physical home "pad" on the front instead of a virtual home button like the M8 has) and start being HTC again! Also mentioned that they should go back to Classic BoomSound where both speakers are in front vs. Hi-Fi BoomSound which is the style 10 has for the speakers. She said "Yeah we get A LOT of people saying that." lol But from what I can see, the U 11 is gonna be the same way. Sux if it is cuz most ppl prefer Classic BoomSound. HTC should (and hopefully WILL) listen to its customers.
RockStar2005, 05 May 2017
Haha ok. I just figured I'd give you some info about it then let you decide. Well ... moreRockstar,
I will put AKG K550 MK II on my short lists of choice headphone lol.
Regarding sense, I watch the progress since my HTC Hero, first with sense UI. I even still keep it's demo video, pretty cool and nostalgic. You can see the wipers animation cleaning the rain (on weather apps), clock choices widget apps, there I fell in love with Sense.
After that came the cool rotating homescreen with sense 3.0 on Desire S, weather apps, where the cloud 3D effect was breathtaking, seriously lol. And photo gallery app with scrolling upside down animation.. That's just about the peak of high time of sense UI.
After htc sensation, one X and m7, htc tried to de-sense, I lost some eye candy but I still can have a new feature like navigation button arrangement, instead of classic 3 button (back, home, recent apps) you can add screen off button which very useful since htc can only do double tap to wake and not to sleep like LG.
On Sense 8, htc removed bloats (seriously?) and deleted double apps which google already have. And this where things has gone too far. Htc sense is the most fluid android sense out there and heck, if bloatware is the public enemy then samsung will go bankrupt with its lagwiz lol. And google apps is flat ugly.
I think htc lost it's identity in the process, and by choosing nexus or pixel way, they should put their deleted apps (music, clock, weather, etc) on playstore so give the people who loves them a choice. But they don't.
There's a lot of 3rd party apps out there try to mimicking sense. But their imitation aren't my taste, I want the genuine sense lol. Their clocks etc not as beautiful as htc sense.
Sometimes I do miss my old hero's sense.... The phone lays in my bedroom drawer, my first android with a cool chin :)
Rafe Firmani, 05 May 2017Rockstar,
I haven't decided to move with headphone YET, because like you said, I cannot go ... more
Haha ok. I just figured I'd give you some info about it then let you decide. Well whenever "YET" happens to come around, now you KNOW what to buy! lol (print out or save that post so you don't have to look for it later)
I honestly can't remember the HTC music app b/c when I had the M8 I was STILL using Poweramp even back then (been using it for probably 5 years now I'm guessing??). But that's cool. Glad you like it. Too bad the HTC 10 doesn't have it anymore, but I guess that's part of their attempt to remove "bloat". lol Poweramp is too dark?? Well there are other "skins" you can download that are probably brighter. I actually prefer the darker themes or skins because sometimes the white/bright ones can hurt my eyes. lol
Yeah I guess you have to with the 10! I got the new Alpha 704 "beta" version of Poweramp. It's a bit buggy with the album covers (doesn't always "remember" to switch when you change artists or albums), but it has a feature the official one doesn't which I love............you can enable 1% volume increments so instead of the volume shifting 5-7% everytime you push the up or down volume button, it just goes in 1% increments, which helps you get that PERFECT volume, which I absolutely LOVE, especially when listening on headphones. You can Google it if interested. The dev for Poweramp said he'll prob have the official version out (v3) by the end of this year. Hopefully he does so ON TIME! lol Already been a while since v2 was deployed (a couple years I'm guessing?).
RockStar2005, 04 May 2017
You're very welcome! Yeah if you ever have any questions on that stuff let me know... moreRockstar,
I haven't decided to move with headphone YET, because like you said, I cannot go back to earphone again lol.
Earphones are good as long I don't try the headphone lol.
I LOVE htc music app. It's user interface the most beautiful and playlists is neat and very user friendly
I know about poweramp, it's very good in setting amplifier, but HTC is already good without you need to set anything. But I don't like its interface, too dark...
But I do it with htc 10, i choose poweramp because no htc music there. I still get it on my harman/kardon m8.
Rafe Firmani, 04 May 2017Rockstar,
It's 7.00 pm here, just get back from work and lay in my bed when writing this l... more
You're very welcome! Yeah if you ever have any questions on that stuff let me know. Yes it is a software thing, correct. Haha........the AKG K550 or K551 will WIPE THE FLOOR with any Beats headphones or earphones. THAT'S a promise! lol You should just check on eBay or Amazon etc and see if you can find a good deal on one. You said you buy One phones from the U.S., so you should consider checking US eBay and Amazon too then perhaps, if interested. I actually just took a quick look now, and I found 2 sellers on eBay who are willing to ship those 2 headphones (in brand new condition) to Indonesia. See links below, again, if interested. Go to US eBay and search for "AKG K550 MK II". Choose "New" on left side filter menu. Then look for seller "damannn20" who's selling it for $126.99. Then open up another tab and do same thing (make sure to choose New again) but this time search for "AKG K551". Look for seller "techronics-store" who's selling black/silver K551 for $169.95. Both sellers looks reputable to me.
Note: The K550 and K551 headphones sound like 99% the same, so let's just say they sound 100% the same. lol Also, the difference between the K550 and K550 MK II is really only the model name. The K550 was the U.S. version, while the K550 MK II was the UK/British version. I prefer the K550 MK II only because I like how the model name is written vertically on the side earcups vs. horizontally (the eBay pic shows it incorrectly. Google "AKG K550 MK II" for actual look.). Very minor thing. The difference b/t the K550 and K551 is that the K551 costs more but has a shorter cable (4 feet vs. 10 feet) + its cable has an in-line remote & microphone in it for calls, pause/play, volume adjustment, etc. But I think the K550 MK II looks SLIGHTLY cooler plus you can simply "twisty tie" the longer 10-foot cable.
Oh I see. Ok. Kinda like how people do it here in a party. lol
Yeah they got rid of that stuff so they could say there's less bloatware. lol You can just get a a third-party Gallery app or else a File Manager app and just go to the "Pictures" folder in it, which is what I do on my 10. For music............you should seriously consider Poweramp. It's the ONLY music app I've been using for years now, even though I'm constantly trying out other ones. But they never quite hit the mark the way Poweramp does. Either they don't sound as good or are not user-friendly. You should get Poweramp for both phones! lol (But you only have to pay for it once!) There's just some magical about how music sounds when played via Poweramp. It makes it sound better somehow than other apps.
Yeah like my cousin's wife got a Blackberry and it didn't have a Gallery app on it either so also no photo editing software. She didn't like that cuz she constantly likes to edit photos I guess. For me I don't care cuz I rarely do edits on pics and if I do I can just send it to my PC and do it from there if I actually need to, which is like NEVER. lol
RockStar2005, 04 May 2017Rafe,
Yeah about........ it's 8:55PM now........STILL Wednesday here! lol
Oh I see, ok... moreRockstar,
It's 7.00 pm here, just get back from work and lay in my bed when writing this lol.
Thanks for your thorough explanation about the audio, you have sound knowledge in that dept.
I think it's a software, just like beats audio on m7,
I still have a pair of beats from it lol.
In my office we listen to music collectively, not private.. So we can listen together. if the songs pick suck, then all the people would suffer together lol.
One thing I miss from HTC m8 is sense 7 where you still have htc music player, htc gallery, etc which missing on htc 10.
Htc try to de-sense its UI and make it stock android. I know a lot people praise it, but not me.
Rafe Firmani, 04 May 2017Hi Rockstar,
It's 7.45 AM here and I guess it's late evening in chichago :)
About Sprint, ... moreRafe,
Yeah about........ it's 8:55PM now........STILL Wednesday here! lol
Oh I see, ok. Didn't know Sprint had locked GSM capabilities! Sux they don't also offer 4G in your country, but wait so you can still get 4G LTE if you use the CDMA operator though?? Not sure I understand.
Yeah that's good that Verizon's phones are easy for you though at least.
Ok......if you MAINLY listen to music via the speakers, then yeah I'd prob go with M8 too. Usually ppl who listen at work do so on earphones or headphones, but that's cool you don't have to do that. That's cool about the Hi-Res headphones. Yes that is correct.......no Hi-Res earphones with my 10. It seems like we never get the "cool extra bonus stuff" that other countries do. At least not ALL the time. Yes, I got the HTC 10 for example but NOT Hi-Res earphones. To be honest with you I'd never use them anyway cuz I prefer headphones. I feel like you get better sound from them, but I've never tried really pricey ones though. Only pricey headphones. My AKG K551s are not that pricey though (about $170 now though I paid $200 for mine months ago), yet I found they sound better than some $300-$400 headphones I've pitted them against! If you ever get headphones, and want INCREDIBLE quality for not too much money, get the AKG K550 or K551. You may never go back to earphones again. LOL
Yeah when I had the rooted M8 with that H/K mod in it, I used Clari-Fi like 100% of the time. It definitely made the music sound better. My Sony phones had a feature like that too called DSEE HX. It essentially did the same thing.........it "guessed" how the mp3 song would sound if it were a CD-Quality of Hi-Res file, and made "intelligent choices" as how to render it. But it only works on mp3s as usually CDQ and Hi-Res files already sound better. But that's more to do with the fact that those other 2 (especially Hi-Res) always get BETTER masters than the mp3 versions get vs. the higher resolution. Not a lot of people know (or believe) that. But it's the truth. I've read studies and did my own blind ABX tests so I know it's true. Yeah I believe that too........the H/K mod made my regular M8 sound better and I'm pretty sure louder too, especially after reading what you just said.
Wow. You had a nice little SIDE business goin' on there it sounds like! lol Yeah I mean I didn't even KNOW that HTC made red One series phones before the 10. News to me! Well the enthusiasm going down for HTC is because of Samsung's rise but also because HTC doesn't do enough to ADVERTISE for itself anymore. I remember the M8 having MULTIPLE commercials on TV here. I haven't seen ANY ads for the M9 and definitely 10 on TV here AT ALL. People aren't gonna buy what they don't know, so when ppl see Samsung ads which are on all the time, of course they're gonna go with Samsung. It sux because I love HTC and Sony's phones THE MOST but they both are bad about marketing their phones here. HTC at least still has SOME carrier involvement. Sony cut all ties with the carriers here after the Z3, and now they not surprisingly sell LESS phones than they were before they stupidly did that.
On the 10 you mean? I dunno...........I don't even keep track anymore. It does go VERY fast though IMO. I guess Google is trying to use something different to replace QC, which is why the S8 is only QC 2.0 compatible and U 11 they say only 3.0, even though the 835 chip IS QC 4.0 compatible. Blahh whatever. QC 3.0 is just FINE for me! lol
RockStar2005, 03 May 2017Rafe,
Oh ok. So you went from Red to Grey/Black. Nice! Yeah those updates made a differenc... moreHi Rockstar,
It's 7.45 AM here and I guess it's late evening in chichago :)
About Sprint, they have GSM capabilities but locked, so people here unlocked its GSM capability, and we can use it with Indonesian sim cards, but its LTE freq doesn't match, so we are limited to 3G only.
We can get LTE using indonesian cdma operator tho. The GSM LTE freq here is 900/1800.
On the other hand, Verizon handsets are world phone, we don't need to unlock it, just insert the GSM or cdma SIM Card and voila, the signal is there :)
But to use tethering feature you need to root the phone.
I listening to music thru external speakers A LOT, so the m8 wins over HTC 10 no question (I owned them both). However while using earphones, I agree with you that HTC10 have advantages over M8. I have hi-res earphone in the 10 box, and it delivers great sound. I heard US version don't have hi-res earphone in the package?
The great feature of H/K m8 is Clari-Fi, it essentially restore the quality of compressed audio.The sound is crisp and every detail is clear. And H/K version have louder audio output than regular M8, I compared them side by side that's why I moved from RED verizon M8 (which colour i like most) to Sprint M8 h/k lol.
Yeah I sold m7 sprint RED everytime I can buy them. Essentially I emptied the market and buy every mint condition m7 RED available lol. Back then, HTC is quite popular and many use them, quite easy to sell them because RED is also RARE stuff. Now only few people using HTC flagship here in Indonesia and that trend is world wide that's why HTC is in trouble. People can list HTC10 camelia RED in OLX for days and it hasn't sold. The enthusiasm isn't there anymore.. :(
And oh, regarding the QC 3.0 I only manages to get 50% after 1 hour of charging. How is your experience?
Rafe Firmani, 03 May 2017Dear Rockstar,
Nice to know about your city, I'm sure it's beautiful at downtown, and the l... moreRafe,
Oh ok. So you went from Red to Grey/Black. Nice! Yeah those updates made a difference. lol When I compared the 10 to S7 and X Performance, pics I took of like blu-ray movie cases didn't come out as detailed as the other 2 phones' did. Like when I zoomed in on the cases the words were blurry, but were in focus on the other 2. But when I took similar pics on the 10 the 2nd time around (in January, after 2 of the 3 updates had been deployed), the detail was there which made me very happy.
That IS odd, because here the Verizon and Sprint phones are ONLY available as locked. HTC states their unlocked phones for the US are GSM network-based, which means AT&T and T-Mobile (I have T-Mobile). Verizon and Sprint are CDMA network-based, so it's different there. My assumption then is that in Indonesia you guys MUST run on CDMA then if you're using phones designated here for Verizon & Sprint. Interesting. What's more odd is that you're getting the "unlocked only" color choices on those phones for Verizon and Sprint, which always have LIMITED color options here. Very strange!! I really can't explain that one.
Interesting...............I would suggest though that you use the HTC 10 for music listening. The Harmon/Kardon (or H/K) M8 was great for 2014, but the 10's audio capabilities are FAR more advanced. Just see the article below. I'd compared my 10 to my $299 Oppo HA-2 premium amp/DAC device ( https://www.whathifi.com/oppo/ha-2/review ), and it matched if not outdid the HA-2 in both sound quality and volume. So I sold off my HA-2 and now just connect my headphones (AKG K551) DIRECTLY to the 10. The audio is THAT good on it, so seriously consider what I said.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-10-audio-testing-boomsound-evolved (If the U 11 DOESN'T have this level of sound quality or better, then I'm 100% NOT getting it! lol. See headphones section and parts in bold too.)
Then again, if you're ONLY listening from the speakers, then the H/K M8 MIGHT be better? Not sure. You should compare the speakers on both phones and see, or maybe you already did that? For headphone listening though, 100% for sure go with the 10. Funny you mention the H/K version. When I got the M8 3 years ago, it was the regular one, but I found out the only difference b/t that one and the H/K version (which was a Sprint only "exclusive" here, and I had T-Mobile) was with the software, NOT the hardware. So someone came up with a mod which if you root your phone, you could install to make the regular M8 an H/K version. So for the first (and last lol) time ever, I rooted my phone and installed that mod, and DID notice a difference in quality from the regular one. I was very happy with that phone for like 6-8 mos, then the Sony Xperia Z3 came out which was better so I upgraded. Now Sony's phones are only better on camera. For battery life and especially audio, they have fallen way behind HTC. HTC is even catching up on camera, especially since they switched from the Toshiba camera sensors (which Sony bought that business out from them) to the Sony ones........starting with the 10.
How did you get the extra units to sell?? lol Did you just buy them and resell them at a higher price there in your country? I see about Sprint and no LTE vs. Verizon having it. Yeah I switched to T-Mobile about 3 years ago (February 2014), and never looked back. They have grown SO quickly here and give you so much more value for what you pay for (pay less, get MORE) than Verizon did, so I have NO plans to ever go back to Verizon again. The reason why Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint are more competitive now with pricing and features has A LOT to do with T-Mobile, so people here should appreciate that.
Haha yeah I knew you didn't have Uh-Oh, so I guess it's more of a risk for you. Not sure how it will work if someone wants to put a case on it. Maybe HTC will offer "special cases" to people that are custom-made for the U 11? The newest leak indicates that the body may not be metal but perhaps either glass or else I'm HOPING a glass/metal hybrid. It says: "Fluid and reflective; designed to be quiet no more." The "quiet no more" part indicates they may be trying something new since the U Ultra DOES have a glass back, so hopefully if it's not metal it's metal/glass. I just hope if it is that it's shatterproof.
JOSHHH, 02 May 201750% in 30 minutes ! is that really quick charge 3 ???in my experience charging htc 10 with it's qc 3.0 charger, in around 60 minutes I get 50%
RockStar2005, 02 May 2017
Yeah Windy City. I actually live in a northwest suburb of Chicago, about 25-30 min... moreDear Rockstar,
Nice to know about your city, I'm sure it's beautiful at downtown, and the light is spectacular at night.
Regarding the color choices, I have different experience.. My first HTC 10 is red (sold it because camera is bad), and now is carbon grey. I found it the camera is totally better because of the 3 improvement update.. Luckily I havent given up on it lol.
It's the most complete package of HTC handset I ever owned.
Funny thing is, my HTC handsets are always from your country (sprint/verizon).
They're originally locked but the seller have them unlocked for sim card of Indonesia.
I'm still using HTC m8 sprint Harman/kardon, mostly for listening music in the office, it's stereo speakers is crisp and good enough.. While HTC10 is my daily driver for working.
reviously I had the RED m8 from Verizon, and RED m7 from Sprint.
And for the record, I manage to sell 7 units of RED m7 Sprint and got some profit from it lol.
The downside of Sprint is no LTE compability for use in my coutry, while verizon is locked the tether functionaity, I never use T-mobile handset :)
Move forward, I agree with you that U11 is better used without casing, since it comws with touch frame, but must be careful here because we don't have uh-oh protection :)
Rafe Firmani, 02 May 2017Hi Rockstar,
Okay so you're from wind city yeaah,, perhaps I cant survive there because chi... more
Yeah Windy City. I actually live in a northwest suburb of Chicago, about 25-30 min away, so I'm not actually in the city, but very close. Yeah it can get pretty cold here in the winter, but since I've lived in this general area all my life, I'm somewhat used to it I guess. Somewhat. lol But Chicago is so amazing (3rd largest city in the U.S.) that every time I go into the city I notice something new. The downtown area is spectacular. Definitely something to see at some point. I'd recommend coming in the summertime for you though. lol
Oh nice! Camellia Red looks very nice too. I didn't know they had Red ones for the previous One phones though? That's cool. I'm guessing you always buy unlocked then? Or did they well the previous phones in red locked there? Here we always get less color options if we buy locked (or "through the carrier"). The Topaz Gold HTC 10 I own now was only available if I bought unlocked, so I did. Only other phone I bought unlocked before this one was the Sony Xperia X Performance. Which was seemingly great but over time I realized the 10 was better so in January I sold my X Perf and got the 10 I have now.
Yeah I'm with you to a point on the size. I also dislike phablet phones, so I wasn't too thrilled to hear the U 11 would have a 5.5" screen. Depending on a few factors (definitely audio), I may or may not get it. But the problem is the TREND seems to be for flagships that they are getting bigger and bigger, so if I want to continue having flagships, then I may not have a choice? 5.5" isn't THAT bad I guess if you don't use a case. I used cases for years but last month or two I've been trying my 10 without the case. I like it better overall this way. As long as I don't "rush" when picking up my phone then I don't end up dropping it. Plus the backside is metal which doesn't damage easily and also I got Uh-Oh Protection which is nice. I guess we'll see what happens with the U 11 on May 16th!
Until then, see my post on Head-Fi (audio lovers site). It appears that a seemingly OFFICIAL leak of the back of the U 11 box has been posted. Doesn't show battery size, but everything else is pretty much there. Enjoy!
RockStar2005, 01 May 2017Rafe,
Indonesia eh? That's cool. I'm in the Chicago area myself, so probably even farther ... moreHi Rockstar,
Okay so you're from wind city yeaah,, perhaps I cant survive there because chill factor lol.
Never been to places with snow YET.
Anyway I own red htc 10 previously, also m8 and m7 red.
I think red HTC isn't a phone.. They're like jewellery so beautiful :)
Back to U11, I think htc 10 is better size for me, considering that htc phone has quite a bezel, so it would be to tall for my jeans pocket. But we'll see on May 16...
9ja, 02 May 2017Been using this beast for over a month.... Everything is perfect, very smooth UI and fast afte... more
Try turning OFF "Automatic Brightness" when outdoors and putting it to max brightness manually. When you turn AB off, the screen will be able to get brighter at max than when AB is on.
Been using this beast for over a month.... Everything is perfect, very smooth UI and fast after Naugot update.... Only downside about the 10 is poor outdoor visibility against Samsung s7.... HTC 10 software customisation is very stable compared to other OEM.... I'll wait for the HTC U11 to see if they improve the sunlight legibility.
Rafe Firmani, 01 May 2017Hi Rockstar,
I live in Indonesia, half way round the world from you. Since my city and NY h... moreRafe,
Indonesia eh? That's cool. I'm in the Chicago area myself, so probably even farther away than 12 hours from you.
That sux that the HTC division there closed down, but at least you have other sellers there who are still able to sell new HTC devices to people.
Oh NICE on Hong Kong trip! Yeah the U 11 is being announced on May 16 (so 2 weeks from tomorrow!) and I'm guessing will be available to purchase sometime in early June. I'm hoping my phone carrier (T-Mobile) will have it available to check out, or else Best Buy. But I'd only want to buy it unlocked cuz then you get more color choices (there will be FIVE color choices to choose from too if you get the unlocked version)! lol